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1 year 8 months ago #30595
by asteroid
Addition by subtraction? Iowa State seemed to fade down the stretch, losing
four consecutive games when they were still in a position to challenge for
the conference championship. Then Caleb Grill was dismissed from the team.
Did that change team chemistry enough to enable a whooping of Baylor in the
regular season finale, and then an encore performance in the quarterfinals
of the Big 12 Tournament? The Cyclones lost by only 2 in Allen Field House
and won by 15 in Hilton Coliseum before all the recent drama unfolded.
Definitely need to take the Cyclones seriously.
Unlike yesterday's game, all the prognosticators favor Kansas in today's
game. The most pessimistic are Seven Overtimes and DPPI, which favor Kansas
by only 3 points. The most optimistic is Colley, who favors Kansas by a bit
over 9 points. Next in line is Sagarin's eigenvector analysis, which has the
Jayhawks by a bit over 8 points. The average of 17 prognostications is 4.8
points, with a scatter of 1.8 points. It's worth noting that Colley is not
quite up-to-date with his ratings; yesterday's results haven't been included
yet. Both Kansas and Iowa State played above expectation, Kansas by 13 and
Iowa State by 8, so both would be expected to improve their ratings, but I
would not expect the margin to shrink.
Like West Virginia, the trend and mental toughness ratings for Iowa State are
both negative, but neither is statistically significant. Both values remain
positive for Kansas, but are still not significant. The trend analysis puts
the margin at 4.6 points.
Ames being not that far away, and with fans that travel well to Kansas City,
the crowd advantage will not necessarily be in Kansas' favor.
We'll still be with Norm Roberts instead of Bill Self, but as somebody said
yesterday, with Dajuan Harris as your point guard, who needs a coach? Well,
that undersells the importance of Self, but the comment has some merit to it.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats ISU KU Defensive Stats ISU KU
Points/Game 68.8 75.7 Opp Points/Game 62.5 68.0
Avg Score Margin +6.3 +7.7 Opp Effective FG % 49.8 47.0
Assists/Game 14.3 16.8 Off Rebounds/Gm 9.7 8.5
Total Rebounds/Gm 33.5 36.3 Def Rebounds/Gm 21.0 25.0
Effective FG % 50.9 52.5 Blocks/Game 2.9 3.8
Off Rebound % 31.5 26.7 Steals/Game 8.8 8.8
FTA/FGA 0.279 0.297 Personal Fouls/Gm 19.0 16.8
Turnover % 16.5 15.0
My Stats Comparison KU ISU
=================== ============= ============
performance +0.40 +1.19
inconsistency 11.26 11.65
trend +0.10 ± 0.22 -0.10 ± 0.24
mental toughness +0.12 ± 0.25 -0.11 ± 0.19
average total pts 143.66 131.26
Common Opponents
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There are nine common opponents, eight in conference and Missouri. Both teams have
played all the conference members at least twice, in which case I'll use only the
home-home and road-road permutations. Each has also played one tournament game,
in which case I'll use the neutral-home and neutral-road permutations, and we have
the head-to-head games in Lawrence and Ames, giving us twenty-three scores to compare:
KU +16 BU at home (+12 neutral court) KU -6 BU on road ( -2 neutral court)
ISU +15 BU at home (+11 neutral court) ISU +15 BU on road (+19 neutral court)
KU +1 ISU neutral ( +1 neutral court) KU -21 ISU neutral (-21 neutral court)
