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ATWP AY2023-24 - It's a NEW YEAR, JAYHAWKS!
10 months 3 weeks ago - 10 months 3 weeks ago #31918
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
This copy of the
post in the pinned ATWP thread
is presented here for your amusement and comments. (I know some folks don't routinely check out new posts in the pinned threads, and may not desire to comment there to avoid cluttering up the thread.)
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HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Welcome to 2024!
For this first ATWP post of the new year I'd thought I'd do something a little different.
Below are the TOP 25 ALL-TIME WINNINGEST PROGRAMS to lay out just who are the denizens of that realm.
POINTS OF INTEREST
•Kansas begins 2024 just 3 wins behind UK, having gained 2 wins on the Wildcats in the non-conference portion of this season's schedule. Through December 31, 2023 Kansas has not lost ground to ANY of the Top 25.
•Syracuse begins 2024 just 1 game behind Temple for 6th place. Despite some lackluster seasons in the final years of Jim Boeheim steering the ship, Syracuse still has managed to pick up better than 3 wins a season on Temple since the NCAA 2015 sanctions vacated 101 wins from Orange history. That penalty dropped the Orange from 5th place to 6th, 30 games behind the then new #5 Temple. Both still have a chance to reach the 2000 wins plateau this season (Syracuse for the 2nd time, and I like their chances better). In AY2022-23 UCLA passed both Syracuse and Temple for 5th place.
•UCLA has not had a great start this AY, but still has a chance to reach the 2000 wins level before it's over. Have to wonder if Mick Cronin is in trouble the way things are going this season?
•New Big 12 member Cincinnati has reached the 1900 wins level.
•Texas, Illinois, future Big 12 member Utah, Western Kentucky and new Big 12 member BYU all have a chance to reach 1900 wins in AY2023-24.
•Villanova is the only other team with even a remote chance of hitting 1900 wins this AY. They'd have to run the table the rest of the season and post-season to do so.
•West Virginia is in bad company so far this season, joining UCLA and Notre Dame as the only members of the Top 25 with losing records to date.
•Finally, Michigan State's stumble out of the gate has allowed 12-1 Princeton to tie the Spartans in wins but pass them for 23rd place based on the Tigers better historical winning percentage. #25 UConn trails both programs by 8 wins, 1819 to 1811, as the new year begins.
ALL TIME WINNINGEST PROGRAMS D1 MENS BASKETBALL
Top 25 programs
ALL-TIME & ACADEMIC YEAR 2023-24 WON-LOST TOTALS
Through Sunday 2023-12-31
LEGEND
CY: Current Year
WB: Wins Behind #1
ΔKU: Current year delta compared to KU
NCAAT: NCAA Tournament Championships
NOTES
1. The table reflects the 2023 NCAA IRP vacating of 15 wins from the KANSAS 2017-18 season from those 20 games in which retroactively declared ineligible Silvio De Sousa played.
2. The table shows the official NCAA record for Syracuse, which excludes the 101 wins the NCAA vacated in 2015.
If those wins had not been vacated Syracuse would be #5 with almost 2100 wins.
3. Connecticut, which played its first season in 1901, is included in this table because it is the only program with 4 or more NCAA Tournament titles not in the Top 10. In the Top 10 only KU (1899), Temple (1895) and Notre Dame (1897) began playing earlier, and only KU, Temple, Syracuse and Indiana - and #24 Princeton as well - have played more seasons.
As always, please let me know if you have any questions or spot any errors, and thanks in advance!
AY2023-24 KU OBJECTIVES
21/64: Win KU's 21st Big 12 title in 28 Big 12 seasons, and NCAA best 64th conference title in program history.
12/29: Looking for KU's 12th Big 12 Tournament title, and 29th overall conference tournament title
(currently 11 Big 12 titles + 4 Big 8 postseason titles 1977-96 + 13 Big 6/7/8 Holiday Tournament titles 1947 to 1979).
and
5/7: NCAA & total National Championships to go with their COVID-19 Season Final 2020 Consensus #1 ranking.*
BETTER LUCK NEXT YEAR, JAYHAWKS!
Rock Chalk Jayhawk
K
U!
*#1 Final 2020 Regular Season AP, Coaches, KenPom, Sagarin, NET, BPI, RPI & DPPI
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HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Welcome to 2024!
For this first ATWP post of the new year I'd thought I'd do something a little different.
Below are the TOP 25 ALL-TIME WINNINGEST PROGRAMS to lay out just who are the denizens of that realm.
POINTS OF INTEREST
•Kansas begins 2024 just 3 wins behind UK, having gained 2 wins on the Wildcats in the non-conference portion of this season's schedule. Through December 31, 2023 Kansas has not lost ground to ANY of the Top 25.
•Syracuse begins 2024 just 1 game behind Temple for 6th place. Despite some lackluster seasons in the final years of Jim Boeheim steering the ship, Syracuse still has managed to pick up better than 3 wins a season on Temple since the NCAA 2015 sanctions vacated 101 wins from Orange history. That penalty dropped the Orange from 5th place to 6th, 30 games behind the then new #5 Temple. Both still have a chance to reach the 2000 wins plateau this season (Syracuse for the 2nd time, and I like their chances better). In AY2022-23 UCLA passed both Syracuse and Temple for 5th place.
