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11 months 1 day ago #31867
by hoshi
“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits”. Albert Einstein
OK, we have 10 players currently on scholarship including Clemence, who is red shirting. Not sure if Morris counts for this semester/year as he was on the team and possibly enrolled before being kicked off. If yes, then there were 11 players at the beginning.
We had a self-imposed scholarship limit over three years, which will be fulfilled regardless of whether Morris is counted or not.
So, next year, depending on whether Dickinson and Harris come back for another year, how many players could we add, assuming no out transfers? It seems to me, that with the three current signees and the numbers we will or might lose, we could add many more players, HELP HE! How many more of those will be HS graduates, how many transfers, any additional foreign players? Fun to speculate.
We had a self-imposed scholarship limit over three years, which will be fulfilled regardless of whether Morris is counted or not.
So, next year, depending on whether Dickinson and Harris come back for another year, how many players could we add, assuming no out transfers? It seems to me, that with the three current signees and the numbers we will or might lose, we could add many more players, HELP HE! How many more of those will be HS graduates, how many transfers, any additional foreign players? Fun to speculate.
“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits”. Albert Einstein
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11 months 1 day ago - 11 months 1 day ago #31873
by HawkErrant
TLDR
12 total scholarships allowed AY (13-1 AY2024-25)
- 7 returning scholarship players (after known EEs/Transfers out)
= 5 openings (after known EEs/Transfers Out)
- 3 new scholarship players (HS recruits and transfers in)
∴ 2 scholarships available as of today
DETAILS
Morris counts, so 11 scholarship players this AY.
IF no Spring Semester add over winter break, this AY KU can tick off 2 of the 3 scholarships they gave up over three years (1 per year or any combination over three years that leads to 3 rides lost).
Everything I am reading/hearing is no winter break add, so after this AY KU will still have one more scholarship to forego either next AY or AY2025-26.
Assume Self wants to work through the penalty asap. 12 rides next AY, then return to full complement of 13 after that.
4 Scholarship players “leaving” for sure
Braun
Timberlake
McCullar
Morris (he counts for entire AY even though already gone)
7 Scholarship players projected to return
Dickinson
Harris
Adams
Clemence
Jackson
Furphy
McDowell
3 HS recruits
Bidunga
Philon
Passmore
Ceteris paribus (no other losses)->
2 Available scholarships to fill
I’m thinking Self may use them for transfers, going for experienced players.
I know they were looking for a possible foreign addition during this winter break, but nothing has materialized.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
hoshi wrote: OK, we have 10 players currently on scholarship including Clemence, who is red shirting. Not sure if Morris counts for this semester/year as he was on the team and possibly enrolled before being kicked off. If yes, then there were 11 players at the beginning.
We had a self-imposed scholarship limit over three years, which will be fulfilled regardless of whether Morris is counted or not.
So, next year, depending on whether Dickinson and Harris come back for another year, how many players could we add, assuming no out transfers? It seems to me, that with the three current signees and the numbers we will or might lose, we could add many more players, HELP HE! How many more of those will be HS graduates, how many transfers, any additional foreign players? Fun to speculate.
TLDR
12 total scholarships allowed AY (13-1 AY2024-25)
- 7 returning scholarship players (after known EEs/Transfers out)
= 5 openings (after known EEs/Transfers Out)
- 3 new scholarship players (HS recruits and transfers in)
∴ 2 scholarships available as of today
DETAILS
Morris counts, so 11 scholarship players this AY.
IF no Spring Semester add over winter break, this AY KU can tick off 2 of the 3 scholarships they gave up over three years (1 per year or any combination over three years that leads to 3 rides lost).
Everything I am reading/hearing is no winter break add, so after this AY KU will still have one more scholarship to forego either next AY or AY2025-26.
Assume Self wants to work through the penalty asap. 12 rides next AY, then return to full complement of 13 after that.
4 Scholarship players “leaving” for sure
Braun
Timberlake
McCullar
Morris (he counts for entire AY even though already gone)
7 Scholarship players projected to return
Dickinson
Harris
Adams
Clemence
Jackson
Furphy
McDowell
3 HS recruits
Bidunga
Philon
Passmore
Ceteris paribus (no other losses)->
2 Available scholarships to fill
I’m thinking Self may use them for transfers, going for experienced players.
I know they were looking for a possible foreign addition during this winter break, but nothing has materialized.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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11 months 1 day ago #31878
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“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits”. Albert Einstein
HE, I think you might off by one possible addition. We had to give up three scholarships over three years and since we gave up one last year and two this year, haven’t we filled that obligation after this year? Thus we can add another three players, total. That also assumes that both Dickinson and Harris come back. Therefore we can add an additional 3-5 players. My guess is that at least 1-2 will be transfers.
