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9 months 2 weeks ago #32183
by asteroid
Trap game? Coming off a big win over Houston, and we have Baylor coming to town
next weekend, along with College Gameday. Kansas State is among the four teams
at the bottom of the conference in the projected standings, but Kansas has already
lost on the road to two of them. Holding serve at home is something the Jayhawks
have managed to do so far, but picking up road wins has proven to be a struggle.
If Kansas wants to win the Big 12, they need at least a couple more road wins, and
this one is the easiest of the bunch on paper.
However, Kansas State has played below expectation in their last three games, and
came within a fraction of a point of doing so in its last five games. Meanwhile,
Kansas is coming off of two above expectation performance, both greater than a
standard deviation above. Coincides with Furphy getting comfortable in his role.
He can stroke the three, grab rebounds, drive to the basket, dunk, and fly down
the court in transition; just needs to become a defensive juggernaut.
I've been up all night chasing killer asteroids, so I'll keep this short so that
I can get some sleep before tip-off. All the usual prognosticators are picking
Kansas to win the game, though RealTime, Whitlock, and Colley all have it down
in the one-point nail-biter range. Dunkel is the optimist, putting the margin
at a comfortable 11.5 points, though Dunkel's predictions haven't been doing too
well compared to the competition. The average is 4.8 points with a scatter of
2.6 points.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
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Offensive Stats KSU KU Defensive Stats KSU KU
Points/Game 72.0 79.0 Opp Points/Game 68.7 68.0
Avg Score Margin +3.4 +10.9 Opp Effective FG % 46.1 46.2
Assists/Game 14.4 20.3 Off Rebounds/Gm 10.2 7.4
Total Rebounds/Gm 37.5 36.9 Def Rebounds/Gm 23.5 26.5
Effective FG % 49.8 56.8 Blocks/Game 4.5 4.2
Off Rebound % 33.0 26.3 Steals/Game 6.7 7.1
FTA/FGA 0.356 0.323 Personal Fouls/Gm 17.1 14.5
Turnover % 18.3 15.1
My Stats Comparison KU KSU
=================== ============= ============
performance +0.81 +0.22
inconsistency 10.89 11.94
trend +0.10 ± 0.40 -0.05 ± 0.41
mental toughness +0.09 ± 0.24 -0.03 ± 0.27
average total pts 147.00 140.73
Common Opponents
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There are seven common opponents, six in conference and Wichita State, one of
which both teams have played twice, so only the home-home and road-road
permtuations will be considered, giving us eight scores to compare:
KU +19 WSU neutral (+19 neutral court)
KSU +9 WSU neutral ( +9 neutral court)
KU +7 KSU on road (+10 neutral court)
KU -5 UCF on road ( -2 neutral court)
KSU +25 UCF at home (+22 neutral court)
KU -27 KSU on road (-24 neutral court)
KU -6 WVU on road ( -3 neutral court)
KSU +14 WVU on road (+17 neutral court)
KU -23 KSU on road (-20 neutral court)
KU +29 OSU at home (+26 neutral court) KU +24 OSU on road (+27 neutral court)
KSU +4 OSU at home ( +1 neutral court) KSU -3 OSU on road ( 0 neutral court)
KU +22 KSU on road (+25 neutral court) KU +24 KSU on road (+27 neutral court)
KU -4 ISU on road ( -1 neutral court)
KSU -11 ISU on road ( -8 neutral court)
KU +4 KSU on road ( +7 neutral court)
KU +13 UH at home (+10 neutral court)
KSU -22 UH on road (-19 neutral court)
KU +26 KSU on road (+29 neutral court)
KU +12 OU at home ( +9 neutral court)
KSU -20 OU at home (-23 neutral court)
KU +29 KSU on road (+32 neutral court)
Two of the comparisons favor Kansas State while the other five favor Kansas.
The average is 7.75 points in favor of Kansas, despite the UCF and West Virginia
comparisons, with a scatter of a whopping 22.10 points.
Players to Watch
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most minutes Tylor Perry (guard)
most points Cam Carter (guard)
most rebounds Arthur Kaluma (forward)
most assists Tylor Perry (guard)
most steals Cam Carter (guard)
most blocks William McNair (forward)
most turnovers Arthur Kaluma (forward)
most fouls Cam Carter (guard)
Reserve guard Ques Glover is out for the season following knee surgery.
Reserve forward David N'Guessan has a knee injury and is questionable; he is
fourth on the team in minutes played and points scored per game.
I might take these with a grain of salt, as it appears that Greenfield has a
serious bug in their database, based on the fact that the Kansas player with the
most minutes is Charlie McCarthy with 37.00, the Kansas player with the most
points is Charlie McCarthy with 34.00, and the Kansas player with the most steals
is Charlie McCarthy with 2.00. "To err is humnan; to really screw up takes a
computer."
