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2 years 2 days ago #29815
by asteroid
Talk about early tips. 7:00 a.m. Hawaii time. It's already 3 a.m. and Sagarin
doesn't have his predictions up yet. He's the only one I'm really waiting for.
When it finally does get posted, I'm likely to update this summary, post it, and
get a few hours of sleep, but without adding much more chit chat. I will note
that not-ready-for-prime-time Real Time has it as a home game for Kansas, and
Real Time likes to use a large home court advantage, something like 8 points in
prior seasons, so I'd take that 18 point margin with a grain of salt. Whitlock's
18.5 point margin is based on last season's ratings, as he is not yet on board
for this season. The only "legitimate" prediction for a margin that large is
Dunkel, who is picking the Jayhawks by 17.5 points.
Nobody has been impressed by the Wolfpack's schedule. The highest rated team
they've played is #231 Canpbell. Save for the Duke game, Kansas hasn't done
that much better. We do have Self back, however. How many points is that worth?
Finally, just before 5 a.m. Sagarin posted his latest ratings. His peculiar
eigenvector analysis is predicting a Kansas loss by 4 points. Everybody else
disagrees.
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Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats NCST KU Defensive Stats NCST KU
Points/Game 88.3 80.5 Opp Points/Game 63.5 65.8
Avg Score Margin +24.8 +14.8 Opp Effective FG % 47.5 42.2
Assists/Game 17.0 20.8 Off Rebounds/Gm 8.5 11.3
Total Rebounds/Gm 37.5 41.3 Def Rebounds/Gm 27.5 28.3
Effective FG % 58.9 54.0 Blocks/Game 4.8 7.5
Off Rebound % 28.3 32.1 Steals/Game 11.0 7.5
FTA/FGA 0.251 0.176 Personal Fouls/Gm 17.0 15.3
Turnover % 13.2 13.6
My Stats Comparison KU NCST
=================== ============= ============
performance -2.28 +5.57
inconsistency 7.36 19.45
trend -2.55 ± 3.60 -10.73 ± 7.47
mental toughness +0.28 ± 0.39 +0.01 ± 3.00
average total pts 146.25 151.75
Common Opponents
================
There are no common opponents.
Players to Watch
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most minutes Terquavion Smith (guard)
most points Terquavion Smith (guard)
most rebounds Dusan Mahorcic (forward)
most assists Terquavion Smith (guard)
most steals Terquavion Smith (guard)
most blocks two-way tie
most turnovers Terquavion Smith (guard)
most fouls D. J. Burns (forward)
Seems rather one-dimensional. Put Marcus Garrett on Smith, and we'll be fine.
Oh, wait...
4-0 4-0
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas NC State
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall +6.48 79 73 71 # 11 #269 # 53 #351
Sagarin Predictor +5.65 79 73 65.0 # 10 #269 # 46 #351
Sagarin Golden Mean +7.98 80 72 # 4 #269 # 52 #351
Sagarin Recent Games +6.33 79 73 # 17 #269 # 55 #351
Sagarin Eigenvector -3.92 74 78 37
Massey +10.00 79 69 79 # 1 # 39 # 60 #310
Pomeroy +8.83 79 70 # 11 #260 # 69 #348
Greenfield +8.50 80 72 # 23 # 27 # 54 #299
Dunkel +17.50 81 64 # 2 # 80
Vegas (via Dunkel) +8.50 80 71
Dolphin Predictive +6.09 77 71 69.2 # 14 # 20 # 44 #316
Real Time +18.00 83 65 81.1 # 5 #205 # 57 #198
Seven Overtimes +5.00 77 72 56 # 38 #131 # 10 #331
DPPI # # # #
ESPN BPI +3.50 62.4 # 17 #208 # 56 #350
Whitlock *** +18.53 # # # #
Colley Matrix +0.24 # 30 #306 # 34 #313
NCAA NET # #
LRMC # # # #
common opponents
Massey composite # 5 # 59
Pomeroy offense # 28 # 46
Pomeroy defense # 8 # 97
Pomeroy tempo # 72 # 53
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +7.95 79.0 71.0 65.1
scatter 6.07 2.2 3.6 14.0
Here is Kansas' season, for which the current season projection is a 22-9
record, assuming the higher rated teams advance in the Battle 4 Atlantis:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #314 Omaha(Neb.-Omaha) 89 64 +27.60 -2.60
HOME #216 North Dakota State 82 59 +21.93 +1.07
NEUT # 13 Duke 69 64 +0.23 +4.77
HOME #156 Southern Utah 82 76 +18.35 -12.35
NEUT # 46 NC State +5.65 0.650
----- one of the following two games -----
NEUT # 38 Wisconsin +5.13 0.708
NEUT # 59 Dayton +7.88 0.730
----- one of the following four games -----
NEUT # 22 Tennessee +1.85 0.578
NEUT # 35 Butler +4.49 0.684
NEUT # 58 BYU +7.41 0.786
NEUT # 69 Southern California +8.78 0.826
-----
HOME #225 Texas Southern +22.61 0.992
HOME # 31 Seton Hall +6.88 0.769
AWAY # 78 Missouri +6.47 0.749
HOME # 6 Indiana +2.40 0.601
HOME #182 Harvard +19.77 0.983
HOME # 61 Oklahoma State +11.16 0.886
AWAY # 25 Texas Tech -0.61 0.473
AWAY # 27 West Virginia -0.40 0.479
HOME # 50 Oklahoma +9.78 0.850
HOME # 37 Iowa State +7.93 0.784
AWAY # 51 Kansas State +3.36 0.665
HOME # 97 TCU +14.55 0.947
AWAY # 3 Baylor -5.52 0.266
AWAY # 9 Kentucky -3.33 0.359
HOME # 51 Kansas State +9.82 0.893
AWAY # 37 Iowa State +1.47 0.558
HOME # 4 Texas +1.54 0.577
AWAY # 50 Oklahoma +3.32 0.638
AWAY # 61 Oklahoma State +4.70 0.694
HOME # 3 Baylor +0.94 0.542
AWAY # 97 TCU +8.09 0.815
HOME # 27 West Virginia +6.06 0.783
HOME # 25 Texas Tech +5.85 0.741
AWAY # 4 Texas -4.92 0.268
Here is North Carolina State's season-to-date:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #273 Austin Peay 99 50 +19.65 +29.35
HOME #162 Campbell 73 67 +13.08 -7.08
HOME #280 Fla. International 107 74 +19.83 +13.17
HOME #331 Elon 74 63 +24.18 -13.18
NEUT # 10 Kansas -5.65 0.350
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