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2 weeks 8 hours ago #33667
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[chant] SIX MORE GAMES! SIX MORE GAMES! SIX MORE GAMES!
Survive and advance.
Kansas can beat anybody. Kansas can also lose to anybody. That's actually
a pretty good mindset to have going into the Big Dance. It pretty much
guarantees that you're not going to take any opponent lightly. And now that
we've seen a couple of 1 seeds lose to 16 seeds in the Big Dance, it's strong
evidence that nobody should ever take an opponent lightly in this Tournament.
But the computer ratings suggest that Kansas has less than a 0.1 percent
chance of actually winning the National Championship. Of course, those odds
assume that the higher seeded opponent always advances in the tournament.
If there are upsets that eliminate a potential future opponent, the odds will
likely improve. And of course, winning the first game will improve the odds
by over 50 percent.
For some bizarre reason, Seven Overtimes has Arkansas with an
automatic bid and a 12 seed. Huh? You have to win your conference
tournament to receive an automatic bid. Some folks in Florida
might dispute Arkansas' automatic bid. And 12 seeds do not play
against 7 seeds in the Round of 64.
And as of Thursday morning, INCCStats.com still hasn't put up any predictions
for the Big Dance, although it did do so for the Big 12 Tournament. The other
fifteen predictions are almost unanimous in favoring Kansas, and by up to 11.5
points (Dunkel), though the common opponents comparison does favor Arkansas by
a fraction of a point. The average is 4.71 points in favor of Kansas, with a
scatter of 2.63 points.
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Greenfield Stats Comparison
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Offensive Stats Ark KU Defensive Stats Ark KU
Points/Game 76.6 76.2 Opp Points/Game 71.2 69.3
Avg Score Margin +5.5 +6.9 Opp Effective FG % 48.3 46.2
Assists/Game 14.5 17.7 Off Rebounds/Gm 7.5 8.9
Total Rebounds/Gm 35.3 38.5 Def Rebounds/Gm 24.5 25.9
Effective FG % 52.7 53.1 Blocks/Game 5.6 4.8
Off Rebound % 25.0 28.0 Steals/Game 7.6 6.2
FTA/FGA 0.355 0.243 Personal Fouls/Gm 16.1 14.2
Turnover % 14.6 14.5
My Stats Comparison KU Ark
=================== ============= ============
performance +1.14 +1.20
inconsistency 13.24 11.11
trend -0.33 ± 0.24 +0.01 ± 0.21
mental toughness -0.27 ± 0.25 -0.22 ± 0.17
average total pts 145.48 148.03
Common Opponents
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There are two common opponents, namely Baylor and Missouri, the latter of which
Arkansas has played twice, giving us three scores to compare. Some of you might
argue that there is a fourth score that can be compared, namely the exhibition
game that Kansas played against Arkansas, but recall that Hunter Dickinson did
not play in that contest, Rylan Griffen did not play in that contest, and Shakeel
Moore did not play in that contest. So I've chosen not to include that score
here.
KU -11 BU on road ( -7 neutral court)
Ark -5 BU neutral ( -5 neutral court)
KU -2 Ark neutral ( -2 neutral court)
KU -9 MU on road ( -5 neutral court) KU -9 MU on road ( -5 neutral court)
Ark -18 MU on road (-13 neutral court) Ark +7 MU at home ( +3 neutral court)
KU +8 Ark neutral ( +8 neutral court) KU -8 Ark neutral ( -8 neutral court)
One of the comparisons favors Kansas, while two favor Arkansas. The average is
0.67 points in favor of Arkansas, with a scatter of 8.08 points. I don't put a
lot of stock in this result, partially due to small number statistics, and
partially because Kansas should have beaten Baylor, and handily. That meltdown
still boggles the mind.
Players to Watch
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most minutes D. J. Wagner (guard)
most points Adou Thiero (forward)
most rebounds Adou Thiero (forward)
most assists Boogie Fland (guard)
most steals Adou Thiero (forward)
most blocks Zvonimir Ivisic (forward)
most turnovers D. J. Wagner (guard)
most fouls Adou Thiero (forward)
Greenfield claims that Boogie Fland is out for the remainder of the season with
a hand injury, but media reports say he'll be back for the tournament. Is that
an inconsistency, or when Greenfield said "remainder of the season", did he mean
"remainder of the regular season"? But Boogie didn't play in the SEC Tournament.
