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1 year 8 months ago #30546
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Init Rd 1 Rd 2 Rd 3 Rd 4 Rd 5 Rd 6 Rd 7 Rd 8 Rd 9 Rd10 Rd11 Rd12 Rd13 Rd14 Rd15
Pred Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj Proj
Rank Big XII Team Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins
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# 7 Kansas 11.6 11.4 12.0 13.1 12.8 12.9 12.3 11.3 10.8 11.2 10.6 11.1 11.4 12.0 12.4 12.9
# 8 Texas 11.3 11.6 10.5 11.2 11.4 11.7 11.0 11.6 12.0 12.3 12.7 12.3 12.7 12.0 12.2 12.5
# 27 Kansas State 6.4 7.2 8.8 9.6 10.1 9.5 10.2 10.7 10.5 10.3 9.9 10.5 10.0 9.4 9.9 10.5
# 11 Baylor 10.7 9.8 9.0 7.9 8.7 9.1 9.8 10.3 10.9 10.4 10.7 10.9 11.5 11.8 11.4 10.9
# 25 Iowa State 7.5 8.5 9.1 10.1 11.2 11.0 11.6 11.2 11.4 10.6 11.1 10.7 9.9 10.4 10.0 9.6
# 18 TCU 8.4 9.1 10.0 9.2 9.0 9.7 9.0 10.0 10.5 10.7 10.2 9.7 9.1 8.6 9.0 8.5
# 37 Oklahoma State 8.4 8.2 8.6 7.9 7.3 6.9 7.3 7.8 7.4 8.2 8.7 9.0 9.8 9.3 8.8 8.4
# 23 West Virginia 9.3 8.3 7.7 6.9 6.2 5.7 6.5 5.9 6.7 6.3 6.8 7.2 6.8 6.5 5.8 6.3
# 32 Texas Tech 9.1 8.8 8.1 7.1 6.3 6.3 5.5 5.0 4.2 4.8 4.4 4.0 4.6 5.2 5.9 6.4
# 51 Oklahoma 7.3 7.1 6.2 7.0 7.0 7.2 6.8 6.2 5.6 5.2 4.9 4.6 4.2 4.8 4.6 4.0
Rd16 Rd17
Pred Proj Proj Conf
Rank Big XII Team Wins Wins Recrd Next Game Prediction
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# 7 Kansas 13.2 13.4 13 5 tbd Thu
# 8 Texas 12.0 11.6 12 6 tbd Thu
# 27 Kansas State 11.1 11.4 11 7 TCU Thu KSU 75 TCU 74
# 11 Baylor 11.3 11.7 11 7 ISU Thu BU 68 ISU 67
# 25 Iowa State 8.9 8.3 9 9 BU Thu
# 18 TCU 9.0 9.5 9 9 KSU Thu
# 37 Oklahoma State 7.8 7.4 8 10 OU Wed OSU 67 OU 66
# 23 West Virginia 6.0 6.6 7 11 TTU Wed WVU 76 TTU 73
# 32 Texas Tech 5.9 5.6 5 13 WVU Wed
# 51 Oklahoma 4.8 4.5 5 13 OSU Wed
How did the teams do in reality compared to their pre-conference-season projection?
We've seen differences of 3-some wins in previous seasons, but they've been rare.
Differences as large as 4 wins may well be unprecedented.
Team Prediction Actual Differance
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Kansas State 6.4 11 +4.6
Iowa State 7.5 9 +1.5
Kansas 11.6 13 +1.4
Texas 11.3 12 +0.7
TCU 8.4 9 +0.6
Baylor 10.7 11 +0.3
Oklahoma State 8.4 8 -0.4
West Virginia 9.3 7 -2.3
Oklahoma 7.3 5 -2.3
Texas Tech 9.1 5 -4.1
The BPI took honors for best prognostications in Round 18 with a total error of 57 points. My trend
analysis pulled up the rear with a total error of 78.4 points. Vegas won the season with an average
error of 9.0 points per game, with Dunkel in last place at 10.7 points per game. As in previous
seasons, it's not entirely an apples to apples comparison, as some prognosticators only work in
integer points, like Massey, while others work in half-integer points, like Dunkel and Vegas, so to
be fair, which prognosticators fell within a half point of Vegas? Sagarin Overall (9.2), Sagarin
Predictor (9.2), Sagarin Golden Mean (9.2), Sagarin Recent Games (9.3), Massey (9.1), Pomeroy (9.3),
Greenfield (9.1), Dolphin (9.1), Colley (9.4), Whitlock (9.3), BPI (9.2), Seven Overtimes (9.1), my
performance tweak to Sagarin Predictor (9.2), my home court advantage tweak to Sagarin Predictor (9.1).
It would have been easier to list the ones that failed to measure up: Sagarin Eigenvector (9.8),
Dunkel (10.7), Real Time (9.7), and my trend analysis (10.1). Dunkel is really bad at this.
Only one road win had been projected for Round 18, but two happened. We ended the regular
season two road wins ahead of the long-term one-in-three ratio, but that result is within
the range we've seen in previous seasons, so nothing unusual. Actually, it's somewhat
amazing that the fraction of road wins is so predictable, even in a conference with as much
parity as the Big 12 had this season. Admittedly, things looked a little strange at the very
beginning of the season, when road wins piled up quickly, but the rate settled down.
