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A very good friend of mine suggested that if she ran, she would be. Of course 6 years ago I said that if Hillary ran, she would be, so I am not certain any sort of prediction at this point has any validity. But I thought I would put it out there for folks to think about.
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My thought about a woman who should run when she gets quite a lot older, is Chelsea Clinton. I've seen her doing a few interviews, and she presents herself as a wise, very well-spoken young woman. (Then again, after seeing what her mother endured, why would she even think of being in politics?)
Maybe in the meantime we could be lucky enough to have Elizabeth Warren as our first woman POTUS. She's a firecracker and fearless, to boot!
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I think the left ignores a lot of true issues by attempting to discredit the source by playing the race card. As a result you are seeing a voice given to true racist. No one denies they are out there, I think people question the reason they are more vocal though and the actual degree of it. By calling everyone racist, you cheapen the term and force a lot of people into a corner where they do not belong.
Your statement is dismissive and attempts to belittle true criticism. Similar to the anti - American rants we used to see.
It is about degrees here, imo
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"After what her husband endured, why would she want to put herself through that?"
What did President Obama "endure"? Opposition from the right? He is adored by the press. I just can't imagine what he has had to endure any greater than what other presidents have also had to "endure". It goes with the job.
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But the Ape in Heels for his wife, the monkey comments, the Muslim, etc. that was all pretty horrible and sad.
But that brings me to another topic which I am trying how to start a new thread on it. Since Fake News is all the rage I wanted to give it some thought and start a new thread on it, I just don't have the time right at this moment.
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"Playing the race card." This is a phrase created by the right to marginalize and be dismissive of folks who call out racism and bigotry when, in their opinion, it is encountered. Suppose someone sees a statement or action that is obviously racist. Is calling it as such "playing the race card?" As for Republicans, are all Republicans racists? Of course not. Are there racist Democrats? Undoubtedly. However, ever racist/bigot I've ever known who expressed a political affiliation was a Republican.
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To the topic of race card; When every criticism of a person is dismissed as being racially motivated, then yes they are playing the race card. Labeling a person to dismiss and not address real issues is what allows one to be insulated from the truth. It creates great shock at political outcomes like we just had.
I read boulder's comment to be making fun of the left's insistence that the country is motivated so dramatically by racism that there isn't a chance for her. I don't know a great deal about her, but what little I do know, I like. But I am one of the many who had issues with Obama and was routinely dismissed as being racially motivated. So I can sort of see where he was coming from.
Calling out racist and bigoted comments should be done. But dismissing any criticism as racially motivated discredits the criticism as well as the defender.
As for seeing something that is obviously racist, I would offer that little has been placed out there. Bigoted? Yes. Racially motivated? Yes. Racist? Not as much as is often claimed. Racists comments require a superiority or inferiority due to race not just a degradation. More often than not, comments called out as racist are more often than not bigoted and ignorant, but not racist.
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Since you asked for GOP names, I will give you what I recall from other conversations with folks.
I am terrible with names, but there is a woman from NH that was talked of very highly. Mitch McConnell's wife. (Can't think of her name either, but she had appeal across both sides of the aisle for a while) I know some have talked about Rice (though I am not a big fan of hers either). The Senator from Maine I believe is rather moderate.
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I hope that President elect Trump will try to solve problems instead of whine, complain and blame everything on President Obama. We will see.
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The vile attack on Donald Trump is also unprecedented and he isn't even President yet! The left can't accept loss and claim that he is not truly the president! We had an election and Trump won. How ironic that you are bringing up the attempt by a few to "de-legitimize" the Obama presidency. That is exactly what your very own side is trying to do now with Donald Trump's presidency! I can only imagine what he and his family will go through in the next four years. I think in the end he will find that he was treated much worse than Obama and his family. Time will tell.
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"When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." President Trump
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Unlike Trump, he shows respect for women, different cultures, and lifestyles. He has not made fun of the handicapped. He hasn't
bragged that he could shoot someone on the street and suffer no consequences. He has preferred negotiations and diplomacy with our enemies whenever possible rather than declaring war, using force only as a last resort. He certainly appears to be of excellent moral character.
You might try broadening your media source horizons, Allen, rather than basing your opinions on what Fox News reports. The opinions you hold lack credibility and evidence. Even if you don't like anyone on MSNBC, there are public television news programs which are usually bi-partisan.
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