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8 months 3 days ago #32504
by asteroid
Well, finally the Big 12 is off the schneid. The kittens lost to Iowa
on Tuesday, and Central Florida lost to South Florida, also on Tuesday.
Cincinnati seemed to have their game against San Francisco in hand with
a 9 point lead and less than 3 minutes to play, but the Dons managed
to force overtime when a missed Bearcat free throw enabled a tying
trey. But the Bearcats managed their own trey with seconds remaining
in overtime to take a one-point lead that survived a missed half-court
buzzer beater.
BYU, Texas Tech, Texas, and Iowa State all play earlier than Kansas
on Thursday, so maybe the Big 12 can assert its dominance by the time
the Jayhawks take the court in Salt Lake City.
Samford has played only one Top 25 team, and that was in their season
opener at Purdue, where they lost by 53 points. Samford has played
only one other Top 100 team, and that was in their second game at VCU,
where they lost by 10. Samford has played only two other teams in the
top tier (top third) of Division I, beating #108 Western Carolina twice,
at home by 26 and on the road by 4, and also beating #113 Belmont at
home by 6. So those would be considered their best wins. Of course,
by now they must be playing with greater confidence than when they
opened their season at Purdue. Will they be intimidated by playing
Kansas?
Some people have raised the issue of Salt Lake City's altitude. First
of all, it's not that high; we'll have worse to deal with when Colorado
rejoins the Big 12. Second, both teams will be faced with the same
issue. The smart thing to do is get there early and start to acclimate.
Where we start to see some concern is with three-point shooting.
Samford is #7 in all of Division I in three-point shooting percentage
at 39.32 percent. Of course, that wouldn't matter if they shot a low
volume of treys. Unfortunately, they are also #7 in all of Division I
in volume, attempting 852 threes. But are they a Timberlake kind of
three-point shooting team, namely shooting a decent percentage against
weaker opposition, but doing considerably worse against stronger
opposition? They shot only 16 percent from long distance against Purdue.
Plus, Kansas has faced other teams that shoot the three well; Kentucky
is #1 at 41.19 percent, and we beat them; Baylor is #9 at 38.80 percent
and we split with them; UConn is #34 at 36.69 percent, and we beat them.
The problem has been with teams that normally don't shoot the three very
well, but get hot against the Jayhawks, as if Kansas was playing down
to the level of the opposition.
Of course, as you can well imagine, the outcome of this game depends
heavily on the status of Dickinson. McCullar is out, ostensibly for
the entire tournament, after hints being dropped prior to Selection
Sunday that the Jayhawks would be at full strength by the time of the
NCAA Tournament. Is it possible that the pain will subside by the
final weekend, enabling him to play if Kansas can survive and advance
to the Final Four? Sounds like Self may be taking the "all or nothing"
motivational approach. And while the media statements about Dickinson
being much better off than originally feared, it's hard for me to
imagine him being 100 percent by the time of this game. Even if the
doctors declare him 100 percent physically, there is always the question
about being 100 percent mentally. Might he play less physically in an
attempt to protect his shoulder? How hard would it be to re-injure?
Popped out once, does that make it easier to pop out a second time?
Rumor has it that Hunter has had this particular injury before, in
which case he may be in a good position to know what to expect.
We saw Vegas take the injuries into account in their prediction for
the Cincinnati game, picking the Bearcats to win, when all the other
computer rankings that had no idea about the injuries picked Kansas to
win. The Vegas line has moved from 7.5 points in favor of Kansas when
I compiled all the various predictions prior to Self's announcement, to
just 7.0 points as of a moment ago, after Self's announcement. That's
a bit of a surprise; is McCullar only worth a half point???
The pessimist is Dunkel, who is predicting Kansas to lose by 1, followed
by Colley, who is expecting a one-possession affair, but is favoring the
Jayhawks. The optimist is the BPI, who has Kansas by 11.5 points, and
that hasn't changed since yesterday. The weirdest prediction comes
from RealTime, who has Samford ranked #23 and Kansas ranked #31. One
might expect that Samford would therefore be favored on a neutral court,
but instead RealTime has Kansas by 9. Go figure. Yet more evidence for
why I think RealTime isn't ready for PrimeTime.
