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10 months 1 week ago #31984
by asteroid
If you look at that one game in isolation, a statistician would say "Hey,
UCF had a 30 to 40 percent chance of winning, so it's not that surprising
that they actually won the game." If you look at it from the University's
perspective, you might think that there is only so much basketball karma
to spread around, and on Wednesday it was the women's team that had it,
knocking off a highly ranked Baylor squad. But if you look at it from
the perspective of trying to win the Big 12 conference, starting out 3.6
projected wins behind Houston, you have to win some of those close games
to cut into that deficit, and the Jayhawks failed to do so. Now the
projected conference record is just 10-8, whereas Houston's projected
record is 14-4. We do play Houston twice, so half of that deficit in
under direct control, but we need to win four toss-up games to make up
the rest of that difference. As I said last time, I wouldn't want to
hang my hat on just one conference game, in which UCF looked bad; it
will have to wait until later in the season to find out just how good
or bad the Knights are. How big an effect Dickinson's knee had is also
unclear. Looking baffled by the zone is a correctable problem, however.
Developing the bench is more challenging. Rumor has it that Furphy will
start instead of Jackson against Oklahoma.
At least we're back in the friendly confines of Allen Field House,
whereas Houston remains on the road against a decent TCU team.
Oklahoma is looking a lot stronger this season compared to last season.
Their two losses have come against North Carolina on a neutral court and
on the road to TCU. They've beaten Top 100 opponents Iowa State,
Providence, Iowa, USC, and Arkansas. Not too shabby. Pomeroy offense
ratings are virtually identical, as are the defense ratings. Curiously,
Pomeroy has Kansas with a significantly higher tempo rating than Oklahoma,
yet both teams average 145 total point games. Trends are similar; mental
toughness ratings are similar. Pomeroy has the teams ranked adjacent to
one another. One might expect it to be a toss-up game on a neutral court.
We will play in Norman later in the season, and we're currently projected
to lose that game by 3 points. But in The Phog, we're favored by 4.
Wait a minute, as cold as it is forecast to be, wouldn't Phog be ice
crystals? Lucky we're indoors; I pity those poor Chiefs fans.
Dunkel is the most optimistic of the usual prognosticators, picking
Kansas to win by 10.5 points. The pessimist is the DPPI, which has
the Jayhawks winning by only 2.6 points. The average is 5.8 points,
with a scatter of 2.1 points.
I've been waiting for Dunkel, who finally posted his prediction. Now
it's time to get some shuteye before tip-off.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats OU KU Defensive Stats OU KU
Points/Game 81.0 78.2 Opp Points/Game 64.3 67.1
Avg Score Margin +16.7 +11.1 Opp Effective FG % 44.3 45.7
Assists/Game 15.0 20.6 Off Rebounds/Gm 9.1 7.9
Total Rebounds/Gm 38.3 38.0 Def Rebounds/Gm 25.7 26.5
Effective FG % 56.4 55.9 Blocks/Game 3.8 4.4
Off Rebound % 31.4 27.2 Steals/Game 7.0 7.3
FTA/FGA 0.335 0.329 Personal Fouls/Gm 15.3 14.2
Turnover % 16.2 15.9
My Stats Comparison KU OU
=================== ============= ============
performance +0.36 +1.40
inconsistency 10.42 9.99
trend -0.95 ± 0.66 -0.76 ± 0.58
mental toughness 0.00 ± 0.27 +0.09 ± 0.21
average total pts 145.29 145.33
Common Opponents
================
There is one common opponent, namely TCU:
KU +2 TCU at home ( -1 neutral court)
OU -9 TCU on road ( -6 neutral court)
KU +8 OU at home ( +5 neutral court)
Players to Watch
================
most minutes Javian McMollum (guard)
most points Javian McMollum (guard)
most rebounds Sam Godwin (forward)
most assists Milos Uzan (guard)
most steals Otega Oweh (guard)
most blocks Jalon Moore (forward)
most turnovers Javian McMollum (guard)
most fouls Otega Oweh (guard)
I might take these with a grain of salt, as it appears that Greenfield has a
serious bug in their database, based on the fact that the Kansas player with the
most minutes is Charlie McCarthy with 37.00, the Kansas player with the most
points is Charlie McCarthy with 34.00, and the Kansas player with the most steals
is Charlie McCarthy with 2.00. "To err is humnan; to really screw up takes a
computer."
