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AY2024-25 MBB Recruiting @2024-12-15
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
This Origin Post is updated throughout the year with the latest summary data for Kansas Men's Basketball recruiting as of the date shown in the Subject line. This one post gives the reader a snapshot of the known and rumored status of KUMBB recruiting as of that date. Subsequent posts in this thread will contain later information or comments as events unfold, but the data those posts contain will be summarized in this origin post as appropriate.
For your easy reference, you can click here to see last season's recruiting thread.
And you can click here for information on the NCAA recruiting calendar for the academic year..
Enjoy!
I started this late this time around (November 2024), so a lot of history that might normally be included won’t be this time.
REQUEST TO RCBers
In an effort to keep recruiting information and Q&As easily accessible in one thread, please consider posting your recruiting comments and questions for this recruiting season in this pinned thread. Alternatively I will post a link here to your post in order to keep the recruiting info connected.
Also, if you know of an error or omission, please let me know so I can correct it.
Thank you and ROCK CHALK JAY HAWK K U!
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ACADEMIC YEAR 2024-25 KANSAS JAYHAWKS RECRUITING SYNOPSIS
Sources: Rivals, 247Sports, ESPN and others
National Rank & Ratings used for HS recruits are Rivals.
COMMITTED/SIGNED UPDATED 2024-12-15NOTES and LEGEND for COMMITTED/SIGNED UPDATED 2024-12-15
(1) RSCI: 3; ESPN100: 3/5*; 247sports.com: 3/5*; On3: 5/5*
(2) RSCI: 15; ESPN100: 26/4*; 247sports.com: 20/4* ; On3: 23/4*. Played for Overtime Elite three seasons.
(3) RSCI: -; ESPN100: -; 247sports.com: 67/4* ; On3: 63/4*. Played for Overtime Elite two seasons
(4) Nickens is a dual sport athlete, his primary being football, so his scholarship is counted against Football, making him a Basketball walk-on for scholarship tracking purposes.
^ Transfer with 3 years left to play.
+ Transfer with 2 years left to play
# Transfer with 1 year left to play
& JUCO recruit with 3 years left to play
% JUCO recruit with 2 years left to play
© Eligible for extra Covid year (normal 5 years to play 4 eligibility began AY2020-21 or earlier)
RECRUITING CLASS RANKING UPDATED 2024-12-15
7 - Rivals
4 - 247Sports.com
7 - ESPN.com
6 - On3.com
?? - RSCI (not published until recruiting season is over)
OFFERED (Multiple sources; where available, National Rank & Ratings are Rivals.)
The following list contains only recruits with a reported KANSAS offer (per Rivals, 247Sports, ESPN)
or a listing on JayhawkSlant's "Hoops Hot Board".
(NB: ! after Position indicates recruit is listed on JayhawkSlant's “Hoops Hot Board”; !! means despite no reported offer.)
UPDATED 2024-12-15(Link to the TRANSFER PORTAL 2025 RCB thread once it is begun.)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ACADEMIC YEAR 2024-25 SIGNING PERIODS FOR D1 MEN'S BASKETBALL
Early Signing Period window: .... 2024-11-13 thru 11-20
Regular Signing Period window: 2025-04-16 thru 05-21
Source: NLI Future Signing Dates Prospective Student-Athletes Signing AY2024-25 and Enrolling AY2025-26 .
OTHER IMPORTANT DATES
TRANSFER PORTAL
MONDAY 2025-04-24 through WEDNESDAY 2025-04-22, the last date for ALL PROSPECTIVE transfers to enter the portal and be eligible to play next Fall without an NCAA waiver. The only exception will be for players who experience a coaching change at their current schools. Regardless of the window, they have 30 days after the change takes place to enter the transfer portal.
Source: NCAA D1 Transfer Window Dates 2024-2025 .
NBA DRAFT RELATED
The official dates for the draft lottery and the 2025 NBA Draft have not yet been announced.
SUNDAY 2025-04-dd, 11:59 PM ET: NBA deadline to declare for the 2025-06-dd draft (60 days out)
WEDNESDAY 2025-0m-dd, 11:59 PM ET: NCAA deadline to withdraw from draft and retain eligibility assuming no agent is hired or an NCAA certified agent is hired.*
Date is ten days after the final day of the annual NBA Draft Combine, which is scheduled for
MONDAY May DD through SUNDAY May DD, 2025.