The word is that Samford likes to press. That could be good news for
Kansas, as the Jayhawks excel in transition, so with some crisp passing,
a strength of the team, beating the press ought to lead to a bunch of
easy two pointers. Kansas also has a size advantage; Dickinson ought
to be able to score in the paint with regularity. So the Jayhawks
just need to defend the arc.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats Sam KU Defensive Stats Sam KU
Points/Game 84.3 75.0 Opp Points/Game 74.4 69.1
Avg Score Margin +10.0 +5.9 Opp Effective FG % 50.0 47.6
Assists/Game 17.0 18.5 Off Rebounds/Gm 8.3 7.2
Total Rebounds/Gm 35.4 35.6 Def Rebounds/Gm 23.4 25.4
Effective FG % 56.9 53.4 Blocks/Game 3.8 3.9
Off Rebound % 27.4 24.1 Steals/Game 9.5 7.2
FTA/FGA 0.364 0.328 Personal Fouls/Gm 19.0 14.7
Turnover % 16.0 14.7
My Stats Comparison KU Sam
=================== ============= ============
performance +0.96 +0.54
inconsistency 12.80 12.06
trend -0.35 ± 0.25 +0.08 ± 0.23
mental toughness -0.21 ± 0.24 -0.56 ± 0.23
average total pts 144.19 158.72
Common Opponents
================
There are no common opponents.
Players to Watch
================
most minutes Rylan Jones (guard)
most points Achor Achor (forward)
most rebounds Achor Achor (forward)
most assists Rylan Jones (guard)
most steals A.J. Staton-McCray (guard)
most blocks Achor Achor (forward)
most turnovers Achor Achor (forward)
most fouls Jermaine Marshall (forward)
I might take these with a grain of salt, as it appears that Greenfield has a
serious bug in their database, based on the fact that the Kansas player with the
most minutes is Charlie McCarthy with 37.00, the Kansas player with the most
points is Charlie McCarthy with 34.00, and the Kansas player with the most steals
is Charlie McCarthy with 2.00. "To err is humnan; to really screw up takes a
computer."
22-10 29-5
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Samford
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Massey +11.00 81 70 83 # 13 # 6 # 85 #228
Pomeroy +6.88 82 75 74.2 # 22 # 5 # 81 #247
Greenfield +7.50 80 72.5 # 18 # 10 # 96 #176
Dunkel -1.00 72 73 # 78 # 33
Vegas (via Dunkel) +7.00 80 73
Dolphin Predictive +10.29 84 74 80.6 # 24 # 7 # 96 #180
Real Time +9.00 72 63 64.0 # 31 # 9 # 23 #239
Seven Overtimes +7.00 79 72 59 # 16 # 8 # 44 #233
DPPI +3.90 78 74 60.2 # 16 # 5 # 92 #226
ESPN BPI +11.50 83.7 # 20 # 5 # 96 #299
Whitlock +4.11 # 22 # 12 # 66 #230
Colley Matrix +2.69 # 22 # 7 # 44 #213
Donchess +10.10 83 73 82.7 # 17 # 5 #100 #228
Haslametrics +9.66 83 73 # 24 #104
INCCStats +7.00 83 76 76 # 20 # 90
common opponents
NCAA NET # 19 # 74
LRMC # 25 # 11 #108 #236
Massey composite # 18 # 75
Pomeroy offense # 65 # 69
Pomeroy defense # 10 #116
Pomeroy tempo # 92 # 14
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +7.11 79.8 72.4 73.7
scatter 3.47 4.1 3.3 10.1
Here is Kansas' season:
CUMU.
