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1 year 3 weeks ago #31554
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I was surprised to find it recorded… so far Hunter has been underwhelming. Not much of a defensive threat (no surprise there) but he’s blocked everything he’s thrown up.
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1 year 3 weeks ago #31555
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The end is nothing; the road is all.
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Lots of work to be done . . . . 
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1 year 3 weeks ago - 1 year 3 weeks ago #31556
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A lot of roster turnover means a lot of work for the team to learn to play together. The coaches sure have their work cut out for themselves this year. I feel very strongly that the team we say today will be very different in January.
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1 year 3 weeks ago #31557
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
We can only hope, hairy… Hope they come together defensively and offensively and hope McCullar’s okay and that Furphy will be a contributor once healthy.hairyhawk wrote: A lot of roster turnover means a lot of work for the team to learn to play together. The coaches sure have their work cut out for themselves this year. I feel very strongly that the team we saw today will be very different in January.
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1 year 3 weeks ago #31558
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"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
Good lesson in humility. For weeks they've been told that they're the #1 team in the country, and despite the coaches' best efforts, that's going to have an impact. It's great to have some confidence heading into the season, but at this stage, being served a large dose of humble pie can also be helpful.
I'm sure they'll have some tough practices this week, but I'm also confident that they'll listen better to any criticism that's given. Lots of tape for Self in this process.
As ugly as this was, it's a good thing. Reality check for the team, game was meaningless beyond some minor bragging points, and I'm sure they raised a ton of money for Maui. All good.
I'm sure they'll have some tough practices this week, but I'm also confident that they'll listen better to any criticism that's given. Lots of tape for Self in this process.
As ugly as this was, it's a good thing. Reality check for the team, game was meaningless beyond some minor bragging points, and I'm sure they raised a ton of money for Maui. All good.
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
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1 year 3 weeks ago #31561
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A teaching loss
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1 year 3 weeks ago #31564
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It looked like their only goal was to learn to play with Hunter. He rarely goes inside unless from a pick and roll, so he takes up a ton of space on the perimeter and top of the key.
We weren't looking for any 3s, and so the offense looked bad. But if you watched KJ in the first half, he seemed lost and out of the scheme. But second half he got inside and got some dunks, which I think is what Self was hoping for. Get used to the giant, and where he will be on the court, then adapt and make yourself available. It seemed to work as time went on.
But Hunter looks useless defensively. Very slow, and not at all a shot blocker, though he'll get a few just by being huge.
I'm mentally prepared for a Self KU team now. Don't get too worked up good or bad until February/March. He's about another nat'l championship - period.
We weren't looking for any 3s, and so the offense looked bad. But if you watched KJ in the first half, he seemed lost and out of the scheme. But second half he got inside and got some dunks, which I think is what Self was hoping for. Get used to the giant, and where he will be on the court, then adapt and make yourself available. It seemed to work as time went on.
But Hunter looks useless defensively. Very slow, and not at all a shot blocker, though he'll get a few just by being huge.
I'm mentally prepared for a Self KU team now. Don't get too worked up good or bad until February/March. He's about another nat'l championship - period.
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1 year 3 weeks ago #31566
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I’m thinking you are right. With the conference title streak no longer a factor, I think the grand prize truly is where he is focused now. I’m not saying he doesn’t care about winning all 3, Big 12 regular season and tournament titles and NCAA crown, I’m sure he does. But at this point in his career, I think the NCAA title is the legacy sealant he wants.
Assuming he stays healthy, passing Phog in KU wins is a given.
Winning more Big 12 titles is highly likely.
The two career goals that are still wayyyyy out there are winning 1000 games and winning more NCAA titles… and with longevity the 1000 wins is far more likely than another NCAA title.
At present Self and KU are both 7th in all-time NCAA Tournament titles.
Self is the only active coach with 2 or more titles, tied for 7th place with 8 other coaches with 2 titles.
Another title and he jumps to being tied for 4th place with Roy, Bob Knight (who died today at 83) and Jim Calhoun.
Men’s Division 1 Basketball Coaches with Multiple NCAA Tournament Titles
KU is all alone in 7th place with 4 titles. Another win and KU is tied for 4th with Duke, Indiana and UConn.
Men’s Division 1 Teams with Multiple NCAA Tournament Titles
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
AZhawk87 wrote: …
I'm mentally prepared for a Self KU team now. Don't get too worked up good or bad until February/March. He's about another nat'l championship - period.
I’m thinking you are right. With the conference title streak no longer a factor, I think the grand prize truly is where he is focused now. I’m not saying he doesn’t care about winning all 3, Big 12 regular season and tournament titles and NCAA crown, I’m sure he does. But at this point in his career, I think the NCAA title is the legacy sealant he wants.
Assuming he stays healthy, passing Phog in KU wins is a given.
Winning more Big 12 titles is highly likely.
The two career goals that are still wayyyyy out there are winning 1000 games and winning more NCAA titles… and with longevity the 1000 wins is far more likely than another NCAA title.
At present Self and KU are both 7th in all-time NCAA Tournament titles.
Self is the only active coach with 2 or more titles, tied for 7th place with 8 other coaches with 2 titles.
Another title and he jumps to being tied for 4th place with Roy, Bob Knight (who died today at 83) and Jim Calhoun.
Men’s Division 1 Basketball Coaches with Multiple NCAA Tournament Titles
COACH Ws YEARS WON
John Wooden 10 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975
Mike Krzyzewski 5 1991, 1992, 2001, 2010, 2015
Adolph Rupp 4 1948, 1949, 1951, 1958
Jim Calhoun 3 1999, 2004, 2011
Bob Knight 3 1976, 1981, 1987
Roy Williams 3 2005, 2009, 2017
Denny Crum 2 1980, 1986
Billy Donovan 2 2006, 2007
Henry Iba 2 1945, 1946
Ed Jucker 2 1961, 1962
Branch McCracken 2 1940, 1953
Bill Self 2 2008, 2022
Dean Smith 2 1982, 1993
Phil Woolpert 2 1955, 1956
Jay Wright 2 2016, 2018KU is all alone in 7th place with 4 titles. Another win and KU is tied for 4th with Duke, Indiana and UConn.
Men’s Division 1 Teams with Multiple NCAA Tournament Titles
Team Wins Years won
UCLA 11 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1995
UK 8 1948, 1949, 1951, 1958, 1978, 1996, 1998, 2012
UNC 6 1957, 1982, 1993, 2005, 2009, 2017
Duke 5 1991, 1992, 2001, 2010, 2015
UConn 5 1999, 2004, 2011, 2014, 2023
Indiana 5 1940, 1953, 1976, 1981, 1987
Kansas 4 1952, 1988, 2008, 2022"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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