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AY2017-18 KUMBB Recruiting Updated 2018-07-23
7 years 6 months ago - 5 years 9 months ago #14118
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
This Origin Post is updated throughout the year with the latest summary data for Kansas Men's Basketball recruiting as of the date shown in the Subject line.
For your easy reference, you can click here to see last season's recruiting thread.
REQUEST TO RCBers
In an effort to keep recruiting information and Q&As easily accessible, please consider posting your recruiting comments and questions for this recruiting season (2017-18) in this pinned thread.
Also, if you know of an error or omission, please let me know so I can correct it.
Thank you, RCBers!
ROCK CHALK!
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TRACKING AY2017-18 PLAYERS and AY2017-18 RECRUITS Committed/Signed and Offered
ACADEMIC YEAR 2017-18 SIGNING PERIODS FOR D1 MEN'S BASKETBALL --
Early Signing Period window: 2017-11-08 thru 11-15
Regular Signing Period window: 2018-04-11 thru 05-16
DEPARTING PLAYERS AFTER AY2017-18 ((S) Scholarship, (W) Walk-on)
GRADUATING SENIORS
G Devonté Graham (S)
G Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (S)
F Clay Young* (W)
NBA EARLY ENTRANTS (EEs)
G Malik Newman* (S) — announced leaving, hiring agent on 2018-04-04
G Lagerald Vick (S) — RETURNS FOR HIS SENIOR YEAR
C Udoka Azubuike (S) IS STAYING FOR HIS JUNIOR YEAR!
2018-04-22: NBA deadline to declare for the draft
2018-05-30: NCAA deadline to withdraw from draft and retain eligibility assuming no agent is hired. Date is ten days after the final day of the annual NBA Draft Combine, scheduled for May 16-20, 2018. NBA Key Dates 2017-18
TRANSFERING OUT
G Sam Cunliffe (S) [2] announced 2018-07-23
OTHER LOSSES
2018-01-20: Fr Billy Preston leaves to play in Europe instead of waiting for NCAA decision on his status. link
2018-04-11: Will Silvio De Sousa remain on the team after the federal indictment naming his guardian as recipient of $90,000 from James Gatto of adidas?
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RETURNING PLAYERS and AY2018-19 STATUS (by Class; (S)cholarship or (W)alk-on)
SENIORS
G Lagerald Vick (S)
JUNIORS
C Udoka Azubuike (S)
F Mitch Lightfoot (S)
F Dedric Lawson* (S) [1]
F James Sosinski (W) (unsure if he will be back after KUFB is over next year)
SOPHOMORES
F Silvio DeSousa (S) assuming he plays
F KJ Lawson* (S) [3]
G Marcus Garrett (S)
G Charlie Moore* (S) [4]
G Chris Teahan (W)
* Red-shirted one year.
[1] #33 in Rivals150 for 2015. Will sit out 2017-18, will have 2 years to play 2. Originally moved up a year to the 2015 recruiting class so he could play with his older brother KJ.
[2] #36 in Rivals150 for 2016. Will be eligible to play for KU after the end of the Fall 2017 semester. Will have 2 years of eligibility left after 2017-18, but can still redshirt a year to stay through AY2020-21. Per NCAA rules, his semester playing at ASU cost him one year of eligibility and his playing Spring 2018 at KU cost him his second year. If he does redshirt -- or sit out after transferring again to another program -- he will still have 2 years of eligibility left to play 2.
[3] #54 in Rivals150 for 2015. Will sit out 2017-18, will have 2 years to play 2, may get 3 for 3 if NCAA approves a 6th year due to medical redshirting his freshman year (was hurt in 10th game of the season at Memphis).
[4] #55 in Rivals150 for 2016. Reportedly is applying for hardship transfer status so he can play this fall (transferring to be closer to ill father), but getting it seems unlikely as it is questionable that Lawrence is close enough to Chicago for this to be approved. Assuming it is NOT granted, he will have 3 years to play 3 at KU.
