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Re: our Top 5 personnel losses, who will be the hardest to replace?
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Poll: Of these Top 5 personnel losses, who will be hardest to replace?
Ochai |
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No votes | 0% |
Remy |
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3 | 50% |
Christian |
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No votes | 0% |
Jalen |
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No votes | 0% |
DAVE |
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3 | 50% |
Total number of voters: 6 | |||
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2 years 6 months ago - 2 years 6 months ago #29299
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
I would not have thought so back in early February, but today my answer is DAVE, because (1) he just kept getting better and better (as he amazingly seemed to manage to get healthier) as the season progressed, capstoning with his NCAA play, and (2) HCBS arguably has clearer options for filling the other losses that appear to be better fits for the roles they will be asked to fill. While HCBS has lots of options to replace DAVE, he has no proven Big Man defender in the middle.
Ochai - Gradey Dick (many think an OAD)
Remy - shooting and "je ne sais quoi" made up for among several players, including Bobby Pettiford (KU's "next great guard" per HCBS) and MJ Rice (who views himself an OAD) at F
Christian - Kevin McCullar looks to be his backfill. Hurt in the G League combine, he has said if he withdraws it will be KANSAS or Gonzaga, and everything I have been reading says "KANSAS" (reports are Self wants him "badly").
Jalen - MJ Rice (who believes himself to be an OAD talent) and/or KJ Adams (expect great strides next season!)
DAVE - many bodies will different skill sets, but NONE of them have shown they can be a Defensive Big Man in the Middle, which DAVE was in March and April. Love Zach Clemence (weight room, young fellow), looking forward to Ernest Udeh, Jr (can he play the needed D?) and sharp shooting Cam Martin can be expected to post low and to pop out to hit big from away or dump down to a teammate as the D moves out with him. None of them at present look to be able to provide that anchor in the middle that DAVE became in late February and throughout March into April.
What do you think? Here is the roster as is, without Braun or Wilson. Add in 6-6/210 defensive wizard G McCullar, considered by the TTech radio guys to be the offensive "catalyst" for TTech last season.
ROSTER LEGEND & NOTES
$ Walk on (paying to play... )
* Past Red Shirt
^ Redshirting this season
# Graduate transfer
SSr Super Senior
a. Son of KU grads Kent & Missy McCarthy (see McCarthy Hall); great-grandson of KU MBB great Howard Engelman
b. Grandson of Joanie Stephens, Admin Assistant to HC Self.
c. Son of former KU Assistant Coach Tim Jankovich
d. Son of KU alums Sandy & Mike Evers (pronounced EE-vers), who both ran track at KU. Brother Stone is a pitcher on the KU baseball team.
Ochai - Gradey Dick (many think an OAD)
Remy - shooting and "je ne sais quoi" made up for among several players, including Bobby Pettiford (KU's "next great guard" per HCBS) and MJ Rice (who views himself an OAD) at F
Christian - Kevin McCullar looks to be his backfill. Hurt in the G League combine, he has said if he withdraws it will be KANSAS or Gonzaga, and everything I have been reading says "KANSAS" (reports are Self wants him "badly").
Jalen - MJ Rice (who believes himself to be an OAD talent) and/or KJ Adams (expect great strides next season!)
DAVE - many bodies will different skill sets, but NONE of them have shown they can be a Defensive Big Man in the Middle, which DAVE was in March and April. Love Zach Clemence (weight room, young fellow), looking forward to Ernest Udeh, Jr (can he play the needed D?) and sharp shooting Cam Martin can be expected to post low and to pop out to hit big from away or dump down to a teammate as the D moves out with him. None of them at present look to be able to provide that anchor in the middle that DAVE became in late February and throughout March into April.
What do you think? Here is the roster as is, without Braun or Wilson. Add in 6-6/210 defensive wizard G McCullar, considered by the TTech radio guys to be the offensive "catalyst" for TTech last season.