If he does play, he may be on limited minutes. Also, leading scorer and rebounder
Adou Theiro has been out with a knee injury, and Calipari described his status for
Thursday's game as "doubtful". Or is Calipari trying to goad Self into not
preparing for him?
21-12 20-13
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Arkansas
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Massey +4.00 76 72 64 # 21 # 4 # 42 # 40
Pomeroy +3.89 74 70 64.3 # 21 # 12 # 40 # 23
Greenfield +4.50 75 70.5 # 14 # 8 # 39 # 33
Dunkel +11.50 76 65 # 91 #100
Vegas (via Dunkel) +4.50 75 71
Dolphin Predictive +5.07 74 69 67.3 # 21 # 10 # 37 # 30
Seven Overtimes +8.00 77 69 68 # 23 # 10 # 90 # 73
Real Time +5.00 73 68 58.6 # 30 # 10 # 75 # 41
DPPI +3.60 75 72 61.1 # 16 # 5 # 40 # 35
ESPN BPI +5.60 71.0 # 14 # 4 # 42 # 43
Whitlock +2.93 # 22 # 7 # 39 # 28
Colley Matrix +2.74 # 27 # 9 # 52 # 30
Donchess +4.70 78 73 64.9 # 28 # 8 # 38 # 25
Haslametrics +5.29 75 69 # 18 # 42
INCCStats # 18 # 38
common opponents -0.67
NCAA NET # 20 # 40
LRMC # 15 # 4 # 38 # 45
Massey composite # 25 # 41
Pomeroy offense # 48 # 73
Pomeroy defense # 11 # 20
Pomeroy tempo #113 # 68
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +4.71 75.3 69.9 64.9
scatter 2.63 1.4 2.2 3.9
Here is Kansas' season:
CUMU.
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB. PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- ----- -----
HOME #312 Howard 87 57 +29.05 +0.95
HOME # 33 North Carolina 92 89 +6.11 -3.11
NEUT # 8 Michigan St. 77 69 -2.85 +10.85
HOME #177 Oakland 78 57 +19.28 +1.72
HOME #105 UNC Wilmington 84 66 +15.34 +2.66
NEUT # 1 Duke 75 72 -9.80 +12.80
HOME #137 Furman 86 51 +17.36 +17.64
AWAY # 37 Creighton 63 76 -0.41 -12.59
AWAY # 15 Missouri 67 76 -4.25 -4.75
HOME #125 N.C. State 75 60 +16.23 -1.23
HOME #208 Brown 87 53 +21.29 +12.71
HOME # 53 West Virginia 61 62 +8.77 -9.77
AWAY # 68 UCF 99 48 +4.92 +46.08
HOME # 70 Arizona St. 74 55 +11.79 +7.21
AWAY # 55 Cincinnati 54 40 +2.07 +11.93
AWAY # 10 Iowa St. 57 74 -6.04 -10.96
HOME # 67 Kansas St. 84 74 +10.88 -0.88
AWAY # 86 TCU 74 61 +6.16 +6.84
HOME # 3 Houston 86 92 -3.94 -2.06
HOME # 68 UCF 91 87 +11.92 -7.92
AWAY # 29 Baylor 70 81 -2.08 -8.92
HOME # 10 Iowa St. 69 52 +0.96 +16.04
AWAY # 67 Kansas St. 73 81 +3.88 -11.88
HOME # 81 Colorado 71 59 +12.84 -0.84
AWAY # 76 Utah 67 74 +5.17 -12.17
AWAY # 24 BYU 57 91 -2.89 -31.11
HOME #100 Oklahoma St. 96 64 +15.66 +16.34
AWAY # 81 Colorado 71 64 +5.84 +1.16
HOME # 7 Texas Tech 73 78 +0.36 -5.36
AWAY # 3 Houston 59 65 -10.94 +4.94
HOME # 14 Arizona 83 76 +1.82 +5.18
NEUT # 68 UCF 98 94 +8.42 -4.42
NEUT # 14 Arizona 77 88 -1.68 -9.32
NEUT # 40 Arkansas 74 70 +3.89 0.643 0.643
NEUT # 11 St. John's 69 71 -2.18 0.419 0.269
NEUT # 7 Texas Tech 71 74 -3.14 0.383 0.103
NEUT # 2 Florida 72 81 -8.99 0.198 0.020
NEUT # 4 Auburn 71 78 -7.92 0.227 0.005
NEUT # 1 Duke 66 76 -9.80 0.177 0.001
Here is Arkansas' season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME # 83 Lipscomb 76 70 +8.99 -2.99
NEUT # 29 Baylor 67 72 -2.23 -2.77
HOME # 98 Troy 65 49 +10.78 +5.22
HOME #283 Pacific 91 72 +22.40 -3.40
HOME #227 Little Rock 79 67 +19.00 -7.00
HOME #358 Maryland Eastern Shore 109 35 +30.34 +43.66
NEUT # 20 Illinois 77 90 -4.20 -8.80