Note this date is NOT the same as the NBA's draft withdrawal deadline (5:00 PM ET 2025-06-dd, 10 days before the NBA draft is held over two days starting on Wednesday 2025-06-dd). (Will be edited to reflect new information with the release of the 2025 NBA Draft Order.)
*With the NCAA rules approved in August 2018, effective with the 2019 NBA Draft players can hire an NCAA certified agent and still return to school.
Sources: (LINKS TO BE UPDATED)
NBA.com: Key Dates 2025
NBA.com: 2025 NBA Draft Order: Picks 1-58
InsideHigherEd.com: 'Committed Change' for Men's Basketball.
DEPARTING & RETURNING AY2024-25 PLAYERS
___________________________________________________________________________________
DEPARTING PLAYERS AFTER AY2024-25 ((S)cholarship, (W)alk-on, *past red shirt)
NB: Due to COVID19, the NCAA approved an additional year of eligibility and another year to use it in for all AY2020-21 players. The first “Super Seniors” did not count against original team scholarship limits for AY2021-22 to give programs some flexibility in transitioning to the new rule. All subsequent year Super Seniors through AY2025-26 (final year for redshirted SSrs) count against roster and scholarship totals. A © indicates a player eligible for an extra Covid year. See RCB: COVID-19 Super Seniors Basic Info for a more through explanation.
GRADUATING “SUPER SENIORS” and SENIORS
SUPER SENIORS (barring transfers in for next AY these will be KU's final COVID-19 eligible members)
C Hunter Dickinson (S)©
G Dajuan Harris Jr* (S)© (graduated May 2024)
G Shakeel Moore (S)©
SENIORS
F KJ Adams Jr (S)
G Patrick Cassidy (W) (graduated May 2024)
G Zeke Mayo (S)
G David Coit (S)
PROJECTED EARLY ENTRANTS (EEs)
None known at post.
TRANSFERRING OUT
None known at post.
OTHER LOSSES
None known at post.
___________________________________________________________________________________
RETURNING PLAYERS and AY2024-25 STATUS by Class ((S)cholarship, (W)alk-on)
SENIORS
G AJ Storr (S)
G Rylan Griffen (S)
F Zach Clemence* (S)
G/F Justin Cross* (W)
F Dillon Wilhite* (W)
JUNIORS
G Jamari McDowell (S)
G Wilder Evers* (W)
G Noah Shelby* (W)
SOPHOMORES
G Elmarko Jackson* (S)
G Rakease Passmore (S)
F Flory Bidunga (S)
G Will Thengvall (W)
RED SHIRT FRESHMEN
NA
SCHOLARSHIPS AVAILABLE UPDATED 2024-11-19
14 (Final installment of the NCAA penalty to be taken AY2025-26, when scholarship and roster limits change to 15 players)
- 7 returning scholarship players (after known EEs/Transfers out)
= 7 openings (after known EEs/Transfers Out)
- 3 new scholarship players (HS recruits, transfers in, upgraded walk-ons?)
∴ 4 scholarships available as of update date
KUMBB used all 13 scholarships for AY2024-25, so the final penalty scholarship loss must be taken in AY2025-26. The changes in scholarship caps and roster limits for AY2025-26 are part of a major settlement agreement involving three lawsuits against the NCAA and the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC: House v. NCAA, Hubbard v. NCAA and Carter v. NCAA. Accordingly, KU will have 14 scholarship players plus 1 walk-on available next AY, then be at a full 15 player roster and 15 scholarships possible starting AY2026-27.
Sources:
SI.com 2022-11-02: Bill Self Suspended Four Games to Start Kansas Basketball Season
NCSA - New NCAA Scholarship and Roster Limits for the 2025-26 School Year
___________________________________________________________________________________
FORMER RECRUITS (Rankings not updated once they are off KU's radar)
For your easy reference, you can click here to see last season's recruiting thread.
And you can click here for information on the NCAA recruiting calendar for the academic year..
Enjoy!
I started this late this time around (November 2024), so a lot of history that might normally be included won’t be this time.