13-2 13-2
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Oklahoma
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Massey +6.00 73 67 72 # 5 # 21 # 18 # 74
Pomeroy +3.98 73 69 64.7 # 19 # 33 # 20 #236
Greenfield +6.50 74.5 68 # 19 # 19 # 22 # 35
Dunkel +10.50 77 67 # 5 # 65
Vegas (via Dunkel) +6.50 74 68
Dolphin Predictive +4.47 74 69 65.1 # 33 # 28 # 21 # 34
Real Time +6.00 80 74 67.1 # 2 # 16 # 14 #303
Seven Overtimes +5.00 76 71 65 # 40 # 45 # 37 #193
DPPI +2.60 74 71 58.2 # 22 # 31 # 26 #118
ESPN BPI +5.20 69.1 # 18 # 32 # 25 # 83
Whitlock +3.22 # 18 # 38 # 16 #102
Colley Matrix +7.78 # 2 # 24 # 18 #204
common opponents +8.00
NCAA NET # 16 # 24
LRMC # # # #
Massey composite # 6 # 12
Pomeroy offense # 42 # 44
Pomeroy defense # 12 # 15
Pomeroy tempo #144 #191
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +5.83 75.1 69.3 65.9
scatter 2.14 2.3 2.3 4.3
Here is Kansas' season, with a projected record of 22-9:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #251 North Carolina Central 99 56 +21.85 +21.15
HOME #341 Manhattan 99 61 +30.36 +7.64
NEUT # 16 Kentucky 89 84 -0.60 +5.60
Div2 Chaminade 83 56
NEUT # 18 Marquette 59 73 -0.07 -13.93
NEUT # 6 Tennessee 69 60 -3.63 +12.63
HOME #320 Eastern Illinois 71 63 +26.45 -18.45
HOME # 5 Connecticut 69 65 -0.01 +4.01
HOME #275 UMKC 88 69 +23.16 -4.16
HOME #104 Missouri 73 64 +12.88 -3.88
AWAY # 87 Indiana 75 71 +4.83 -0.83
HOME #108 Yale 75 60 +13.08 +1.92
NEUT #135 Wichita St. 86 67 +13.09 +5.91
HOME # 29 TCU 83 81 +5.41 -3.41
AWAY # 77 UCF 60 65 +4.13 -9.13
HOME # 20 Oklahoma 73 69 +3.98 0.647
AWAY #101 Oklahoma St. 73 67 +5.62 0.702
AWAY #143 West Virginia 76 67 +9.53 0.816
HOME # 32 Cincinnati 76 70 +6.05 0.716
AWAY # 15 Iowa St. 69 74 -4.56 0.333
HOME #101 Oklahoma St. 76 64 +12.62 0.884
HOME # 1 Houston 63 68 -4.54 0.334
AWAY # 59 Kansas St. 70 68 +1.67 0.563
HOME # 14 Baylor 77 75 +1.91 0.572
AWAY # 24 Texas Tech 71 73 -2.07 0.422
AWAY # 20 Oklahoma 70 73 -3.02 0.388
HOME # 33 Texas 75 69 +6.24 0.722
HOME # 12 BYU 74 73 +1.24 0.547
AWAY # 14 Baylor 73 79 -5.09 0.315
HOME # 59 Kansas St. 73 65 +8.67 0.794
AWAY # 1 Houston 60 71 -11.54 0.138
Here is Oklahoma's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #313 Central Michigan 89 59 +25.60 +4.40
HOME #362 Mississippi Valley St. 82 43 +36.18 +2.82
HOME #222 Texas St. 93 54 +19.42 +19.58
HOME #303 UT Rio Grande Valley 90 66 +26.54 -2.54
NEUT # 45 Iowa 79 67 +3.80 +8.20
NEUT # 70 USC 72 70 +6.30 -4.30
HOME #353 Arkansas Pine Bluff 107 86 +33.44 -12.44
HOME # 42 Providence 72 51 +6.75 +14.25
NEUT # 79 Arkansas 79 70 +7.18 +1.82
HOME #233 Green Bay 81 47 +19.28 +14.72
NEUT # 9 North Carolina 69 81 -3.64 -8.36
HOME #342 Central Arkansas 88 72 +29.60 -13.60
HOME #194 Monmouth 72 56 +18.68 -2.68
HOME # 15 Iowa St. 71 63 +1.96 +6.04
AWAY # 29 TCU 71 80 -2.12 -6.88
AWAY # 19 Kansas 69 73 -3.98 0.353
HOME #143 West Virginia 79 63 +15.92 0.934
AWAY # 32 Cincinnati 72 73 -1.47 0.445
HOME # 33 Texas 75 69 +5.74 0.706
HOME # 24 Texas Tech 73 69 +4.44 0.663
AWAY # 59 Kansas St. 69 68 +1.14 0.543
AWAY # 77 UCF 72 68 +3.56 0.632
HOME # 12 BYU 73 72 +0.78 0.529
HOME #101 Oklahoma St. 76 64 +12.06 0.873
AWAY # 14 Baylor 73 78 -5.56 0.300
HOME # 19 Kansas 73 70 +3.02 0.612
AWAY #101 Oklahoma St. 72 67 +5.06 0.684
AWAY # 15 Iowa St. 68 73 -5.04 0.317
HOME # 1 Houston 62 67 -4.91 0.321
HOME # 32 Cincinnati 75 70 +5.53 0.699
AWAY # 33 Texas 71 72 -1.26 0.453
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