SCHOLARSHIPS AVAILABLE
13 total scholarships allowed each AY
- 8 returning scholarship players (assumes Silvio is good to go).
-> 5 scholarships for AY2017-18, depending upon other EEs, transfers or other losses
∴ 1 scholarships available as of this update.
ACADEMIC YEAR 2017-18 RECRUITING SYNOPSIS
Sources: Rivals, 247Sports, ESPN, Scout and others; National Rank & Ratings used are Rivals.
SIGNED or COMMITTED
OFFERED (Multiple sources; where available, National Rank & Ratings are Rivals.)
The following list contains only recruits with a reported offer (Rivals, 247Sports, Scout, ESPN) from KANSAS
or a listing on JayhawkSlant's "Hoops Hot Board".
(NB: ! after position indicates recruit is listed on JayhawkSlant's “Hoops Hot Board”)FORMER RECRUITS (Rankings not updated once they are off KU's radar)
For your easy reference, you can click here to see last season's recruiting thread.
REQUEST TO RCBers
In an effort to keep recruiting information and Q&As easily accessible, please consider posting your recruiting comments and questions for this recruiting season (2017-18) in this pinned thread.
Also, if you know of an error or omission, please let me know so I can correct it.
Thank you, RCBers!
ROCK CHALK!
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TRACKING AY2017-18 PLAYERS and AY2017-18 RECRUITS Committed/Signed and Offered
ACADEMIC YEAR 2017-18 SIGNING PERIODS FOR D1 MEN'S BASKETBALL --
Early Signing Period window: 2017-11-08 thru 11-15
Regular Signing Period window: 2018-04-11 thru 05-16
DEPARTING PLAYERS AFTER AY2017-18 ((S) Scholarship, (W) Walk-on)
GRADUATING SENIORS
G Devonté Graham (S)
G Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (S)
F Clay Young* (W)
NBA EARLY ENTRANTS (EEs)
G Malik Newman* (S) — announced leaving, hiring agent on 2018-04-04
G Lagerald Vick (S) — RETURNS FOR HIS SENIOR YEAR
C Udoka Azubuike (S) IS STAYING FOR HIS JUNIOR YEAR!
2018-04-22: NBA deadline to declare for the draft
2018-05-30: NCAA deadline to withdraw from draft and retain eligibility assuming no agent is hired. Date is ten days after the final day of the annual NBA Draft Combine, scheduled for May 16-20, 2018. NBA Key Dates 2017-18
TRANSFERING OUT
G Sam Cunliffe (S) [2] announced 2018-07-23
OTHER LOSSES
2018-01-20: Fr Billy Preston leaves to play in Europe instead of waiting for NCAA decision on his status. link
2018-04-11: Will Silvio De Sousa remain on the team after the federal indictment naming his guardian as recipient of $90,000 from James Gatto of adidas?
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RETURNING PLAYERS and AY2018-19 STATUS (by Class; (S)cholarship or (W)alk-on)
SENIORS
G Lagerald Vick (S)
JUNIORS
C Udoka Azubuike (S)
F Mitch Lightfoot (S)
F Dedric Lawson* (S) [1]
F James Sosinski (W) (unsure if he will be back after KUFB is over next year)
SOPHOMORES
F Silvio DeSousa (S) assuming he plays
F KJ Lawson* (S) [3]
G Marcus Garrett (S)
G Charlie Moore* (S) [4]
G Chris Teahan (W)
* Red-shirted one year.
[1] #33 in Rivals150 for 2015. Will sit out 2017-18, will have 2 years to play 2. Originally moved up a year to the 2015 recruiting class so he could play with his older brother KJ.
[2] #36 in Rivals150 for 2016. Will be eligible to play for KU after the end of the Fall 2017 semester. Will have 2 years of eligibility left after 2017-18, but can still redshirt a year to stay through AY2020-21. Per NCAA rules, his semester playing at ASU cost him one year of eligibility and his playing Spring 2018 at KU cost him his second year. If he does redshirt -- or sit out after transferring again to another program -- he will still have 2 years of eligibility left to play 2.
