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Why didn't KU shoot free throws after Frank drew the charge?
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8 years 9 months ago #3632
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8 years 9 months ago #3633
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Because the refs are Moutaineers???
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8 years 9 months ago #3636
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Hic manebimus optime
That's been the rules for a long time now. Player control foul.
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8 years 9 months ago #3641
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What other fouls constitute a player control foul?
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8 years 9 months ago #3687
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
From a quick reading of a zebra forum, any foul committed by the player with the ball is a player control foul.
For example, charging is a PCF if the player called had the ball. If he dishes and then runs into the defender, it is still a charge -- and, I believe, a "team control foul", but not a PCF because he no longer has the ball.
Other examples would be the dribbler using his forearm or straight arm to hold off a defender (the former almost never being called), or using his hands on a defender to help stop and/or change direction.
Anyone with more and/or better info, please chime in!
For example, charging is a PCF if the player called had the ball. If he dishes and then runs into the defender, it is still a charge -- and, I believe, a "team control foul", but not a PCF because he no longer has the ball.
Other examples would be the dribbler using his forearm or straight arm to hold off a defender (the former almost never being called), or using his hands on a defender to help stop and/or change direction.
Anyone with more and/or better info, please chime in!
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8 years 9 months ago #3692
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Much appreciated!
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8 years 9 months ago #3701
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Free Throws are not awarded if there is team control and an offensive foul occurs. The rule used to be no FT's on a player control foul but now that is extended to team control. The penalty for the foul is loss of possession. In the past, the penalty would be worse in that you lose possession and give up free throws.
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Lucas is called for an illegal screen, no FT's awarded the other team, just a personal foul and change of possession
Lucas crashes the boards on a missed SVI shot and is called for a foul trying to get the rebound. No team control, so the opposing team would be awarded free throws if in the bonus situation
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Lucas is called for an illegal screen, no FT's awarded the other team, just a personal foul and change of possession
Lucas crashes the boards on a missed SVI shot and is called for a foul trying to get the rebound. No team control, so the opposing team would be awarded free throws if in the bonus situation
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8 years 9 months ago #3738
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What do you think the reason was for the change?
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8 years 9 months ago #3741
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I think it was the penalty. An offensive foul was actually more of a penalty than a defensive foul. Offensive foul = loss of possession + free throws. Defensive foul = free throws
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8 years 9 months ago #3742
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And weird that I even was thinking that. Thanks for your help!
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