When I'm not being angry,

Here is what I have learned over time. People don't want an honest discussion on topics like this. They want to mock and belittle any opposing views.

I can't stand the man and when we had the two candidates presented to us, I noted that I thought both were vile disgusting individuals and that it was sad that this is what the two parties put forth for us to choose from. The response was always how I was right on one side but utterly wrong on the other. To date, my opinion of them has not changed.

We are in a space now where opposition or alternative views are not discussed but crushed. We saw it with any opposition to Obama and we are seeing it now. You can't have a discussion when everyone has made up their mind that they are right and the opposition is somehow an inferior being with no sense of reality.

These types of questions become nothing more than anger inciting flash point, in my opinion.

First, I don't really care. It was a generalization and nothing more. If it offended you, not much I can say.

Second, I can't imagine any non-partisan sites coming to any conclusion other than Hillary is a person who wouldn't know the truth if were to smack her in the face. We have discussed this before and I am not going in to it again. We disagree on her and that is that.

Third, I have fallen for responding to a topic of yours only to have it change. I think the last time I responded to anything was on when is a life a life which got changed to you didn't really care about that you believe that a woman's right is absolute regardless of when a life is a life, which is an entirely different topic. So I stopped responding to anything. I still read everything as that is part of the job I signed up for to make sure nothing is out of hand here, but I think it is obvious at this point no true discussions are taking place here, which brings me back to the first point.

Finally, I will try to answer your original question. Though it seems very confusing to me that many people can't get past their hate and demonizing to see that there are actual issues in play. Having said that, I am not saying I agree with any of this, just that it is pretty easy to see why some people still support him. So here goes, take it for what it is worth:

People have viewed our government as moving too far to the left and out of touch with basic principles found in the constitution. They see the Democrats with far left views and don't want that. They see Bernie Sanders and socialism taking over the Democrats and will do anything to avoid that.

They felt Obama Care was one of those steps towards socialism and therefore wanted someone to dismantle it. He has been doing that.

They saw Government intervention by various agencies (the EPA for example) that are overstepping their boundaries and he has rolled that back.

They saw globalization of our economy as a bad thing. They wanted a more nationalistic America First stance and he has done that. Most don't mind immigrants, they just want them to be legal ones. Go through the process and become citizens, don't just move in and expect to change the US to your needs.

They saw us as the worlds police without countries helping pay for their fair share and he has made NATO countries step up and pay more.

They have seen PC go to far to the point that open discussions about anything are not allowed for fear of someone crying foul. He is gruff and goes against that.

Just like folks didn't care that Bill was a womanizer, they don't particularly care that he is a disgusting jerk because he is pushing things they want.

They see the media as no longer reporting the news but trying to make it and he essentially tells them go away and reaches out directly and they like that.

I could go on and on with why people still support him, but that assumes that you get past what a despicable human being he is.

Do I agree with all of that? Nope. Can I understand it? Yep. Do I think he could have been more presidential and get to some of the same things and make those more palatable? Yes. But that don't give a poop stance is what a lot of folks who rebel against the PC world like.

Trump is backlash of globalization, socialism, and political correctness, in my opinion.

As to who I like on the Democrat side. Pretty much no one who is left standing. I sort of liked Moulton, Delaney, and Bennet as they were much more moderate and tried to work across party lines. They did not stand a chance.

And one last thing. People all over the country are insulating themselves from those they do not agree with and surrounding themselves with only those who share the same opinion. That is not good for us as people or the country, in my opinion. You have to expose yourself to differing views or I think we will all just remain angry at those others and continually wonder how the hell they ever got the right to vote.

At least by me.

No I don't think any opinions will change here. That was part of the point of my initial post.

But to be clear and honest, I really have no opinion of you. None. I don't know you. I only know what you post and I respond to that. I have no feelings towards you in any way shape of form.

It has been around a year and a half since I posted anything, so you really haven't had to work hard to avoid me. Not really sure why I bothered to respond here as I generally see this as futile, but I did.

As for reminding you that I am a moderator. That was not my intent. I was trying to say that I wouldn't even bother reading this board, if I didn't feel like I had to. I have read every post, but as you well know, there is no discussion here whatsoever so I am really not certain of the point of the board any more, but if it makes folks feel better, have at it.

Enjoy and post on!