[3] #54 in Rivals150 for 2015. Will sit out 2017-18, will have 2 years to play 2, may get 3 for 3 if NCAA approves a 6th year due to medical redshirting his freshman year (was hurt in 10th game of the season at Memphis).
[4] #55 in Rivals150 for 2016. Reportedly is applying for hardship transfer status so he can play this fall (transferring to be closer to ill father), but getting it seems unlikely as it is questionable that Lawrence is close enough to Chicago for this to be approved. Assuming it is NOT granted, he will have 3 years to play 3 at KU.
SCHOLARSHIPS AVAILABLE
13 total scholarships allowed each AY
- 8 returning scholarship players (assumes Silvio is good to go).
-> 5 scholarships for AY2017-18, depending upon other EEs, transfers or other losses
∴ 1 scholarships available as of this update.
ACADEMIC YEAR 2017-18 RECRUITING SYNOPSIS
Sources: Rivals, 247Sports, ESPN, Scout and others; National Rank & Ratings used are Rivals.
SIGNED or COMMITTED
(Date format is YY-MM-DD)
Pos Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT Hometown & HS/College Committed/Signed
CG 8/***** Quentin Grimes 6-5/180 The Woodlands, TX/College Park 17-11-15/17-11-15
PG 18/***** Devon Dotson 6-1/180 Charlotte, NC/Providence Day 17-10-13/17-11-11
PF 25/***** Silvio DeSousa[1] 6-9/220 Bradenton, FL/IMG Academy 17-08-30/17-11-08
C 33/**** David McCormack 6-10/260 Mouth of Wilson VA/Oak Hill Acad 17-09-24/17-11-11
G 141/*** Ochai Agbaji 6-5/200 KCMO/Oak Park 18-02-08/18-04-11
WALK-ONS
PG --/-- Garrett Luinstra 6-1/150 Lawrence, KS/Free State HS 18-02-08/
SG --/-- EJ Elliott 6-3/185 Dallas, TX/IMG Academy 18-05-06/
NOTES
[1] De Sousa graduated early and enrolled @KU 2017-12-26. This
reclassified him out of the 2018 class, so I have included him in
“returning scholarship players” as I count available scholarships.
In doing so I assuming he is not declared ineligible by the NCAA due to information uncovered in the FBI case against adidas staff and
contractors.OFFERED (Multiple sources; where available, National Rank & Ratings are Rivals.)
The following list contains only recruits with a reported offer (Rivals, 247Sports, Scout, ESPN) from KANSAS
or a listing on JayhawkSlant's "Hoops Hot Board".
(NB: ! after position indicates recruit is listed on JayhawkSlant's “Hoops Hot Board”)
P Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT Hometown & HS/College Interest
NONE KNOWN AS OF THIS UPDATE
TRANSFERS BEING RECRUITED
P Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT Hometown & College Interest
Transfer Notes
* Graduate transfer, 1 year of eligibility left
^ Will have 3 years to play 2 after sitting out a year
+ Will have 2 years to play 2 after sitting out a yearHIGH SCHOOL
P Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT Hometown & HS/College Decision
F! 3/***** Zion Williamson 6-6/230 Spartanburg, SC/Spartanburg Day Duke
F 3/***** Bol Bol 7-2/215 Santa Ana, CA /Mater Dei Oregon
F 5/***** Nassir Little 6-7/205 Orlando, FL/Orlando Christian Prep UNC
G 6/***** Romeo Langford 6-4/185 New Albany, IN/New Albany Indiana
G 15/***** Darius Garland 6-0/150 Nashville, TN/Brentwood Academy Vanderbilt
C 20/***** Moses Brown 7-0/225 Queens, NY/Archbishop Molloy UCLA
G 20/***** Ayo Dosunmu 6-4/185 Chicago, IL/Morgan Park Illinois
F 23/***** Emmitt Williams 6-6/215 Orlando, FL/Oak Ridge LSU
G 37/**** David Duke 6-4/190 Ashburnham, MA/Cushing Academy Providence
F 44/**** Jules Bernard 6-7/190 Los Angeles, CA/Windward UCLA
G 49/**** Jalen Carey 6-4/170 Montclair, NJ/Immaculate Conception Syracuse
F 54/**** T. Horton-Tucker 6-5/210 Chicago, IL/Simeon ISU
F 60/**** Darius Days 6-7/218 Gainesville, FL/Rock School LSU