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11 months 22 hours ago - 11 months 22 hours ago #31880
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
AY2022-23 KU had 13 scholarship players. See table at bottom of this post.
Penalty pay off began with this AY.
2 checked off this AY assuming no late adds for Spring 2024 ☞ 1 left.
12 available next AY assuming Bill wants to pay it off ASAP.
∴ 2 scholarships open at present, as previously noted.
Both Dickinson and Harris may leave, but each has indicated they plan on being back, so I'm going with their statements pending updates otherwise.
Barring any presently unknown losses for whatever reason, the # is 2 more possible for now.
With 3 new freshman (HS signees) and 3 sophomores in the projected returning 7 scholly players, that's 6 of 12 rides. If a high level HS player wants to come I'm sure Bill will take him, but I can also see him looking hard at the transfer portal, especially for high level juniors looking to move.
Copied from ROSTER & STAFF MBB AY2022-23
AY2022-23 KANSAS MEN'S BASKETBALL ROSTER
(SCHOLARSHIP PLAYERS - NAMES IN CAPS)ROSTER LINKS, LEGEND & NOTES
Injury Status at Covers.com
Penalty pay off began with this AY.
2 checked off this AY assuming no late adds for Spring 2024 ☞ 1 left.
12 available next AY assuming Bill wants to pay it off ASAP.
∴ 2 scholarships open at present, as previously noted.
Both Dickinson and Harris may leave, but each has indicated they plan on being back, so I'm going with their statements pending updates otherwise.
Barring any presently unknown losses for whatever reason, the # is 2 more possible for now.
With 3 new freshman (HS signees) and 3 sophomores in the projected returning 7 scholly players, that's 6 of 12 rides. If a high level HS player wants to come I'm sure Bill will take him, but I can also see him looking hard at the transfer portal, especially for high level juniors looking to move.
Copied from ROSTER & STAFF MBB AY2022-23
AY2022-23 KANSAS MEN'S BASKETBALL ROSTER
(SCHOLARSHIP PLAYERS - NAMES IN CAPS)
# NAME POS HT / WT CLASS HOMETOWN HS/PRIOR COLLEGE
0 BOBBY PETTIFORD JR G 6-1/190 So Durham NC South Granville
1 JOSEPH YESUFU† G 6-0/180 Jr Bolingbrook IL Bolingbrook/Drake
3 DAJUAN HARRIS JR† G 6-1/170 Jr* Columbia MO Rock Bridge
4 GRADEY DICK F 6-8/205 Fr Bel Aire KS Sunrise Christian
5 KYLE CUFFE JR G 6-2/180 Fr* Harlem NJ Blair Academy
10 JALEN WILSON† F 6-8/225 Jr* Denton TX John H. Guyer
11 MJ RICE F 6-5/220 Fr Durham NC Prolific Prep, Napa CA
12 Wilder Evers$a G 6-3/190 Fr Birmingham AL Oak Mountain
13 Charlie McCarthy$b G 6-2/195 So Rancho Mirage CA Shadow Hills
15 KEVIN MCCULLAR JR† G 6-6/210 Sr* San Antonio TX Wagner/Texas Tech
20 Michael Jankovich$†c G 6-5/190 Sr Dallas TX Northfield/MtHermon MA
21 ZACH CLEMENCE F 6-10/225 So San Antonio TX Sunrise Christian
22 Dillon Wilhite$d F/C 6-9/240 Fr* San Diego CA Cathedral Catholic
23 ERNEST UDEH JR C 6-11/240 Fr Orlando FL Dr Phillips
24 KJ ADAMS JR F 6-7/225 So Austin TX Westlake
31 CAM MARTIN# F/C 6-9/230 SSr* Yukon OK Yukon/ MO Southern St
35 ZUBY EJIOFOR F/C 6-9/235 Fr Garland TX Garland
Injury Status at Covers.com
SSr Super Senior
† Super Senior eligible in the future
$ Walk on
* Past Red Shirt
^ Redshirting this season
# Graduate transfer
% JUCO transfer
= Current year transfer not sitting out this season
a. Son of KU alums Sandy & Mike Evers (pronounced EE-vers); both ran track at KU.
Brother Stone is a pitcher on the KU baseball team.
b. Son of KU grads Kent & Missy McCarthy (see McCarthy Hall); great-grandson of
Kansas Men’s Basketball great Howard Engelman
c. Son of former KU Assistant Coach Tim Jankovich
d. Grandson of Joanie Stephens, Admin Assistant to HC Self."Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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11 months 21 hours ago #31882
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“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits”. Albert Einstein
Thanks for the clarification, oh mighty keeper of the numbers.
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11 months 20 hours ago #31884
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Yer welcome, mate!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
hoshi wrote: Thanks for the clarification, oh mighty keeper of the numbers.
Yer welcome, mate!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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