•UCLA has not had a great start this AY, but still has a chance to reach the 2000 wins level before it's over. Have to wonder if Mick Cronin is in trouble the way things are going this season?
•New Big 12 member Cincinnati has reached the 1900 wins level.
•Texas, Illinois, future Big 12 member Utah, Western Kentucky and new Big 12 member BYU all have a chance to reach 1900 wins in AY2023-24.
•Villanova is the only other team with even a remote chance of hitting 1900 wins this AY. They'd have to run the table the rest of the season and post-season to do so.
•West Virginia is in bad company so far this season, joining UCLA and Notre Dame as the only members of the Top 25 with losing records to date.
•Finally, Michigan State's stumble out of the gate has allowed 12-1 Princeton to tie the Spartans in wins but pass them for 23rd place based on the Tigers better historical winning percentage. #25 UConn trails both programs by 8 wins, 1819 to 1811, as the new year begins.
ALL TIME WINNINGEST PROGRAMS D1 MENS BASKETBALL
Top 25 programs
ALL-TIME & ACADEMIC YEAR 2023-24 WON-LOST TOTALS
Through Sunday 2023-12-31
RANK PROGRAM WON LOST WIN% CYW CYL CYW% WB ΔKU NCAAT
1 Kentucky 2385 750 0.761 10 2 0.833 0 -2 8
2 Kansas 2382 886 0.729 12 1 0.923 3 na 4
3 N Carolina 2352 855 0.733 9 3 0.750 33 -3 6
4 Duke 2282 923 0.712 9 3 0.750 103 -3 5
5 UCLA 1992 895 0.690 6 7 0.462 393 -6 11
6 Temple 1984 1143 0.634 7 6 0.538 401 -5 0
7 Syracuse 1983 967 0.672 10 3 0.769 402 -2 1
8 Notre Dame 1956 1096 0.640 6 7 0.462 429 -6 0
9 St John’s 1931 1089 0.639 9 4 0.692 454 -3 0
10 Indiana 1922 1106 0.635 10 3 0.769 463 -2 5
11 Purdue 1907 1076 0.639 12 1 0.923 478 0 0
12 Cincinnati 1900 1066 0.641 11 2 0.846 485 -1 2
13 Texas 1889 1128 0.626 10 2 0.833 496 -2 0
14 Illinois 1888 1054 0.642 10 2 0.833 497 -2 0
15 Utah 1886 1069 0.638 11 2 0.846 499 -1 1
16 W Kentucky 1883 976 0.659 11 3 0.786 502 -1 0
17 BYU 1881 1135 0.624 12 1 0.923 504 0 0
18 Villanova 1873 977 0.657 9 4 0.692 512 -3 3
19 Arizona 1872 980 0.656 10 3 0.769 513 -2 1
20 W Virginia 1851 1160 0.615 5 8 0.385 534 -7 0
21 Washington 1853 1258 0.596 8 5 0.615 532 -4 0
22 Penn 1843 1158 0.614 8 6 0.571 542 -4 0
23 Princeton 1819 1120 0.619 12 1 0.923 566 0 0
24 Michigan St 1819 1146 0.613 8 5 0.615 566 -4 2
25 UConn 1811 1014 0.641 11 2 0.846 574 -1 5CY: Current Year
WB: Wins Behind #1
ΔKU: Current year delta compared to KU
NCAAT: NCAA Tournament Championships
NOTES
1. The table reflects the 2023 NCAA IRP vacating of 15 wins from the KANSAS 2017-18 season from those 20 games in which retroactively declared ineligible Silvio De Sousa played.
2. The table shows the official NCAA record for Syracuse, which excludes the 101 wins the NCAA vacated in 2015.
If those wins had not been vacated Syracuse would be #5 with almost 2100 wins.
3. Connecticut, which played its first season in 1901, is included in this table because it is the only program with 4 or more NCAA Tournament titles not in the Top 10. In the Top 10 only KU (1899), Temple (1895) and Notre Dame (1897) began playing earlier, and only KU, Temple, Syracuse and Indiana - and #24 Princeton as well - have played more seasons.
As always, please let me know if you have any questions or spot any errors, and thanks in advance!
AY2023-24 KU OBJECTIVES
21/64: Win KU's 21st Big 12 title in 28 Big 12 seasons, and NCAA best 64th conference title in program history.
12/29: Looking for KU's 12th Big 12 Tournament title, and 29th overall conference tournament title
(currently 11 Big 12 titles + 4 Big 8 postseason titles 1977-96 + 13 Big 6/7/8 Holiday Tournament titles 1947 to 1979).
and
5/7: NCAA & total National Championships to go with their COVID-19 Season Final 2020 Consensus #1 ranking.*
BETTER LUCK NEXT YEAR, JAYHAWKS!
*#1 Final 2020 Regular Season AP, Coaches, KenPom, Sagarin, NET, BPI, RPI & DPPI
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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