KU +23 OU on road (+27 neutral court) KU +4 OU at home ( 0 neutral court)
ISU +3 OU on road ( +7 neutral court) ISU -11 OU at home (-15 neutral court)
KU +20 ISU neutral (+20 neutral court) KU +15 ISU neutral (+15 neutral court)
KU +5 TCU on road ( +9 neutral court) KU -23 TCU at home (-27 neutral court)
ISU +2 TCU on road ( +6 neutral court) ISU +11 TCU at home ( +7 neutral court)
KU +3 ISU neutral ( +3 neutral court) KU -34 ISU neutral (-34 neutral court)
KU +4 TTU at home ( 0 neutral court) KU +3 TTU on road ( +7 neutral court)
ISU +34 TTU at home (+30 neutral court) ISU -3 TTU on road ( +1 neutral court)
KU -30 ISU neutral (-30 neutral court) KU +6 ISU neutral ( +6 neutral court)
KU +8 UT at home ( +4 neutral court) KU -16 UT on road (-12 neutral court)
ISU +11 UT at home ( +7 neutral court) ISU -18 UT on road (-14 neutral court)
KU -3 ISU neutral ( -3 neutral court) KU +2 ISU neutral ( +2 neutral court)
KU +11 OSU on road (+15 neutral court) KU +2 OSU at home ( -2 neutral court)
ISU -2 OSU on road ( +2 neutral court) ISU -8 OSU at home (-12 neutral court)
KU +13 ISU neutral (+13 neutral court) KU +10 ISU neutral (+10 neutral court)
KU +12 KSU at home ( +8 neutral court) KU -1 KSU on road ( +3 neutral court)
ISU +4 KSU at home ( 0 neutral court) ISU -6 KSU on road ( -2 neutral court)
KU +8 ISU neutral ( +8 neutral court) KU +5 ISU neutral ( +5 neutral court)
KU +28 MU on road (+32 neutral court)
ISU -17 MU on road (-13 neutral court)
KU +45 ISU neutral (+45 neutral court)
KU +14 WVU on road (+18 neutral court) KU +2 WVU at home ( -2 neutral court)
ISU -5 WVU on road ( -1 neutral court) ISU -3 WVU at home ( -7 neutral court)
KU +19 ISU neutral (+19 neutral court) KU +5 ISU neutral ( +5 neutral court)
KU +16 BU at home (+12 neutral court) KU -6 BU on road ( -2 neutral court)
ISU +6 BU neutral ( +6 neutral court) ISU +6 BU neutral ( +6 neutral court)
KU +6 ISU neutral ( +6 neutral court) KU -8 ISU neutral ( -8 neutral court)
KU +17 WVU neutral (+17 neutral court) KU +17 WVU neutral (+17 neutral court)
ISU -5 WVU on road ( -1 neutral court) ISU -3 WVU at home ( -7 neutral court)
KU +18 ISU neutral (+18 neutral court) KU +24 ISU neutral (+24 neutral court)
KU +2 ISU at home ( -2 neutral court) KU -15 ISU on road (-11 neutral court)
KU -2 ISU neutral ( -2 neutral court) KU -11 ISU neutral (-11 neutral court)
Sixteen of the comparisons favor Kansas, and seven favor Iowa State, including both
of the head-to-head comparisons. The average favors Kansas by 3.96 points, with a
scatter of 17.47 points.
Players to Watch
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most minutes Gabe Kalscheur (guard)
most points Jaren Holmes (guard)
most rebounds Aljaz Kunc (forward)
most assists Tamin Lipsey (guard)
most steals Tamin Lipsey (guard)
most blocks Osun Osunniyi (center)
most turnovers Tamin Lipsey (guard)
most fouls Robert Jones (forward)
Caleb Grill has been dismissed from the team; he was third in minutes played per
game and third in points scored per game, but as noted above, is this addition by
subtraction?
25-6 19-12
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Iowa State
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall +4.97 71 66 68 # 6 # 1 # 26 # 2
Sagarin Predictor +3.67 70 66 62.6 # 7 # 1 # 22 # 2
Sagarin Golden Mean +5.60 71 65 # 4 # 1 # 25 # 2
Sagarin Recent Games +5.34 71 65 # 5 # 1 # 27 # 2
Sagarin Eigenvector +8.14 72 64 77