REQUEST TO RCBers
In an effort to keep recruiting information and Q&As easily accessible in one thread, please consider posting your recruiting comments and questions for this recruiting season in this pinned thread. Alternatively I will post a link here to your post in order to keep the recruiting info connected.
Also, if you know of an error or omission, please let me know so I can correct it.
Thank you and ROCK CHALK JAY HAWK K U!
___________________________________________________________________________________
ACADEMIC YEAR 2024-25 KANSAS JAYHAWKS RECRUITING SYNOPSIS
Sources: Rivals, 247Sports, ESPN and others
National Rank & Ratings used for HS recruits are Rivals.
COMMITTED/SIGNED UPDATED 2024-12-15
(Date format is YYYYMMDD)
Pos Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT HOMETOWN COMMITED/SIGNED
SG 3/***** Darryn Peterson(1) 6-5/195 Canton, OH 20241101/20241113
F 21/**** Bryson Tiller(2) 6-10/240 Atlanta, GA 20241116/20241116
F INTL/**** Samis Calderon(3) 6-8/200 Espirito Santo, Brazil 20241113/20241113
TRANSFERS
WALK-ONS
G -/- Nickens, Jaden(4) 6-3/170 Chatsworth, CA 20241114/20241204(FB)
(1) RSCI: 3; ESPN100: 3/5*; 247sports.com: 3/5*; On3: 5/5*
(2) RSCI: 15; ESPN100: 26/4*; 247sports.com: 20/4* ; On3: 23/4*. Played for Overtime Elite three seasons.
(3) RSCI: -; ESPN100: -; 247sports.com: 67/4* ; On3: 63/4*. Played for Overtime Elite two seasons
(4) Nickens is a dual sport athlete, his primary being football, so his scholarship is counted against Football, making him a Basketball walk-on for scholarship tracking purposes.
^ Transfer with 3 years left to play.
+ Transfer with 2 years left to play
# Transfer with 1 year left to play
& JUCO recruit with 3 years left to play
% JUCO recruit with 2 years left to play
© Eligible for extra Covid year (normal 5 years to play 4 eligibility began AY2020-21 or earlier)
RECRUITING CLASS RANKING UPDATED 2024-12-15
7 - Rivals
4 - 247Sports.com
7 - ESPN.com
6 - On3.com
?? - RSCI (not published until recruiting season is over)
OFFERED (Multiple sources; where available, National Rank & Ratings are Rivals.)
The following list contains only recruits with a reported KANSAS offer (per Rivals, 247Sports, ESPN)
or a listing on JayhawkSlant's "Hoops Hot Board".
(NB: ! after Position indicates recruit is listed on JayhawkSlant's “Hoops Hot Board”; !! means despite no reported offer.)
UPDATED 2024-12-15
Pos Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT Hometown
F 4/***** NateAment 6-9/200 Warrenton, VA
F 8/***** KoaPeat 6-8/220 Gilbert, AZ
G 10/***** MikelBrown Jr. 6-4/170 Daytona Beach, FL
G 14/***** BraydenBurries 6-5/185 Corona, CA
G 76/**** TylerJackson 6-1/157 Atlanta , GA
C -/**** AlejandroAviles 6-8/215 Glendale, AZ
C -/- MouhamedSylla 6-10/240 Scottsdale, AZ
NOTES HS & JUCO Recruits
& JUCO recruit with 3 years eligibility left
% JUCO recruit with 2 years eligibility left
GRADUATE & 4 YEAR SCHOOL TRANSFERS BEING RECRUITED
(NB: JUCO Recruits are included in the main OFFERED listing above;
RE = Remaining Eligibility including C-19)
P NAME HT/WT Hometown/College RE KU Visit
See "Transfer Portal information" link at end of this section.
NOTES Graduate & 4 year school transfers
# Graduate transfer, 1 year of eligibility left
^ Transfer with 3 years to play 3 (no COVID-19 year)
+ Transfer with 2 years to play 2 (with COVID-19 year)^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ACADEMIC YEAR 2024-25 SIGNING PERIODS FOR D1 MEN'S BASKETBALL
Early Signing Period window: .... 2024-11-13 thru 11-20
Regular Signing Period window: 2025-04-16 thru 05-21
Source: NLI Future Signing Dates Prospective Student-Athletes Signing AY2024-25 and Enrolling AY2025-26 .