18-4 14-8
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Kansas State
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Massey +4.00 72 68 64 # 4 # 12 # 55 # 24
Pomeroy +4.73 73 68 67.3 # 12 # 15 # 75 # 48
Greenfield +4.50 75 70 # 13 # 10 # 66 # 47
Dunkel +11.50 80 69 # 8 # 57
Vegas (via Dunkel) +4.50 74 70
Dolphin Predictive +4.74 73 68 66.2 # 13 # 10 # 73 # 53
Real Time +1.00 77 76 51.7 # 6 # 14 #111 # 54
Seven Overtimes +4.00 74 70 64 # 7 # 14 #107 # 26
DPPI +5.00 74.5 70 63.3 # 11 # 13 # 74 # 39
ESPN BPI +4.50 66.8 # 15 # 17 # 62 # 39
Whitlock +1.33 # 19 # 37 # 71 # 44
Colley Matrix +1.38 # 12 # 28 # 52 # 71
Donchess +4.90 75 70 65.8 # 9 # 16 # 63 # 47
Haslametrics +6.79 73 67 # 13 # 91
INCCStats +6.00 74 68 70 # 9 # 68
common opponents +7.75
NCAA NET # 10 # 83
LRMC # # # #
Massey composite # 8 # 74
Pomeroy offense # 17 #155
Pomeroy defense # 19 # 26
Pomeroy tempo #107 #231
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +4.79 74.5 69.5 64.3
scatter 2.57 2.2 2.3 5.2
Here is Kansas' season, with a projected record of 23-8:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #246 North Carolina Central 99 56 +22.72 +20.28
HOME #331 Manhattan 99 61 +30.65 +7.35
NEUT # 27 Kentucky 89 84 +3.51 +1.49
Div2 Chaminade 83 56
NEUT # 11 Marquette 59 73 -0.28 -13.72
NEUT # 6 Tennessee 69 60 -2.79 +11.79
HOME #328 Eastern Illinois 71 63 +28.74 -20.74
HOME # 3 Connecticut 69 65 -0.35 +4.35
HOME #272 UMKC 88 69 +24.38 -5.38
HOME #125 Missouri 73 64 +16.19 -7.19
AWAY # 99 Indiana 75 71 +7.04 -3.04
HOME # 85 Yale 75 60 +12.21 +2.79
NEUT #158 Wichita St. 86 67 +15.57 +3.43
HOME # 29 TCU 83 81 +7.18 -5.18
AWAY # 69 UCF 60 65 +4.02 -9.02
HOME # 25 Oklahoma 78 66 +6.65 +5.35
AWAY #123 Oklahoma St. 90 66 +9.04 +14.96
AWAY #136 West Virginia 85 91 +9.99 -15.99
HOME # 30 Cincinnati 74 69 +7.11 -2.11
AWAY # 14 Iowa St. 75 79 -3.08 -0.92
HOME #123 Oklahoma St. 83 54 +16.04 +12.96
HOME # 1 Houston 78 65 -2.56 +15.56
AWAY # 75 Kansas St. 73 68 +4.73 0.673
HOME # 16 Baylor 78 74 +4.43 0.662
AWAY # 32 Texas Tech 75 75 +0.30 0.511
AWAY # 25 Oklahoma 73 74 -0.35 0.487
HOME # 26 Texas 78 71 +6.66 0.735
HOME # 9 BYU 78 76 +2.53 0.594
AWAY # 16 Baylor 75 77 -2.57 0.404
HOME # 75 Kansas St. 76 65 +11.73 0.866
AWAY # 1 Houston 62 72 -9.56 0.183
Here is Kansas State's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 92 USC 69 82 +1.48 -14.48
HOME #308 Bellarmine 83 75 +17.46 -9.46
HOME #168 South Dakota St. 91 68 +11.00 +12.00
NEUT # 56 Providence 73 70 -2.01 +5.01
NEUT # 66 Miami FL 83 91 -1.16 -6.84
HOME #342 Central Arkansas 100 56 +23.07 +20.93
HOME #214 Oral Roberts 88 78 +13.21 -3.21
HOME #245 North Alabama 75 74 +14.50 -13.50
HOME # 39 Villanova 72 71 -0.15 +1.15
AWAY # 79 LSU 75 60 -3.22 +18.22
HOME # 46 Nebraska 46 62 +0.63 -16.63
NEUT #158 Wichita St. 69 60 +6.87 +2.13
HOME #287 Chicago St. 62 55 +16.14 -9.14
HOME # 69 UCF 77 52 +2.63 +22.37
AWAY #136 West Virginia 81 67 +1.40 +12.60
AWAY # 32 Texas Tech 59 60 -7.69 +6.69
HOME # 16 Baylor 68 64 -3.47 +7.47
HOME #123 Oklahoma St. 70 66 +7.64 -3.64
AWAY # 14 Iowa St. 67 78 -11.30 +0.30
AWAY # 1 Houston 52 74 -16.89 -5.11
HOME # 25 Oklahoma 53 73 -1.54 -18.46
AWAY #123 Oklahoma St. 72 75 +0.64 -3.64
HOME # 12 Kansas 68 73 -4.73 0.327
AWAY # 9 BYU 65 78 -12.67 0.116
HOME # 29 TCU 72 73 -1.30 0.451
AWAY # 26 Texas 65 73 -8.38 0.214
HOME # 9 BYU 68 74 -5.67 0.296
HOME #136 West Virginia 73 64 +8.40 0.786
AWAY # 30 Cincinnati 63 71 -8.06 0.223
AWAY # 12 Kansas 65 76 -11.73 0.134
HOME # 14 Iowa St. 66 70 -4.30 0.342
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9 months 2 weeks ago #32187
by hairyhawk
This has me worried. So far this season the Jayhawks do not have a very good record when they go on the road and are favored by all the prognosticators. Hopefully they can be fully engaged and the grapes don't go from a 30% 3 point fg% team to a 60% 3 point fg% team for this 1 game.
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