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predictions for North Carolina Central game
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1 year 2 weeks ago #31599
by asteroid
I'm not sure what's going on with Jeff Sagarin. Apparently USA Today
discontinued publishing his rankings, though his own web page still
exists, and he is updating his football rankings (KU cracked into his
Top 25 this week). But I've been waiting for his starting basketball
ratings with which to do a season projection, but nothing has been
posted so far. Nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch. But hey, it's the first
game of the season, so there's very little of actual performance on
which to base starting ratings, so maybe it's not such a big deal.
The other usual suspects are out with their predictions, however, and
there are a bunch not yet on board, as in the past.
North Carolina Central is a bottom tier team. I wish they wouldn't
schedule cupcakes. You'll get a better tune-up and still have a
high probability of victory with a middle tier team.
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Greenfield Stats Comparison (last season's stats)
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Offensive Stats NCC KU Defensive Stats NCC KU
Points/Game 71.1 75.4 Opp Points/Game 67.9 68.1
Avg Score Margin +3.2 +7.4 Opp Effective FG % 48.9 47.0
Assists/Game 12.9 16.4 Off Rebounds/Gm 9.0 8.6
Total Rebounds/Gm 35.0 35.9 Def Rebounds/Gm 22.5 24.6
Effective FG % 50.9 52.6 Blocks/Game 3.0 3.9
Off Rebound % 29.9 27.0 Steals/Game 7.2 8.8
FTA/FGA 0.342 0.298 Personal Fouls/Gm 19.5 16.6
Turnover % 19.7 15.3
My Stats Comparison KU NC Central
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average total pts 143.5 139.0
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Interesting that only ESPN's BPI has Kansas ranked #1 among the computer rankings.
Massey has Houston as #1, while Pomeroy and Greenfield have Purdue as #1.
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Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas NC Central
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
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Sagarin Overall # # # #
Sagarin Predictor 98.3 # # # #
Sagarin Golden Mean # # # #
Sagarin Recent Games # # # #
Sagarin Eigenvector
Massey +29.00 85 56 99 # 2 # #270 #
Pomeroy +28.00 82 54 # 2 # #306 #
Greenfield +30.00 85 54.5 # 2 # #279 #
Dunkel +31.5 81 50 # #
Vegas (via Dunkel) +30.00 84 54
Dolphin Predictive # # # #
Real Time # # # #
Seven Overtimes # # # #
DPPI # # # #
ESPN BPI # 1 # #295 #
Whitlock # # # #
Colley Matrix # # # #
NCAA NET # #
LRMC # # # #
common opponents
Massey composite # #
Pomeroy offense # 9 #317
Pomeroy defense # 1 #274
Pomeroy tempo # 79 #188
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average +29.70 83.4 53.7 98.7
scatter 1.30 1.8 2.2 0.5
Here is Kansas' season, with predicted margins based on last season's final
ratings. Normally you could just add those probabilities of victory to compute
the expected number of wins, but I have all possible opponents listed for the
Maui Invitational, which would skew the result upward by about 2 wins. What a
loaded field this year.
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
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HOME #220 NC Central +23.32 0.983
HOME #290 Manhattan +27.77 0.994
NEUT # 22 Kentucky +3.83 0.636
Div2 Chaminade Game 1
NEUT # 4 UCLA Game 2 -1.38 0.450
NEUT # 14 Marquette Game 2 +2.55 0.592
NEUT # 8 Gonzaga Game 3 +0.00 0.500
NEUT # 10 Purdue Game 3 +0.69 0.525
NEUT # 95 Syracuse Game 3 +11.77 0.858
NEUT # 5 Tennessee Game 3 -1.27 0.454
HOME #350 Eastern Illinois +33.50 0.999
HOME # 3 Connecticut +0.64 0.523
HOME #305 Kansas City(UMKC) +28.56 0.995
HOME # 56 Missouri +10.31 0.826
AWAY # 16 Indiana -0.09 0.497
HOME # 77 Yale +12.59 0.874
NEUT # 98 Wichita State +11.92 0.861
HOME # 19 TCU +6.52 0.723
AWAY # 61 Central Florida(UCF) +4.85 0.670
HOME # 57 Oklahoma +10.42 0.828
AWAY # 44 Oklahoma State +2.57 0.592
AWAY # 24 West Virginia +0.85 0.531
HOME # 46 Cincinnati +9.22 0.799
AWAY # 30 Iowa State +1.24 0.545
HOME # 44 Oklahoma State +8.85 0.789
HOME # 2 Houston +0.14 0.505
AWAY # 26 Kansas State +0.93 0.534
HOME # 12 Baylor +4.47 0.658
AWAY # 37 Texas Tech +2.20 0.579
AWAY # 57 Oklahoma +4.14 0.647
HOME # 6 Texas +2.58 0.593
HOME # 67 BYU +11.82 0.859
AWAY # 12 Baylor -1.81 0.435
HOME # 26 Kansas State +7.21 0.744
AWAY # 2 Houston -6.14 0.288
Here is North Carolina Central's season to date:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
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AWAY # 7 Kansas -23.32 0.017
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1 year 2 weeks ago #31601
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Thanks as always for the numbers!
Playing the cupcakes may not be as fun as playing the Kentucky's, Duke's, and UCONN's of the world but they serve value to both teams. KU gets to run against strangers with more on the line than an exhibition win (I think we all agree that they need it) and the cupcakes gets a bunch of money to bring kids to play in mighty Allen Fieldhouse and get their butts kicked. But what a way to go...
Playing the cupcakes may not be as fun as playing the Kentucky's, Duke's, and UCONN's of the world but they serve value to both teams. KU gets to run against strangers with more on the line than an exhibition win (I think we all agree that they need it) and the cupcakes gets a bunch of money to bring kids to play in mighty Allen Fieldhouse and get their butts kicked. But what a way to go...
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1 year 2 weeks ago - 1 year 2 weeks ago #31604
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Plus, USAFJ, KU lists this as the “inaugural” McLendon Classic at KU.
NC-C was McLendon’s first college head coaching job.
His college coaching career also included Hampton, Tennessee State, Kentucky State and Cleveland State.
Leaves me to wonder if future season openers will feature those schools in the McLendon Classic before moving on to play other HBCU schools?
If it has been mentioned I missed it.
NC-C was McLendon’s first college head coaching job.
His college coaching career also included Hampton, Tennessee State, Kentucky State and Cleveland State.
Leaves me to wonder if future season openers will feature those schools in the McLendon Classic before moving on to play other HBCU schools?
If it has been mentioned I missed it.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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