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Realignment recap & update
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1 year 3 months ago - 1 year 3 months ago #31318
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Pac12 related Tweets of interest from the last 24 hours. Copy and paste the links below to see the actual tweets and their responses.
SWAIM SHOW
@GSwaim
Tucsony tells us that Arizona to the #Big12 is now a "done deal" and "this will happen on or before Tuesday", which is consistent with what three others who follow Wildcats have told us. #BearDown
3:12 AM · Jul 30, 2023
OutKick
@Outkick
The Big Ten reportedly has no interest in adding more PAC-12 teams after USC and UCLA join in 2024.
Will Oregon and Washington be left out in the cold or will they make a run for the Big 12?
Embrace the chaos!
outkick.com
Big Ten Not Interested In Adding More Teams: REPORT
2:00 PM · Jul 29, 2023
Greg Swaim’s response to the Outkick tweet…
SWAIM SHOW
@GSwaim
This is absolutely true and until #NotreDame does something one way or another, the #B1G won't move and when they do it'll likely be #ACC teams.
11:32 AM · Jul 30, 2023
So, come July 2024 — will the Big 12 have:
13 members (OUt gone & CU back) or
14 members (UA joins CU in Big “12”)
or
16 - two more programs (UO? UW? Stanford? Utah? ASU?) join CU & UA in the Big 12
I do not see UConn (not a P5 program) being added, despite Commissioner Brett Yormark’s liking of them.
Remember — numerous reports are that Big 12 media partners ESPN and Fox have agreed with the Big 12 that any P5 program that opts to move to the Big 12 will actually increase the conference media contract by the average current value of each member up to and including getting to 16 members. This is a huge get that Yormark negotiated with ESPN and Fox. Unlike current B1G or SEC members who would see their current shares decrease by adding new members (exception would be Notre Dame, whose added worth is gauged to be comparable to the current average B1G media contract share), no current Big 12 member will see its share of the current contract decrease due to adding new members from a P5 conference.
https://twitter.com/GSwaim/status/1685564012665188353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1685564012665188353%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
@GSwaim
Tucsony tells us that Arizona to the #Big12 is now a "done deal" and "this will happen on or before Tuesday", which is consistent with what three others who follow Wildcats have told us. #BearDown
3:12 AM · Jul 30, 2023
https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1685364569454338049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1685364569454338049%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
@Outkick
The Big Ten reportedly has no interest in adding more PAC-12 teams after USC and UCLA join in 2024.
Will Oregon and Washington be left out in the cold or will they make a run for the Big 12?
Embrace the chaos!
outkick.com
Big Ten Not Interested In Adding More Teams: REPORT
2:00 PM · Jul 29, 2023
Greg Swaim’s response to the Outkick tweet…
https://twitter.com/GSwaim/status/1685689945048985601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1685689945048985601%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
SWAIM SHOW
@GSwaim
This is absolutely true and until #NotreDame does something one way or another, the #B1G won't move and when they do it'll likely be #ACC teams.
11:32 AM · Jul 30, 2023
So, come July 2024 — will the Big 12 have:
13 members (OUt gone & CU back) or
14 members (UA joins CU in Big “12”)
or
16 - two more programs (UO? UW? Stanford? Utah? ASU?) join CU & UA in the Big 12
I do not see UConn (not a P5 program) being added, despite Commissioner Brett Yormark’s liking of them.
Remember — numerous reports are that Big 12 media partners ESPN and Fox have agreed with the Big 12 that any P5 program that opts to move to the Big 12 will actually increase the conference media contract by the average current value of each member up to and including getting to 16 members. This is a huge get that Yormark negotiated with ESPN and Fox. Unlike current B1G or SEC members who would see their current shares decrease by adding new members (exception would be Notre Dame, whose added worth is gauged to be comparable to the current average B1G media contract share), no current Big 12 member will see its share of the current contract decrease due to adding new members from a P5 conference.
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1 year 3 months ago - 1 year 3 months ago #31323
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2023-07-31
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SWAIM SHOW
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Told each #Pac12 team gets $19.7M per team and virtually every game will be streaming. Is that good enough for your team?
8:34 PM · Jul 31, 2023
AZ President will have done his due diligence and can point to this as final indicator that it’s time to “go east, young man!”
Musta found that pocketful of West Coast turnarounds.
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https://twitter.com/GSwaim/status/1686188576185221120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1686188576185221120%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
SWAIM SHOW
@GSwaim
Told each #Pac12 team gets $19.7M per team and virtually every game will be streaming. Is that good enough for your team?
8:34 PM · Jul 31, 2023
AZ President will have done his due diligence and can point to this as final indicator that it’s time to “go east, young man!”
