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3 months 1 week ago #33338
by asteroid
The last time Arizona State came to Lawrence was 2017, and the Sun Devils
returned to Tempe with a 95 to 85 victory. A player known as Remy Martin
came off the bench and scored 21 points in that game. Kansas squandered
a 3 point halftime lead after leading the entire first half. Of course,
a few years later, that same Remy Martin was a Jayhawk and helped the
team win its most recent national championship with 14 points off the
bench. Would you trade a loss in today's game for a national championship
four seasons from now? Heck, I'll admit to being selfish, wanting both a
victory today AND a national championship, without having to wait four
seasons to get it.
Over the first six games, Kansas was an amazingly consistent team. Over
the most recent seven games, Kansas has been amazingly inconsistent,
except for the North Carolina State game, which was abpout as spot-on as
you can get. I would like to see a return to consistency, though at a
higher level of performance, the kind of level you'd expect from a
contender for the national championship. It would be crazy to expect a
repeat of the UCF result, but a string of above-expectation performances
might signal that the Jayhawks have finally figured out how the various
individually talented parts can gel into a single well-oiled machine.
Everyone is calling for the Jayhawks to win. Colley has Arizona State
ranked higher than the others at #31, which translates into the most
pessimistic of the various predictions, at just 6 points. Meanwhile,
the BPI has Arizona State ranked lower than the others at #60, which
leads to the most optimistic prediction of the lot at 14 points. The
average is 11.1 points with a scatter of 2.8 points.
The Sun Devils have played above expectation by at least 11.1 points on
just two occasions, including their most recent home game against Colorado.
Kansas has played below expectation by at least 11.1 points on three
occasions, all losses. But the Jayhawks learned what the recipe for
success looks like in Orlando, so hopefully they can avoid repeating
the kind of performance that led to those three losses.
It has now been two games in a row that the Real Time web site hasn't even
been responding. Add to that the fact that the web site was still stuck on
last season earlier this season, so it may be that Real Time has decided to
stop doing power rankings. Perhaps just as well; his predictions were among
the worst that I regularly tracked. I still don't know how he justified the
enormous home court advantage he used in his predictions. Anyway, I've
removed Real Time from the table of predictions below. Eyes are dry here.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
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Offensive Stats ASU KU Defensive Stats ASU KU
Points/Game 77.0 79.3 Opp Points/Game 70.9 64.3
Avg Score Margin +6.1 +15.0 Opp Effective FG % 46.9 43.4
Assists/Game 13.9 19.0 Off Rebounds/Gm 7.5 8.6
Total Rebounds/Gm 37.0 39.7 Def Rebounds/Gm 25.8 26.9
Effective FG % 53.8 55.0 Blocks/Game 5.3 5.1
Off Rebound % 24.4 27.7 Steals/Game 6.0 6.8
FTA/FGA 0.379 0.209 Personal Fouls/Gm 15.9 14.2
Turnover % 16.1 12.8
My Stats Comparison KU ASU
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performance +2.62 +0.91
inconsistency 15.50 9.77
trend +1.10 ± 1.15 +0.20 ± 0.75
mental toughness -0.05 ± 0.45 -0.05 ± 0.26
average total pts 143.62 147.92
Common Opponents
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There are no common opponents.
Players to Watch
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most minutes Alston Mason (guard)
most points Basheer Jihad (forward)
most rebounds Jayden Quaintance (forward)
most assists Alston Mason (guard)
most steals Jayden Quaintance (forward)
most blocks Jayden Quaintance (forward)
most turnovers Basheer Jihad (forward)
most fouls Shawn Phillips Jr. (center)
Rserve guard Austin Nunez is out for the season with a foot injury. Guard Joson Samon
is questionable for the game; he is their second-leading scorer.
10-3 10-3
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Arizons St.