OTHER IMPORTANT DATES
TRANSFER PORTAL
MONDAY 2025-04-24 through WEDNESDAY 2025-04-22, the last date for ALL PROSPECTIVE transfers to enter the portal and be eligible to play next Fall without an NCAA waiver. The only exception will be for players who experience a coaching change at their current schools. Regardless of the window, they have 30 days after the change takes place to enter the transfer portal.
Source: NCAA D1 Transfer Window Dates 2024-2025 .
NBA DRAFT RELATED
The official dates for the draft lottery and the 2025 NBA Draft have not yet been announced.
SUNDAY 2025-04-dd, 11:59 PM ET: NBA deadline to declare for the 2025-06-dd draft (60 days out)
WEDNESDAY 2025-0m-dd, 11:59 PM ET: NCAA deadline to withdraw from draft and retain eligibility assuming no agent is hired or an NCAA certified agent is hired.*
Date is ten days after the final day of the annual NBA Draft Combine, which is scheduled for
MONDAY May DD through SUNDAY May DD, 2025.
Note this date is NOT the same as the NBA's draft withdrawal deadline (5:00 PM ET 2025-06-dd, 10 days before the NBA draft is held over two days starting on Wednesday 2025-06-dd). (Will be edited to reflect new information with the release of the 2025 NBA Draft Order.)
*With the NCAA rules approved in August 2018, effective with the 2019 NBA Draft players can hire an NCAA certified agent and still return to school.
Sources: (LINKS TO BE UPDATED)
NBA.com: Key Dates 2025
NBA.com: 2025 NBA Draft Order: Picks 1-58
InsideHigherEd.com: 'Committed Change' for Men's Basketball.
DEPARTING & RETURNING AY2024-25 PLAYERS
___________________________________________________________________________________
DEPARTING PLAYERS AFTER AY2024-25 ((S)cholarship, (W)alk-on, *past red shirt)
NB: Due to COVID19, the NCAA approved an additional year of eligibility and another year to use it in for all AY2020-21 players. The first “Super Seniors” did not count against original team scholarship limits for AY2021-22 to give programs some flexibility in transitioning to the new rule. All subsequent year Super Seniors through AY2025-26 (final year for redshirted SSrs) count against roster and scholarship totals. A © indicates a player eligible for an extra Covid year. See RCB: COVID-19 Super Seniors Basic Info for a more through explanation.
GRADUATING “SUPER SENIORS” and SENIORS
SUPER SENIORS (barring transfers in for next AY these will be KU's final COVID-19 eligible members)
C Hunter Dickinson (S)©
G Dajuan Harris Jr* (S)© (graduated May 2024)
G Shakeel Moore (S)©
SENIORS
F KJ Adams Jr (S)
G Patrick Cassidy (W) (graduated May 2024)
G Zeke Mayo (S)
G David Coit (S)
PROJECTED EARLY ENTRANTS (EEs)
None known at post.
TRANSFERRING OUT
None known at post.
OTHER LOSSES
None known at post.
___________________________________________________________________________________
RETURNING PLAYERS and AY2024-25 STATUS by Class ((S)cholarship, (W)alk-on)
SENIORS
G AJ Storr (S)
G Rylan Griffen (S)
F Zach Clemence* (S)
G/F Justin Cross* (W)
F Dillon Wilhite* (W)
JUNIORS
G Jamari McDowell (S)
G Wilder Evers* (W)
G Noah Shelby* (W)
SOPHOMORES
G Elmarko Jackson* (S)
G Rakease Passmore (S)
F Flory Bidunga (S)
G Will Thengvall (W)
RED SHIRT FRESHMEN
NA
SCHOLARSHIPS AVAILABLE UPDATED 2024-11-19
14 (Final installment of the NCAA penalty to be taken AY2025-26, when scholarship and roster limits change to 15 players)
- 7 returning scholarship players (after known EEs/Transfers out)
= 7 openings (after known EEs/Transfers Out)
- 3 new scholarship players (HS recruits, transfers in, upgraded walk-ons?)