Massey +6.00 70 64 70 # 2 # 1 # 23 # 4
Pomeroy +3.15 67 64 # 8 # 1 # 20 # 5
Greenfield +4.50 67 63 62.6 # 8 # 1 # 21 # 5
Dunkel +6.00 72 66 # 3 # 37
Vegas (via Dunkel) +4.50 67 63
Dolphin Predictive +3.04 66 63 61.1 # 8 # 1 # 13 # 3
Real Time # 3 # 4 # 69 # 12
Seven Overtimes +3.00 70 67 71 # 14 # 1 # 44 # 13
DPPI +3.00 70 67 58.0 # 7 # 1 # 21 # 8
ESPN BPI +3.20 62.4 # 9 # 1 # 19 # 4
Whitlock +4.32 # 5 # 1 # 25 # 8
Colley Matrix +9.23 # 2 # 1 # 44 # 10
NCAA NET # 8 # 17
LRMC # 12 # 2 # 30 # 19
common opponents +3.96
Massey composite # 4 # 29
Pomeroy offense # 27 # 90
Pomeroy defense # 8 # 7
Pomeroy tempo # 74 #328
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +4.80 69.5 64.9 65.9
scatter 1.80 2.1 1.5 6.0
Here is Kansas' season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #318 Omaha(Neb.-Omaha) 89 64 +29.85 -4.85
HOME #218 North Dakota State 82 59 +23.47 -0.47
NEUT # 21 Duke 69 64 +3.66 +1.34
HOME #125 Southern Utah 82 76 +17.91 -11.91
NEUT # 46 NC State 80 74 +6.44 -0.44
NEUT # 56 Wisconsin 69 68 +7.75 -6.75
NEUT # 2 Tennessee 50 64 -1.73 -12.27
HOME #291 Texas Southern 87 55 +28.06 +3.94
HOME # 54 Seton Hall 91 65 +10.60 +15.40
AWAY # 58 Missouri 95 67 +4.80 +23.20
HOME # 14 Indiana 84 62 +6.20 +15.80
HOME #167 Harvard 68 54 +20.82 -6.82
HOME # 38 Oklahoma State 69 67 +8.66 -6.66
AWAY # 35 Texas Tech 75 72 +2.26 +0.74
AWAY # 23 West Virginia 76 62 +0.88 +13.12
HOME # 55 Oklahoma 79 75 +10.60 -6.60
HOME # 22 Iowa State 62 60 +6.80 -4.80
AWAY # 29 Kansas State 82 83 +1.24 -2.24
HOME # 15 TCU 60 83 +6.30 -29.30
AWAY # 12 Baylor 69 75 -1.80 -4.20
AWAY # 20 Kentucky 77 68 +0.51 +8.49
HOME # 29 Kansas State 90 78 +7.50 +4.50
AWAY # 22 Iowa State 53 68 +0.54 -15.54
HOME # 8 Texas 88 80 +3.17 +4.83
AWAY # 55 Oklahoma 78 55 +4.34 +18.66
AWAY # 38 Oklahoma State 87 76 +2.40 +8.60
HOME # 12 Baylor 87 71 +4.46 +11.54
AWAY # 15 TCU 63 58 +0.04 +4.96
HOME # 23 West Virginia 76 74 +7.14 -5.14
HOME # 35 Texas Tech 67 63 +8.52 -4.52
AWAY # 8 Texas 59 75 -3.09 -12.91
NEUT # 23 West Virginia 78 61 +4.01 +12.99
NEUT # 22 Iowa State +3.67 0.626
Here is Iowa States's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #358 IUPUI 88 39 +32.68 +16.32
HOME #315 NC A&T 80 43 +26.04 +10.96
HOME #228 Milwaukee 68 53 +20.70 -5.70
NEUT # 49 Villanova 81 79 +3.15 -1.15
NEUT # 33 North Carolina 70 65 +1.48 +3.52
NEUT # 5 Connecticut 53 71 -4.33 -13.67
HOME #284 North Dakota 63 44 +24.12 -5.12
HOME # 77 St. John's 71 60 +9.20 +1.80
AWAY # 26 Iowa 56 75 -2.63 -16.37
HOME #333 McNeese State 77 40 +28.23 +8.77
HOME #287 Western Michigan 73 57 +24.25 -8.25
HOME # 12 Baylor 77 62 +0.79 +14.21
AWAY # 55 Oklahoma 63 60 +0.67 +2.33
AWAY # 15 TCU 69 67 -3.63 +5.63
HOME # 35 Texas Tech 84 50 +4.85 +29.15
AWAY # 7 Kansas 60 62 -6.80 +4.80
HOME # 8 Texas 78 67 -0.50 +11.50
AWAY # 38 Oklahoma State 59 61 -1.27 -0.73
HOME # 29 Kansas State 80 76 +3.83 +0.17
AWAY # 58 Missouri 61 78 +1.13 -18.13
AWAY # 35 Texas Tech 77 80 -1.41 -1.59
HOME # 7 Kansas 68 53 -0.54 +15.54
AWAY # 23 West Virginia 71 76 -2.79 -2.21
HOME # 38 Oklahoma State 56 64 +4.99 -12.99
HOME # 15 TCU 70 59 +2.63 +8.37
AWAY # 29 Kansas State 55 61 -2.43 -3.57
AWAY # 8 Texas 54 72 -6.76 -11.24
HOME # 55 Oklahoma 50 61 +6.93 -17.93
HOME # 23 West Virginia 69 72 +3.47 -6.47
AWAY # 12 Baylor 73 58 -5.47 +20.47
NEUT # 12 Baylor 78 72 -2.34 +8.34
NEUT # 7 Kansas -3.67 0.374
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