Road wins (32 out of 90) Home losses RW-HL
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5 Kansas TTU WVU OU OSU TCU 1 Kansas TCU +4 KU
5 Baylor WVU TTU OU TCU OSU 1 Kansas State UT +3 UT
4 Texas OU OSU WVU KSU 1 Texas KSU +2 BU
3 Iowa State OU TCU BU 3 Baylor TCU KSU ISU +2 KSU
3 Kansas State UT BU OSU 3 Iowa State OSU OU WVU 0 TCU
3 Oklahoma State OU ISU TTU 3 TCU ISU BU KU 0 ISU
3 TCU BU KU TTU 4 Oklahoma State UT KU KSU BU -1 OSU
2 Oklahoma TTU ISU 4 West Virginia KU BU UT TTU -2 WVU
2 Texas Tech WVU OU 6 Oklahoma UT ISU BU OSU KU TTU -4 OU
2 West Virginia TTU ISU 6 Texas Tech KU OU BU WVU TCU OSU -4 TTU
Performance (points) Inconsistency (points)
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Kansas State +1.29 Oklahoma State 8.79
Iowa State +1.27 Kansas State 9.29
West Virginia +1.13 Texas 10.57
Texas +0.98 Baylor 10.95
Kansas +0.26 Kansas 11.27
TCU -0.04 Texas Tech 11.57
Oklahoma State -0.26 Iowa State 11.77
Oklahoma -0.34 West Virginia 12.09
Baylor -0.51 Oklahoma 12.28
Texas Tech -0.67 TCU 13.10
Trend (points per game) Mental toughness
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TCU +0.18 +/- 0.27 Oklahoma +0.19 +/- 0.24
Kansas State +0.13 +/- 0.19 TCU +0.17 +/- 0.20
Oklahoma +0.06 +/- 0.25 Kansas +0.11 +/- 0.25
Kansas +0.02 +/- 0.23 Kansas State -0.04 +/- 0.18
Texas Tech 0.00 +/- 0.24 West Virginia -0.06 +/- 0.24
Oklahoma State -0.03 +/- 0.18 Iowa State -0.12 +/- 0.20
Texas -0.06 +/- 0.22 Texas -0.19 +/- 0.17
Baylor -0.10 +/- 0.22 Oklahoma State -0.20 +/- 0.18
West Virginia -0.11 +/- 0.25 Baylor -0.30 +/- 0.18
Iowa State -0.16 +/- 0.25 Texas Tech -0.35 +/- 0.18
Average offense (pts) Average defense (pts) Total Points Scoring Margin (pts)
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Texas 78.32 Iowa State 62.50 West Virginia 147.84 Texas +9.13
Baylor 76.87 Oklahoma State 67.06 Texas 147.52 TCU +6.74
West Virginia 76.35 Oklahoma 68.19 Baylor 147.32 Kansas +6.71
Kansas State 75.39 TCU 68.39 Kansas State 144.45 Baylor +6.42
Kansas 75.26 Kansas 68.55 Kansas 143.81 Kansas State +6.32
TCU 75.13 Kansas State 69.06 TCU 143.52 Iowa State +5.63
Texas Tech 73.26 Texas Tech 69.16 Texas Tech 142.42 West Virginia +4.87
Oklahoma State 69.26 Texas 69.19 Oklahoma State 136.32 Texas Tech +4.10
Iowa State 68.13 Baylor 70.45 Oklahoma 136.13 Oklahoma State +2.19
Oklahoma 67.94 West Virginia 71.48 Iowa State 130.63 Oklahoma -0.26
All Big 12 teams have strength of schedule ratings above 80. Kansas crashed through the 83 level.
Schedule Strength
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Kansas 83.04 ( 1)
Oklahoma 82.50 ( 2)
Iowa State 82.46 ( 3)
Baylor 82.16 ( 5)
West Virginia 82.15 ( 6)
Oklahoma State 81.55 ( 8)
Texas 81.50 ( 9)
TCU 80.56 ( 15)
Kansas State 80.28 ( 21)
Texas Tech 80.01 ( 25)
Home court advantage analysis is underway. This may be the last season for which such an
analysis will be straightforward, as the new Big 12 will feature an unbalanced schedule.
I can already state that the home court advantage in the Big 12 was once again larger than
the national average, as my home court advantage tweak to Sagarin Predictor yielded a slight
improvement in average error, 9.1 points per game, compared to 9.2 points per game.
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1 year 8 months ago #30547
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Thanks astroid for the great analysis. Your write ups are always worth taking the time to really look through.
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1 year 8 months ago #30568
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Agreed. Thanks Asteroid for yet another stellar season of stat tracking. I might not always have the time to read the whole post, but your updates are like an ongoing, updated research source that you give us 24/7 access to. Very cool. When I talk to other hoops fans they're often impressed with my "knowledge" of this stuff and most of the time I'm just quoting your stuff. I probably owe you some kind of royalty.
Thanks for doing your thing and making this place such a great resource.
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
hairyhawk wrote: Thanks astroid for the great analysis. Your write ups are always worth taking the time to really look through.
Agreed. Thanks Asteroid for yet another stellar season of stat tracking. I might not always have the time to read the whole post, but your updates are like an ongoing, updated research source that you give us 24/7 access to. Very cool. When I talk to other hoops fans they're often impressed with my "knowledge" of this stuff and most of the time I'm just quoting your stuff. I probably owe you some kind of royalty.
Thanks for doing your thing and making this place such a great resource.
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
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Asteroid and NotO give me a shout, I work with IP licensing, royalties and the sorts. Happy to whip up an agreement- haha!!
Jokes aside, thank you all for all that you do for the site.
Jokes aside, thank you all for all that you do for the site.
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