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initial season projection
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3 weeks 6 days ago #33059
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Pomeroy is out with his starting ratings, so we can perform an initial season
projection based on those ratings. It calls for a 22-9 record. Projected
losses include the Duke game in Las Vegas, the Creighton, Cincinnati,
Iowa State, Baylor, and Houston road games, plus the Houston home game.
The projected Cincinnati and Iowa State losses would be consecutive.
Wait a minute! That's only 7 projected losses. So why a projected record
of 22-9??? Every year that I haven't explained this situation right off the bat,
somebody asks about it. It has to do with the laws of probability and statistics.
If you have two nearly equal teams, say one with a rating of 51 and another
with a rating of 49, and you have them play each other 100 times on a neutral
court, the team with the rating of 51 would be favored to win EVERY SINGLE
GAME! Of course; it's the higher rated team. But in reality, that team would
likely win only 51 percent of the time, for a record of 51-49. That is, you're
only going to win toss-up games half the time. You really have to look at the
probability of victory in each game and add all those probabilities together to
determine the projected season record. Do that with the probabilities shown
below and you'll get 22 wins out of a 31 game season. The road game with
BYU is a projected win, but by just a fraction of a point. That could easily be
one of those statistical losses.
Houston is Pomeroy's #1 team, and by enough that the home court advantage
won't be enough to prevent KU from being the underdog in the home game with
Houston. KU will play #1 twice, home and away, #2 once on a neutral court,
#7 twice, home and away, #8 at home, #11 on the road, #12 on the road, #14
at home, #15 on the road, #17 on the road, and #21 on the road. That's 12
games against the Top 25. Another monster schedule.
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #214 Howard 87 61 +25.35 0.992
HOME # 14 North Carolina 78 73 +5.20 0.688
NEUT # 35 Michigan St. 73 67 +5.44 0.696
HOME #173 Oakland 83 61 +22.25 0.982
HOME #154 UNC Wilmington 82 61 +21.04 0.977
NEUT # 2 Duke 71 73 -1.62 0.439
HOME #165 Furman 84 62 +22.30 0.982
AWAY # 12 Creighton 73 75 -2.53 0.405
AWAY # 53 Missouri 75 71 +3.94 0.645
HOME # 52 N.C. State 79 68 +11.03 0.851
HOME #243 Brown 87 60 +26.48 0.994
HOME # 87 West Virginia 80 66 +14.59 0.916
AWAY # 66 UCF 75 70 +5.59 0.701
HOME # 71 Arizona St. 80 66 +13.51 0.899
AWAY # 17 Cincinnati 72 73 -0.35 0.487
AWAY # 7 Iowa St. 69 73 -3.50 0.370
HOME # 49 Kansas St. 76 66 +10.60 0.842
AWAY # 58 TCU 76 71 +4.86 0.677
HOME # 1 Houston 69 69 -0.16 0.494
HOME # 66 UCF 79 66 +12.59 0.883
AWAY # 11 Baylor 72 74 -2.62 0.402
HOME # 7 Iowa St. 73 69 +3.50 0.630
AWAY # 49 Kansas St. 73 69 +3.60 0.633
HOME # 80 Colorado 80 65 +14.15 0.909
AWAY # 82 Utah 77 69 +7.43 0.759
AWAY # 21 BYU 74 74 +0.43 0.516
HOME # 89 Oklahoma St. 82 66 +15.32 0.926
AWAY # 80 Colorado 76 69 +7.15 0.750
HOME # 15 Texas Tech 72 67 +5.24 0.690
AWAY # 1 Houston 65 73 -7.16 0.249
HOME # 8 Arizona 79 75 +4.05 0.649
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3 weeks 6 days ago #33061
by Bayhawk
The end is nothing; the road is all.
-- Jules Michelet
To clarify all the mystery surrounding the statistics, it comes down to this:
In a 50% - 50% game, each team is 100% certain to win or lose!
Seriously, I HATE being the underdog against Puke. Cal Bear wife and I will be at the game to tip the odds back in our favor
RCJHFL
In a 50% - 50% game, each team is 100% certain to win or lose!
Seriously, I HATE being the underdog against Puke. Cal Bear wife and I will be at the game to tip the odds back in our favor
RCJHFL
The end is nothing; the road is all.
-- Jules Michelet
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3 weeks 5 days ago #33062
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"I HATE being the underdog against Puke."
That's only according to Pomeroy. In the AP poll, KU is #1, so we'd be favored against Puke, Las Vegas being a neutral court and all. We'd also be favored against Houston in AFH. Whether we'll be underdogs in those projected road losses depends on how much the ranking difference translates into points.
That's only according to Pomeroy. In the AP poll, KU is #1, so we'd be favored against Puke, Las Vegas being a neutral court and all. We'd also be favored against Houston in AFH. Whether we'll be underdogs in those projected road losses depends on how much the ranking difference translates into points.
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3 weeks 5 days ago #33064
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Both AP and Pomeroy are based on...wait, let me count...ZERO games! I don't really care about ranking or whose favored until committee time. To quote the world's posted hated team owner, "Just win Baby"
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