G 63/**** Noah Locke 6-2/175 Owings Mills, MD/McDonogh Florida
F 76/**** Jermaine Harris 6-8/220 Clinton, MD/Clinton Christian Rhode Island
F 81/**** Jairus Hamilton 6-7/221 Concord, NC/Cannon School Boston College
F 82/**** Tevian Jones 6-6/185 Culver City, CA/Culver City Medium
F 85/**** Kaden Archie 6-6/200 Midlothian, TX/Midlothian TCU
G 98/**** Jamie Lewis 6-2/180 Henderson, NV/Findlay Prep Wake Forest
F 104/**** Ian Steere 6-8/250 Sanford, NC/Northwood Temple Acad NC State
G 115/**** K. Johnson 6-5/220 Mouth of Wilson, VA/Oak Hill Acad Florida
COLLEGE TRANSFERS
G -/- Joe Cremo* 6-4/185 Scotia, NY/ Albany-SUNY Villanova"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 6 months ago #14167
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
JayhawkSlant Early Signing Period Notebook
NB: From the premium side of the Slant ledger, today Shay says: "Right now, I believe KU's 2018 class, during the early period, will consist of Grimes, Dotson, De Sousa and McCormack. Again, subject to change."
IOW, Tomorrow he may differ...
Early signing period 8-15 November.
Stay tuned, eh?
Same Jayhawktime, same Jayhawkchannel...
(And yeah, I am old enough that I can remember seeing the original airing of the original expression.)
NB: From the premium side of the Slant ledger, today Shay says: "Right now, I believe KU's 2018 class, during the early period, will consist of Grimes, Dotson, De Sousa and McCormack. Again, subject to change."
IOW, Tomorrow he may differ...
Early signing period 8-15 November.
Stay tuned, eh?
Same Jayhawktime, same Jayhawkchannel...
(And yeah, I am old enough that I can remember seeing the original airing of the original expression.)
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 2 months ago #14213
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
As reported by Shay Wildeboor at Rivals' JayhawkSlant.com
(link to paid site)
Rivals capsule:
Tweet:
Rivals capsule:
Tweet:
Here's the gist of the article for those who are not Slant members.
Rivals No. 17 ranked 2018 player has officially visited the final two schools remaining on his list, Kansas and Maryland.
Self & Roberts, and "members of the Maryland coaching staff", visited Dotson in-home one last time yesterday (Wed 2017-11-11; second in-home for both programs) .
He originally focused in on a select group of schools: Kansas, Arizona, Florida, Maryland, Miami (FL), Ohio State, USC and Wake Forest, with KU and the Terps coming down to the wire for him.
The young man knows that Self thinks he can be the next great PG at KU.
Shay's thoughts on Dotson? Shay says he could be wrong, but he feels very good about Dotson picking KU.
Anticipating the question for those interested, nothing mentioned yet about being able to watch or listen in on the announcement.
If KU lands him, that would be at least 3 of the 4 recruits Shay believes will sign in the November early signing period.Getting 4 signed early would ensure KU fills the minimum scholarship openings early for the first time in a long time. KU may still have more openings for the Spring signing season -- up to 9 total (see the OP) -- but 4 openings (2 graduates, 1 open scholarship and at least 1 Early Entry) are a practical certainty.PG Dotson. PF 25/***** Silvio De Sousa 6-9/220 Bradenton, FL/IMG Academy 2017-08-30 commitment C 33/**** David McCormack 6-10/260 Mouth of Wilson VA/Oak Hill Acad 2017-09-24 commitment
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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7 years 5 months ago #14322
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Kansas commit Silvio De Sousa (@SilvioDeSousa5) makes it official ...