AWAY #192 Miami FL 75 73 +10.34 -8.34
HOME #191 UTSA 75 60 +17.77 -2.77
NEUT # 25 Michigan 89 87 -3.24 +5.24
NEUT #346 Central Arkansas 82 57 +24.20 +0.80
HOME #335 North Carolina A&T 95 67 +27.40 +0.60
HOME #177 Oakland 92 62 +15.90 +14.10
AWAY # 5 Tennessee 52 76 -12.23 -11.77
HOME # 26 Mississippi 66 73 +0.53 -7.53
HOME # 2 Florida 63 71 -9.58 +1.58
AWAY # 88 LSU 74 78 +2.71 -6.71
AWAY # 15 Missouri 65 83 -8.14 -9.86
HOME # 34 Georgia 68 65 +2.35 +0.65
HOME # 38 Oklahoma 62 65 +3.08 -6.08
AWAY # 16 Kentucky 89 79 -8.25 +18.25
AWAY # 44 Texas 78 70 -3.16 +11.16
HOME # 6 Alabama 81 85 -5.77 +1.77
HOME # 88 LSU 70 58 +9.71 +2.29
AWAY # 17 Texas A&M 61 69 -7.80 -0.20
AWAY # 4 Auburn 60 67 -15.39 +8.39
HOME # 15 Missouri 92 85 -1.14 +8.14
HOME # 44 Texas 86 81 +3.84 +1.16
AWAY # 69 South Carolina 53 72 +0.62 -19.62
AWAY # 49 Vanderbilt 90 77 -2.37 +15.37
HOME # 32 Mississippi St. 93 92 +1.84 -0.84
NEUT # 69 South Carolina 72 68 +4.12 -0.12
NEUT # 26 Mississippi 80 83 -2.97 -0.03
NEUT # 21 Kansas 70 74 -3.89 0.357
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2 weeks 5 hours ago - 2 weeks 5 hours ago #33668
by HawkErrant
Add in that Arkansas leading scorer and rebounder Adou Thiero is projected out for tonight’s game and the odds are that much better for KU.
Mahalo, asteroid!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
asteroid wrote: … Some of you might
argue that there is a fourth score that can be compared, namely the exhibition
game that Kansas played against Arkansas, but recall that Hunter Dickinson did
not play in that contest, Rylan Griffen did not play in that contest, and Shakeel
Moore did not play in that contest. So I've chosen not to include that score
here.
Add in that Arkansas leading scorer and rebounder Adou Thiero is projected out for tonight’s game and the odds are that much better for KU.
Mahalo, asteroid!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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1 week 6 days ago #33670
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It took a while, but INCCStats finally posted a prediction. Kansas by 3, 74 to 71, with a 63 percent chance of victory.
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1 week 6 days ago #33671
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The end is nothing; the road is all.
-- Jules Michelet
Losing this game will put us out of our misery . . .

RC

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The end is nothing; the road is all.
-- Jules Michelet
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1 week 6 days ago #33672
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Exactly. I think the loss to Houston really affected this team. They were never the same after that.
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1 week 2 days ago #33707
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Asteroid,
Thank you for all of your focus and effort, every game. I look forward to the read as pregame prep.
Until next season.
RCJGKU
Thank you for all of your focus and effort, every game. I look forward to the read as pregame prep.
Until next season.
RCJGKU
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