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Bill Self continues to cement his legacy
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1 year 8 months ago #30517
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From CBS -
www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/new...o-cement-his-legacy/
The best paragraph in the article …..
If you're keeping track, that's now 17 Big 12 regular-season titles for Self in 20 years at KU. For some context, consider that Mike Krzyzewski, widely regarded as the GOAT of college basketball coaching, won 13 regular-season conference titles in 42 years at Duke. So Self has four more than that at Kansas in 22 fewer seasons with the Jayhawks. He also won two WAC regular-season titles (at Tulsa) and two Big Ten regular-season titles at Illinois, which means the following is true: Bill Self has coached in three different leagues in the past 25 years and won 21 regular-season conference championships in that span.
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The best paragraph in the article …..
If you're keeping track, that's now 17 Big 12 regular-season titles for Self in 20 years at KU. For some context, consider that Mike Krzyzewski, widely regarded as the GOAT of college basketball coaching, won 13 regular-season conference titles in 42 years at Duke. So Self has four more than that at Kansas in 22 fewer seasons with the Jayhawks. He also won two WAC regular-season titles (at Tulsa) and two Big Ten regular-season titles at Illinois, which means the following is true: Bill Self has coached in three different leagues in the past 25 years and won 21 regular-season conference championships in that span.
RCJGKU
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1 year 8 months ago #30522
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"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
I'd seen the Self/K comparison with Self's KU record. Adding in the Illinois and Tulsa info really makes this a remarkable thing.
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
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1 year 8 months ago #30526
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Coach K fanboys will argue that over most of that time the ACC was stronger than the B8/B12 (at least over his first 30 years or so). Valid argument...to a point, but the gap is way too large to claim anything of substance.
Now, if Self could win another NCAA Nat or two there'd be little question.
Now, if Self could win another NCAA Nat or two there'd be little question.
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1 year 8 months ago #30528
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"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
"to a point" is the key phrase and I'd still want to see a statistical analysis. The Big 12 under Self has never been a slouch league and more recently it's been the strongest. Even at his peak, K only won 11 between 1986-2006. At this point, Self would have to go on a multi-year slide to tie K.
Nevertheless, NCs have a way of shutting people up.
Nevertheless, NCs have a way of shutting people up.
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1 year 8 months ago #30529
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I think the UI and Tulsa Championships help show it is the coach. 21 league championships in 25 years of coaching, 3 different leagues, is stupid great.
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