One down...
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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7 years 5 months ago #14382
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Yesterday evening Rivals Eric Bossi posted on JayhawkSlant that he is still expecting Quentin Grimes to pick KU NLT this Wednesday.
This morning Grimes tweeted this:
This morning Grimes tweeted this:
Maybe sooner than Wednesday?
247Sports Crystal Ball says 78% KU, 11% tu, 11% no clue.
247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Quentin-...t=636461635912859734
What would make a delightful KU trifecta this week? Best kenyucky, learn DeSousa can start early and land Grimes.
Make it so!
ROCK CHALK!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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7 years 5 months ago - 7 years 5 months ago #14384
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Looking forward to having a really fine birthday present in 2 days, Q!
Please don't disappoint me
Say KU's your choice, please
to play for the Final Four!*
Please don't disappoint me
Say KU's your choice, please
to play for the Final Four!*
*Words written with "When I'm 64" running through my befuddled brain (and yes, that last is also a reference, one that fans of vanguard symphonic/progressive rock group Procol Harum might just get...)
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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7 years 5 months ago #14387
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Gary Bedore on Twitter last night
OK, it's late but if you want me to shed some light on De Sousa maybe playing for KU this year. ... His guardian tells me the whole goal is for De Sousa to start playing for KU in late December, after Christmas.
11:16 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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Guardian said there are no problems regarding his credits and he should be finished with his last h.s. exam Dec. 12 or so.
11:18 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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The 1 possible snafu in the plans to play for KU this season. He will soon receive his standardized test score and that score must be matched with his core courses.
11:21 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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Bill Self told me: "His graduating class graduates in Dec. due to the fact he started in January in Angola. It’s his high school 8th semester. He is on pace for graduation. Now he has to make the corresponding test score. We don’t have the test score back yet."
11:22 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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Gary Bedore Retweeted Schultz
Excellent question... Guardian tells me he believes De Sousa will be draft eligible this June. Says he will not turn pro. Flat out said he'd be back to KU.
Schultz
@Beerbrad
Replying to @GaryBedore
If he does play second semester will he be draft eligible this June or will we see him 3 semesters at KU?
11:39 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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Somebody asked me his impact this year. I can't find the ? now. ... A: If he plays for KU starting in Big 12 season? I dunno. I know people like Larry Brown love his potential. But you know how it goes with freshmen. Tough to say especially since I haven't seen him play.
11:44 PM - 13 Nov 2017
Here's the link to Bedore's tweets:
OK, it's late but if you want me to shed some light on De Sousa maybe playing for KU this year. ... His guardian tells me the whole goal is for De Sousa to start playing for KU in late December, after Christmas.
11:16 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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Guardian said there are no problems regarding his credits and he should be finished with his last h.s. exam Dec. 12 or so.
11:18 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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The 1 possible snafu in the plans to play for KU this season. He will soon receive his standardized test score and that score must be matched with his core courses.
11:21 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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Bill Self told me: "His graduating class graduates in Dec. due to the fact he started in January in Angola. It’s his high school 8th semester. He is on pace for graduation. Now he has to make the corresponding test score. We don’t have the test score back yet."
11:22 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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Gary Bedore Retweeted Schultz
Excellent question... Guardian tells me he believes De Sousa will be draft eligible this June. Says he will not turn pro. Flat out said he'd be back to KU.
Schultz
@Beerbrad
Replying to @GaryBedore
If he does play second semester will he be draft eligible this June or will we see him 3 semesters at KU?
11:39 PM - 13 Nov 2017
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Somebody asked me his impact this year. I can't find the ? now. ... A: If he plays for KU starting in Big 12 season? I dunno. I know people like Larry Brown love his potential. But you know how it goes with freshmen. Tough to say especially since I haven't seen him play.
11:44 PM - 13 Nov 2017
Here's the link to Bedore's tweets:
Somebody asked me his impact this year. I can't find the ? now. ... A: If he plays for KU starting in Big 12 seaso… twitter.com/i/web/status/9…
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