“Unscathed”

YES! Can't wait to see the full report. Want to know if they addressed the following:

1.) agent tries to get KU to pay for Zion WIlliamson. KU coach says, "well see what we can do" or something equally non-commital. Zion picks Duke, so KU obviously did nothing, and nobody ever bothered to sniff around Duke to see if they were writing checks.

2.) Whether innocuus and non-committal statements by KU coaches are an admission of some kind of guilt. If a criminal walks up to me and makes me an offer and I say "I'll consider it" and then I DO consider it, that's a lot different than a crazy person coming up to me, making me a crazy offer and saying "I'll consider it" and then rolling my eyes and walking away from the crazy person.

Also, I saw some article today from some Mizzou outlet gushing about how today was the day that KU was finally going to get what it deserved. I would LOVE to see the guy who wrote it right now.

Seems pretty far from unscathed. KU has to vacate 15 wins including 4 NCAA wins and a Final Four appearance. Yeah, no more post-season ban but a whole post season from the past wiped out. That seems like a pretty huge issue and definitely a black mark. We have to vacate all the games De Sousa played in 2017-18 season. Ouch and double ouch. That moves Kentucky back way ahead in all time wins.

In the 15 vacated wins here is the sum total of the contribution of Silvio.

148 minutes (9.9 min per game)
65 points (4.3 PPG)
3 assists
13 TO’s
63 rebounds
27 of 37 FG’s

KU won those 15 games by a total of 1200-1051 or 149 points or 10 points per game. What a shame to lose 15 victories when realistically at most 1,or possibly would have certainly been victories without Silvio. But dems da rules.

Pulled up link for SI story and embedded ad was for Grubhub featuring none other than Snoop Dog!!! Ha!

Maybe if Silvio would have gotten a nice car and wreck it before his season at KU, KU might have smelled something fishy much like Preston. I don't understand how KU coaches can be held responsible for parent or guardians getting financial benefits from companies when the player may not even now about it. (I emphasize may)

If shoe companies are going to be considered boosters then half the NCAA programs are probably guilty.

Point of clarification: earlier reports when the news broke said nothing about vacating wins and basically made it sound like there were zero repercussions.

Subsequent reports added the vacated wins, which sucks and is unfair in my opinion.

Nevertheless we're deep into the NIL era now, so it all becomes moot and my overall opinion of college sports in general continues to descend at a steady interval.

NotO, I am ready to declare college basketball to be in an inexorable decline. The portal, the NIL, the talk of players unions, the worship and hype of players even in HS, the money money money, the conference realignment, and probably a few other things my age-addled brain is not thinking of, have definitely cast a POTENTIAL pall over the sport.

BUT…

As of of yet, I have not seen the one main thing that keeps me coming back radically effected. And what is that?

When the Jayhawks take the floor, the competitiveness and will to win is still much as it has always been. It is still an exciting game for 40 seconds of play clock and 2 hours of time. Once things like “load management” enter or players dictating game strategy and play time like the NBA, I am out. I keep thinking every year that I am going to taper back because of the distastefulness of the ancillary aspects surrounding the game. But then tip-off happens and I see 5 guys busting their butts to win and even with a little school spirit to boot. As of yet, this aspect of the game still maintains its draw and purity enough to keep me coming back.

NotO, I am ready to declare college basketball to be in an inexorable decline. The portal, the NIL, the talk of players unions, the worship and hype of players even in HS, the money money money, the conference realignment, and probably a few other things my age-addled brain is not thinking of, have definitely cast a POTENTIAL pall over the sport.

BUT…

As of of yet, I have not seen the one main thing that keeps me coming back radically effected. And what is that?

When the Jayhawks take the floor, the competitiveness and will to win is still much as it has always been. It is still an exciting game for 40 minutes of play clock and 2 hours of time. Once things like “load management” enter or players dictating game strategy and play time like the NBA, I am out. I keep thinking every year that I am going to taper back because of the distastefulness of the ancillary aspects surrounding the game. But then tip-off happens and I see 5 guys busting their butts to win and even with a little school spirit to boot. As of yet, this aspect of the game still maintains its draw and purity enough to keep me coming back.

USAFJ- no, opponents who lost a game that was later vacated do not get credit for a win as a result.

I cannot cite line and verse, but I have never heard or read of it happening.

HawkErrant wrote: USAF Jayhawk, my apologies.
Either I or my laptop (maybe both) are having issues today.

I THOUGHT I hit QUOTE to reply to you, then decided to reply without quoting you, but instead I ended up editing your comment, and now I cannot recover it.

If you have a copy, please repost it, especially the part about the role SDS played when Dok went down.

Thank you!
And Sorry!

HE

Sorry HE, that was off the cuff. However, regarding SDS filling in for DOK, it was my recollection that he (along with Malik) saved us in the B12 tournament (and of course Malik continued for the next 4 games, almost beating Duke single-handed). But as someone noted, we lost 5/20 games with him playing so he wasn't a total savior.