∴ 4 scholarships available as of update date
KUMBB used all 13 scholarships for AY2024-25, so the final penalty scholarship loss must be taken in AY2025-26. The changes in scholarship caps and roster limits for AY2025-26 are part of a major settlement agreement involving three lawsuits against the NCAA and the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC: House v. NCAA, Hubbard v. NCAA and Carter v. NCAA. Accordingly, KU will have 14 scholarship players plus 1 walk-on available next AY, then be at a full 15 player roster and 15 scholarships possible starting AY2026-27.
Sources:
SI.com 2022-11-02: Bill Self Suspended Four Games to Start Kansas Basketball Season
NCSA - New NCAA Scholarship and Roster Limits for the 2025-26 School Year
___________________________________________________________________________________
FORMER RECRUITS (Rankings not updated once they are off KU's radar)
HIGH SCHOOL
P Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT Hometown/HS Decision
OTHER NOTES (Reclassified, etc.)"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Last Edit: 1 week 4 days ago by HawkErrant. Reason: added undecided OFFEREDs; put COMMITTED/SIGNED and OFFEREDs first, then Important Dates, Departing and Returning Players and Available Scholarships
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1 month 1 week ago - 1 month 1 week ago #33154
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
The Origin Post shell is posted without the names of the three signees to date.
Men's Hoops Signs Consensus #3 recruit CG Darryn Peterson
Men's Hoops Signs Brazilian recruit F Samis Calderon
5 star PF Bryson Tiller signs with KANSAS
I'll be adding them and other Kansas recruits to the summary OP after dinner.
Tomorrow (November 20, 2024) is the end of the early signing period for D1 Men's Basketball.
Men's Hoops Signs Consensus #3 recruit CG Darryn Peterson
Men's Hoops Signs Brazilian recruit F Samis Calderon
5 star PF Bryson Tiller signs with KANSAS
I'll be adding them and other Kansas recruits to the summary OP after dinner.
Tomorrow (November 20, 2024) is the end of the early signing period for D1 Men's Basketball.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
hoshi: Shelby Noah plus
Talking scholarships and walk-ons
Talking scholarships and walk-ons
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by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
The thread origin post has been updated to add a fourth 2025 signee, dual sport athlete Jaden Nickens (6-3/170).
Per NCAA rules his scholarship will count against football, not men's basketball, so he will be treated as a walk-on for hoops purposes.
https://kuathletics.com/sports/football/roster/jaden-nickens/16093
To hopefully make it easier to read and maintain, I have also reformatted the post into the following section order -
Opening Explanation of the Origin post. including a link to last year's recruiting thread.
RECRUITING SYNOPSIS
- COMMITTED/SIGNED including player and class rankings as of edit date.
- OFFERED includes undecided recruits with reported offers from KU. Those who opt to go elsewhere will then be moved to
Former Recruits at the end of the post.
IMPORTANT DATES
- Signing periods
- Other important dates (e.g., transfer portal and early entry dates)
DEPARTING & RETURNING AY2024-25 PLAYERS
- Projected losses
- Projected returnees
- Available Scholarships count
FORMER RECRUITS
A table to hold previously listed offerees who opt to go elsewhere
Same info, just rearranged to to try to create a more helpful reading order.
Hope you like the new arrangement.
Per NCAA rules his scholarship will count against football, not men's basketball, so he will be treated as a walk-on for hoops purposes.
https://kuathletics.com/sports/football/roster/jaden-nickens/16093
To hopefully make it easier to read and maintain, I have also reformatted the post into the following section order -
Opening Explanation of the Origin post. including a link to last year's recruiting thread.
RECRUITING SYNOPSIS
- COMMITTED/SIGNED including player and class rankings as of edit date.
- OFFERED includes undecided recruits with reported offers from KU. Those who opt to go elsewhere will then be moved to
Former Recruits at the end of the post.
IMPORTANT DATES
- Signing periods
- Other important dates (e.g., transfer portal and early entry dates)
DEPARTING & RETURNING AY2024-25 PLAYERS
- Projected losses
- Projected returnees
- Available Scholarships count
FORMER RECRUITS
A table to hold previously listed offerees who opt to go elsewhere
Same info, just rearranged to to try to create a more helpful reading order.
Hope you like the new arrangement.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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