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB. PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- ----- -----
HOME #254 North Carolina Central 99 56 +20.90 +22.10
HOME #337 Manhattan 99 61 +28.51 +9.49
NEUT # 19 Kentucky 89 84 -0.59 +5.59
Div2 Chaminade 83 56
NEUT # 12 Marquette 59 73 -2.44 -11.56
NEUT # 7 Tennessee 69 60 -4.75 +13.75
HOME #320 Eastern Illinois 71 63 +25.57 -17.57
HOME # 1 Connecticut 69 65 -4.98 +8.98
HOME #212 UMKC 88 69 +18.96 +0.04
HOME #150 Missouri 73 64 +15.34 -6.34
AWAY # 93 Indiana 75 71 +3.76 +0.24
HOME # 84 Yale 75 60 +9.89 +5.11
NEUT #155 Wichita St. 86 67 +12.35 +6.65
HOME # 33 TCU 83 81 +4.84 -2.84
AWAY # 61 UCF 60 65 +0.85 -5.85
HOME # 43 Oklahoma 78 66 +5.60 +6.40
AWAY #115 Oklahoma St. 90 66 +5.91 +18.09
AWAY #144 West Virginia 85 91 +8.18 -14.18
HOME # 37 Cincinnati 74 69 +5.13 -0.13
AWAY # 5 Iowa St. 75 79 -8.67 +4.67
HOME #115 Oklahoma St. 83 54 +12.91 +16.09
HOME # 2 Houston 78 65 -4.56 +17.56
AWAY # 68 Kansas St. 70 75 +1.40 -6.40
HOME # 14 Baylor 64 61 +1.44 +1.56
AWAY # 24 Texas Tech 50 79 -3.03 -25.97
AWAY # 43 Oklahoma 67 57 -1.40 +11.40
HOME # 27 Texas 86 67 +4.04 +14.96
HOME # 16 BYU 68 76 +2.24 -10.24
AWAY # 14 Baylor 74 82 -5.56 -2.44
HOME # 68 Kansas St. 90 68 +8.40 +13.60
AWAY # 2 Houston 46 76 -11.56 -18.44
NEUT # 37 Cincinnati 52 75 +1.63 -24.63
NEUT # 81 Samford 82 75 +6.88 0.742 0.742
NEUT # 15 Gonzaga 75 77 -1.68 0.437 0.324
NEUT # 3 Purdue 71 78 -6.74 0.262 0.085
NEUT # 7 Tennessee 69 74 -4.75 0.327 0.028
NEUT # 2 Houston 61 69 -8.06 0.223 0.006
NEUT # 1 Connecticut 67 75 -8.48 0.212 0.001
Here is Samford's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
AWAY # 3 Purdue 45 98 -17.34 -35.66
AWAY # 80 VCU 65 75 -3.71 -6.29
Div2 Mississippi College 96 52
HOME #301 South Carolina St. 89 72 +18.64 -1.64
HOME #314 Alabama St. 99 67 +19.64 +12.36
HOME #215 Merrimack 79 71 +13.38 -5.38
HOME #346 North Carolina A&T 101 83 +24.49 -6.49
HOME #152 Louisiana 88 65 +9.56 +13.44
Div3 LaGrange 128 82
HOME #327 Alabama A&M 118 91 +22.30 +4.70
HOME #113 Belmont 99 93 +6.82 -0.82
AWAY #298 Valparaiso 79 61 +11.37 +6.63
AWAY #277 Texas Southern 87 65 +9.55 +12.45
HOME #140 Chattanooga 89 74 +8.70 +6.30
AWAY #258 The Citadel 80 64 +8.21 +7.79
HOME #148 UNC Greensboro 79 70 +9.09 -0.09
HOME #354 VMI 134 96 +28.59 +9.41
AWAY #108 Western Carolina 75 71 -0.58 +4.58
HOME #214 Mercer 87 80 +13.20 -6.20
AWAY #141 Furman 68 78 +1.97 -11.97
AWAY #175 East Tennessee St. 75 72 +4.20 -1.20
HOME #193 Wofford 81 79 +12.16 -10.16
AWAY #140 Chattanooga 78 56 +1.70 +20.30
AWAY #148 UNC Greensboro 78 69 +2.09 +6.91
AWAY #354 VMI 102 63 +21.59 +17.41
HOME #108 Western Carolina 88 62 +6.42 +19.58
AWAY #214 Mercer 84 88 +6.20 -10.20
HOME #141 Furman 74 72 +8.97 -6.97
HOME #175 East Tennessee St. 87 71 +11.20 +4.80
AWAY #193 Wofford 69 91 +5.16 -27.16
HOME #258 The Citadel 92 80 +15.21 -3.21
NEUT #214 Mercer 70 57 +9.70 +3.30
NEUT #141 Furman 84 77 +5.47 +1.53
NEUT #175 East Tennessee St. 76 69 +7.70 -0.70
NEUT # 22 Kansas 75 82 -6.88 0.258
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