Musta found that pocketful of West Coast turnarounds.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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1 year 3 months ago #31325
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2024-08-01
Interesting comments from a B1G “insider”
(Copy & paste to see actual tweet)
Text:
Greg Flugaur
@flugempire
While Football drives realignment bus the reality is with Big 12 bringing on another top basketball brand to its already #1 BB conference in the country it ensures Big 12 will never be left behind by SEC & Big Ten. Reforming BB Tourny can’t be done without Yormark and Big 12.
6:47 AM · Aug 1, 2023
I do like the way he thinks!
Question though: Is he talking UA or UConn?
Hmmm…
Interesting comments from a B1G “insider”
(Copy & paste to see actual tweet)
https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1686342962823802880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1686342962823802880%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Text:
Greg Flugaur
@flugempire
While Football drives realignment bus the reality is with Big 12 bringing on another top basketball brand to its already #1 BB conference in the country it ensures Big 12 will never be left behind by SEC & Big Ten. Reforming BB Tourny can’t be done without Yormark and Big 12.
6:47 AM · Aug 1, 2023
I do like the way he thinks!
Question though: Is he talking UA or UConn?
Hmmm…
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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1 year 3 months ago - 1 year 3 months ago #31326
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I get a lot of info from JayhawkSlant, but there are certain posters that are considered top notch and SMEs when it comes to realignment, media contracts and conference financial analyses if truth be told. My top two are a fellow handled “cwobrien11” and another “five words”. They are pretty much the “EF Huttons” of the Slant when it comes to this stuff (you know the old ads, “When EF Hutton talks, people listen”).
ANYWAY,
Today five words noted “Fluguar has been NAILS from the get go” regarding the writer of that last text.
High praise from five words…
ANYWAY,
Today five words noted “Fluguar has been NAILS from the get go” regarding the writer of that last text.
High praise from five words…
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1 year 3 months ago #31327
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Absolutely great article on conference realignment.
YahooSports: What's next in college sports conference realignment? Here's where the shaky landscape stands
Ross Dellenger
Senior College Football Reporter
Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 11:04 PM EDT
14 min read
YahooSports: What's next in college sports conference realignment? Here's where the shaky landscape stands
Ross Dellenger
Senior College Football Reporter
Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 11:04 PM EDT
14 min read
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1 year 3 months ago #31341
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Latest as of COB THURSDAY 11:59 PM CT
UTAH reported to be announcing move to Big 12 on Friday
.
Arizona Board of Regents meeting Thursday evening has
ARIZONA moving to Big 12 and
ARIZONZA STATE reluctantly joining them.
Talk is that Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark wants to announce all 3 (completing the “4 Corners” schools with Colorado) once all are officially ready to jump.
Big 12 had meeting Thursday reportedly okaying AZ joining, but likely giving BY the green light on welcoming Utah & ASU.
ALL 4 teams would join next July as full members, bringing the conference to 16 members after th3 departures of OUt.
ESPN and Fox media partners are good to go with expansion to 16, increasing the new media contract by $31.7M per Power 5 program leaving its former home for the Big 12 ($126.8M total increase)
It’s looking as if Oregon and Washington May end up in the B1G, at reduced shares that would still be more than the $31.7M each would get joining the Big 12.
No plans at present for Stanford, Cal, Oregon State or Washington State.
Possibly a merger with Mountain West?
Stanford go independent?
I will say that one thing I like about adding the 4 Corners schools (assuming it comes to pass) is it reinforces the orig8nal conference focus on state flagship or #2 universities as members. And I do believe all are AAU members.
UTAH reported to be announcing move to Big 12 on Friday
.
Arizona Board of Regents meeting Thursday evening has
ARIZONA moving to Big 12 and
ARIZONZA STATE reluctantly joining them.
Talk is that Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark wants to announce all 3 (completing the “4 Corners” schools with Colorado) once all are officially ready to jump.
Big 12 had meeting Thursday reportedly okaying AZ joining, but likely giving BY the green light on welcoming Utah & ASU.
ALL 4 teams would join next July as full members, bringing the conference to 16 members after th3 departures of OUt.
ESPN and Fox media partners are good to go with expansion to 16, increasing the new media contract by $31.7M per Power 5 program leaving its former home for the Big 12 ($126.8M total increase)
It’s looking as if Oregon and Washington May end up in the B1G, at reduced shares that would still be more than the $31.7M each would get joining the Big 12.
No plans at present for Stanford, Cal, Oregon State or Washington State.
Possibly a merger with Mountain West?
Stanford go independent?
I will say that one thing I like about adding the 4 Corners schools (assuming it comes to pass) is it reinforces the orig8nal conference focus on state flagship or #2 universities as members. And I do believe all are AAU members.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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1 year 3 months ago #31346
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I’m excited about CU because Boulder is a short drive from Cheyenne meaning KU games in person are much easier.
The remaining additions just drive up the size of the conference which will likely reduce the frequency at which KU plays in Boulder.
The remaining additions just drive up the size of the conference which will likely reduce the frequency at which KU plays in Boulder.
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