# NAME POS HT / WT CLASS HOMETOWN HS/PRIOR COLLEGE
0 Bobby Pettiford G 6-1/190 So Durham NC South Granville
1 Joseph Yesufu G 6-0/180 Jr Bolingbrook IL Bolingbrook/Drake
3 Dajuan Harris Jr. G 6-1/170 Jr* Columbia MO Rock Bridge
5 Kyle Cuffe Jr. G 6-2/180 Fr* Harlem NJ Blair Academy
13 Charlie McCarthy$a G 6-2/195 So Rancho Mirage CA Shadow Hills
15 Dillon Wilhite$b F/C 6-9/240 Fr* San Diego CA Cathedral Catholic
20 Michael Jankovich$c G 6-5/190 Sr Dallas TX Northfield, Mt Hermon MA
21 Zach Clemence F 6-10/225 So San Antonio TX Sunrise Christian, Bel Aire
24 KJ Adams Jr. F 6-7/225 So Austin TX Westlake
31 Cam Martin# C/F 6-9/230 SSr* Yukon OK Yukon/MO Southern St
nn Wilder Evans$d G 6-3/190 Fr Birmingham AL Oak Mountain
nn Gradey Dick F 6-7/195 Fr Bel Aire KS Sunrise Christian, Bel Aire
nn MJ Rice F 6-5/200 Fr Durham NC Prolific Prep, Napa CA
nn Ernest Udeh Jr. C 6-10/232 Fr Orlando FL Dr Phillips
nn Zuby Ejiofor C 6-8/220 Fr Garland TX Garland
nn 13th Scholarship Player??
nn 18th Player unknown Walk-on??
$ Walk on (paying to play... )
* Past Red Shirt
^ Redshirting this season
# Graduate transfer
SSr Super Senior
a. Son of KU grads Kent & Missy McCarthy (see McCarthy Hall); great-grandson of KU MBB great Howard Engelman
b. Grandson of Joanie Stephens, Admin Assistant to HC Self.
c. Son of former KU Assistant Coach Tim Jankovich
d. Son of KU alums Sandy & Mike Evers (pronounced EE-vers), who both ran track at KU. Brother Stone is a pitcher on the KU baseball team.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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2 years 6 months ago #29301
by CorpusJayhawk
Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
Agree on Dave. I will repost the player rating chart later. Dave’s woes were overstated. They were real but overstated. And I think the gist of your analysis answers the specific question, “who will be toughest to replace?”. Dave was not necessarily the best
Or most important but his particular skill set will be toughest to replace. One could make an argument for Clemence, Udeh or Ejiofor. All are very different players. Count me in the camp that David was denied his rightful MOP in the final because of the ridiculous voting cutoff time. ThaT may be the stupidest rule I I ever heard of. Sort of like saying what can possibly happen in the final 2 minutes of a giant close game that could really matter. Seriously brain dead decision. Dave will be missed both as a fine young man and his presence in the middle. But as the great philosopher Sonny Bono said, the beat goes on.
Or most important but his particular skill set will be toughest to replace. One could make an argument for Clemence, Udeh or Ejiofor. All are very different players. Count me in the camp that David was denied his rightful MOP in the final because of the ridiculous voting cutoff time. ThaT may be the stupidest rule I I ever heard of. Sort of like saying what can possibly happen in the final 2 minutes of a giant close game that could really matter. Seriously brain dead decision. Dave will be missed both as a fine young man and his presence in the middle. But as the great philosopher Sonny Bono said, the beat goes on.
Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
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2 years 6 months ago #29302
by Illhawk
There's a lot of talent heading into the draft. All of them will be missed.
But, more than any one of them the hardest to replace will be experience, and that cohesion that developed playing together for multiple seasons. Teams that are old, talented and play well together are rare in college hoops.
But, more than any one of them the hardest to replace will be experience, and that cohesion that developed playing together for multiple seasons. Teams that are old, talented and play well together are rare in college hoops.
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