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+/- for TCU (Jamari has decent game)
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8 years 9 months ago #3447
by CorpusJayhawk
Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
Game No. ------> 22
Date: 2/3/2016
Opponent: Kansas St.
Location: Lawrence (Allen Fieldhouse)
(+/-) x-(+/-)
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Rnk Player Min (+/-) Min x-Min x(+/-) x-Min Δ
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1 Selden Jr. 23.0 32 1.39 17.0 -13 -0.76 2.16
2 Mason III 38.1 22 0.58 2.0 -3 -1.54 2.12
3 Lucas 11.2 18 1.61 28.9 1 0.03 1.58
4 Ellis 34.0 24 0.71 6.1 -5 -0.83 1.53
5 Graham 27.3 21 0.77 12.8 -2 -0.16 0.93
6 Traylor 14.5 9 0.62 25.5 10 0.39 0.23
7 Manning 0.0 0 0.00 40.0 19 0.48 -0.48
8 Young 0.0 0 0.00 40.0 19 0.48 -0.48
9 Vick 4.1 -1 -0.24 35.9 20 0.56 -0.80
10 Mickelson 2.5 -2 -0.82 37.6 21 0.56 -1.38
11 Diallo 10.4 -6 -0.58 29.6 25 0.84 -1.42
12 Bragg Jr. 9.2 -8 -0.87 30.8 27 0.88 -1.75
13 Mykhailiuk 23.9 -9 -0.38 16.1 28 1.74 -2.11
14 Self 1.4 -3 -2.14 38.6 22 0.57 -2.71
15 Greene 0.7 -2 -2.79 39.3 21 0.53 -3.33
2016 Season Total
Through 22 Games
(+/-) x-(+/-)
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Rnk Player Min (+/-) Min x-Min x(+/-) x-Min Δ
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1 Ellis 664 282 0.42 236 32 0.14 0.29
2 Selden Jr. 646 274 0.42 254 40 0.16 0.27
3 Mason III 736 259 0.35 164 55 0.33 0.02
4 Graham 701 202 0.29 199 112 0.56 -0.27
5 Mykhailiuk 272 125 0.46 628 189 0.30 0.16
6 Mickelson 167 114 0.68 733 200 0.27 0.41
7 Bragg Jr. 229 82 0.36 671 232 0.35 0.01
8 Lucas 279 105 0.38 621 209 0.34 0.04
9 Greene 225 72 0.32 675 242 0.36 -0.04
10 Traylor 289 22 0.08 611 292 0.48 -0.40
11 Diallo 152 45 0.30 748 269 0.36 -0.06
12 Vick 75 8 0.11 825 306 0.37 -0.26
13 Manning 25 -3 -0.12 875 317 0.36 -0.48
14 Young 18 -7 -0.39 882 321 0.36 -0.76
15 Self 24 -10 -0.41 876 324 0.37 -0.78Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
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8 years 9 months ago #3454
by hairyhawk
I am surprised Svi is -9. I thought he did alright. I wonder if it was mostly in the 2nd half that his numbers went south as I know he did have a bad stretch. Interesting that Wayne was so good plus minus when he only scored 3 points.
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8 years 9 months ago #3455
by JoJoHawk
HCBS indicated in post game 'view that Wayne was ill today- I felt he looked gassed for much of the game. Highlight bounce pass on break in second half though. Could you remind us what goes into the +/- calculation or observation?
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8 years 9 months ago #3456
by Sieverling
Hic manebimus optime
Svi did not have a good game on the defensive end.
Hic manebimus optime
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8 years 9 months ago #3458
by CorpusJayhawk
Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
Definitions
Min --> Obviously is the minutes played
(+/-) --> Is the scoring differential during the minutes the player is in the game
(+/-) per Min --> Obviously the total +/- divided by the minutes played
x-Min --> "x" indicates time not in the game so this is the minutes the player was on the bench or not in the game.
x-(+/-) --> This is the +/- during the time the player is not in the game.
x-(+/-) per Min --> Obviously the x-(+/-) divided by x-Min
Δ --> The delta is the difference between the (+/-) per min and the x-(+/-) per min. It measures the difference in the scoring margin between the time a player is in the game and when he is not in the game.
Min --> Obviously is the minutes played
(+/-) --> Is the scoring differential during the minutes the player is in the game
(+/-) per Min --> Obviously the total +/- divided by the minutes played
x-Min --> "x" indicates time not in the game so this is the minutes the player was on the bench or not in the game.
x-(+/-) --> This is the +/- during the time the player is not in the game.
x-(+/-) per Min --> Obviously the x-(+/-) divided by x-Min
Δ --> The delta is the difference between the (+/-) per min and the x-(+/-) per min. It measures the difference in the scoring margin between the time a player is in the game and when he is not in the game.
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8 years 9 months ago #3460
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Selden had 5 assists against 1 turnover. That kind of success can enable "upticks" in the +/- even if a player isn't scoring much because it means the team is putting the ball in the hoop when he's on the floor and having more chances to do so due to low turnovers.
(And, of course, there are caveats to it because other players can be stinking it up while the good-performing player is out there, etc.)
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, Corpus.
(And, of course, there are caveats to it because other players can be stinking it up while the good-performing player is out there, etc.)
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, Corpus.
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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8 years 9 months ago #3467
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
... the +/- did not do Jamari justice today.
He was screening, he was blocking out, he was rebounding on both ends, and he was even scoring a little -- in other words, for once he was hustling effectively instead of being the "energy guy" whose energies aren't properly focused. There were a handful of occasions where I thought "no!" and then went "YES, JAMARI!" because he was either saving our missed shoots for second and even third chances or blocking out and either getting or leaving space for Perry and others to get defensive rebounds that were sorely needed to counter our TOs.
In just 15 minutes he was second only to Perry (10) in rebounds (7, and 5 of those were OFFENSIVE boards, with only Bragg (2) getting more than 1 OR in the game), scored 6 points and did not turn the ball over once.
In his brief time in, Jamari was a major contributor today. I just hope we can say the same again and again over the rest of the season.
He was screening, he was blocking out, he was rebounding on both ends, and he was even scoring a little -- in other words, for once he was hustling effectively instead of being the "energy guy" whose energies aren't properly focused. There were a handful of occasions where I thought "no!" and then went "YES, JAMARI!" because he was either saving our missed shoots for second and even third chances or blocking out and either getting or leaving space for Perry and others to get defensive rebounds that were sorely needed to counter our TOs.
In just 15 minutes he was second only to Perry (10) in rebounds (7, and 5 of those were OFFENSIVE boards, with only Bragg (2) getting more than 1 OR in the game), scored 6 points and did not turn the ball over once.
In his brief time in, Jamari was a major contributor today. I just hope we can say the same again and again over the rest of the season.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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8 years 9 months ago #3468
by hairyhawk
I know I am not Corpus but I am sure you're right. Obviously Wayne also played well on defense.
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8 years 9 months ago #3477
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There was one possession in the first half where he grabbed two offensive rebounds on consecutive missed shots. It's so great to watch as a fan of the team (just as it's so demoralizing to watch when the O rebounds come against your team).
There was another OReb that led to a layup and then the follow jam off a Frank miss. Good stuff, Jamari!
There was another OReb that led to a layup and then the follow jam off a Frank miss. Good stuff, Jamari!
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