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
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Massey +10.00 76 66 83 # 18 # 12 # 50 # 25
Pomeroy +12.05 79 67 87.3 # 8 # 19 # 56 # 28
Greenfield +13.50 78.5 65 # 10 # 9 # 59 # 37
Dunkel +6.50 73 67 # 36 # 56
Vegas (via Dunkel) +13.50 79 65
Dolphin Predictive +12.63 78 65 86.3 # 8 # 10 # 53 # 34
Seven Overtimes +7.00 76 69 66 # 16 # 10 # 46 # 17
DPPI +11.50 78 67 81.3 # 11 # 10 # 48 # 21
ESPN BPI +13.90 90.3 # 5 # 9 # 60 # 25
Whitlock +9.78 # 10 # 8 # 48 # 20
Colley Matrix +5.93 # 15 # 8 # 31 # 30
Donchess +13.00 83 70 90.1 # 12 # 9 # 57 # 22
Haslametrics +13.03 79 66 # 10 # 59
INCCStats +13.00 79 66 89 # 6 # 56
common opponents
NCAA NET # 10 # 52
LRMC # # # #
Massey composite # 12 # 47
Pomeroy offense # 23 # 87
Pomeroy defense # 5 # 34
Pomeroy tempo #104 #161
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +11.09 78.1 66.6 84.2
scatter 2.79 2.5 1.6 8.0
Here is Kansas' season, for which the projected record is currently 22-9:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
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HOME #283 Howard 87 57 +28.99 +1.01
HOME # 30 North Carolina 92 89 +9.05 -6.05
NEUT # 18 Michigan St. 77 69 +2.48 +5.52
HOME #205 Oakland 78 57 +22.68 -1.68
HOME #153 UNC Wilmington 84 66 +21.26 -3.26
NEUT # 1 Duke 75 72 -6.99 +9.99
HOME #107 Furman 86 51 +17.90 +17.10
AWAY # 49 Creighton 63 76 +3.92 -16.92
AWAY # 46 Missouri 67 76 +3.59 -12.59
HOME # 92 N.C. State 75 60 +15.96 -0.96
HOME #202 Brown 87 53 +23.18 +10.82
HOME # 48 West Virginia 61 62 +10.43 -11.43
AWAY # 78 UCF 99 48 +8.50 +42.50
HOME # 56 Arizona St. 79 67 +12.05 0.873
AWAY # 32 Cincinnati 70 68 +1.74 0.565
AWAY # 4 Iowa St. 74 80 -6.80 0.260
HOME # 94 Kansas St. 82 66 +16.72 0.943
AWAY # 74 TCU 74 66 +7.66 0.765
HOME # 3 Houston 65 66 -0.86 0.468
HOME # 78 UCF 84 69 +15.50 0.928
AWAY # 17 Baylor 74 75 -1.18 0.455
HOME # 4 Iowa St. 77 77 +0.20 0.508
AWAY # 94 Kansas St. 79 69 +9.72 0.821
HOME # 84 Colorado 80 65 +15.59 0.930
AWAY # 88 Utah 82 73 +9.38 0.812
AWAY # 47 BYU 78 74 +3.57 0.632
HOME #103 Oklahoma St. 85 67 +18.59 0.961
AWAY # 84 Colorado 77 68 +8.59 0.792
HOME # 16 Texas Tech 78 73 +5.41 0.695
AWAY # 3 Houston 62 70 -7.86 0.229
HOME # 13 Arizona 81 76 +4.74 0.673
Here is Arizona State's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
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HOME #228 Idaho St. 55 48 +16.64 -9.64
NEUT # 76 Santa Clara 81 74 +2.87 +4.13
AWAY # 7 Gonzaga 80 88 -13.36 +5.36
NEUT # 97 Grand Canyon 87 76 +5.34 +5.66
HOME #115 St. Thomas 81 66 +10.69 +4.31
HOME #242 Cal Poly 93 89 +19.50 -15.50
NEUT # 61 New Mexico 85 82 +1.35 +1.65
NEUT # 36 Saint Mary's 68 64 -2.06 +6.06
HOME #285 San Diego 90 53 +21.09 +15.91
NEUT # 5 Florida 66 83 -11.11 -5.89
NEUT #223 Massachusetts 78 62 +14.08 +1.92
AWAY # 47 BYU 56 76 -4.88 -15.12
HOME # 84 Colorado 81 61 +7.03 +12.97
AWAY # 8 Kansas 67 79 -12.05 0.127
HOME # 17 Baylor 71 74 -2.33 0.413
HOME # 78 UCF 78 72 +6.65 0.735
AWAY # 32 Cincinnati 64 71 -6.44 0.271
AWAY # 48 West Virginia 65 70 -4.69 0.329
HOME # 4 Iowa St. 71 80 -8.29 0.217
AWAY # 84 Colorado 71 71 +0.03 0.501
HOME # 13 Arizona 75 79 -3.97 0.354
HOME # 94 Kansas St. 76 68 +8.14 0.779
AWAY #103 Oklahoma St. 76 73 +2.59 0.597
AWAY # 16 Texas Tech 69 79 -9.74 0.179
HOME # 74 TCU 71 65 +6.23 0.722
HOME # 3 Houston 60 69 -8.41 0.213
AWAY # 94 Kansas St. 73 72 +1.14 0.543
HOME # 47 BYU 75 73 +2.12 0.579
AWAY # 88 Utah 76 76 +0.47 0.518
AWAY # 13 Arizona 71 82 -10.97 0.150
HOME # 16 Texas Tech 73 75 -2.74 0.398
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3 months 1 week ago #33340
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Thanks, asteroid!
IIRC, the last two times KU has played ASU we saw ASU win, and both times in no small part thanks to the Cognac Kid.
As a result ASU leads the head-to-head competition 6-5.
Lets tie that knot today, JAYHAWKS!
IIRC, the last two times KU has played ASU we saw ASU win, and both times in no small part thanks to the Cognac Kid.
As a result ASU leads the head-to-head competition 6-5.
Lets tie that knot today, JAYHAWKS!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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