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2 years 8 months ago #28734
by asteroid
Let's focus on one number in particular: the inconsistency for Kansas this
season has been 9.8 points. Statistically that means the Jayhawks have played
68 percent of their games within 9.8 points of expectation, where "expectation"
is based on the latest Sagarin Predictor ratings. That also means the Jayhawks
have played 32 percent of their games by more than 9.8 points of expectation,
with 16 percent above expectation and 16 percent below expectation. In a six
game tournament, that means the odds favor playing one game by more than 9.8
points below expectation, one game by more than 9.8 points above expectation,
and the other four games within 9.8 points of expectation. Considering the
likely opponents in subsequent rounds, this first game is the only one in
which the Jayhawks can afford to play more than 9.8 points below expectation
and still advance in the tournament.
Not that I'm recommending the Jayhawks play below expectation on purpose to
get that one stinker of a game out of the way. The odds do not guarantee that
a team will play one of those stinker games. Indeed, the likely national
champion will be a team that avoids playing one of those stinker games. But
those higher seeded teams who bow out prematurely inevitably do so because
they played one of those stinker games. Yes, to a certain extent, the
tournament is a bit of a crap shoot. No team plays perfectly consistently.
Indeed, I'm a little concerned that Ochai might develop the same "last game"
jitters that he did for Senior Day, if the Jayhawks make it to the finals.
Fortunately, Remy seems to have recovered at just the right time to help the
Jayhawks make a deep run in this tournament.
Now let's look at this specific game. The Jayhawks' worst game of the season
came against Kentucky, when they played 21.2 points below expectation. Kansas
is favored by 21.9 points against Texas Southern, based on the Sagarin Predictor
ratings following Tuesday's First Four games in which Texas Southern participated.
To lose would require a disastrous season-worst performance by the Jayhawks.
Kansas has played four consecutive games above expectation. Although the trend
in recent games may be positive, depending on just how many games you consider
to be "recent", the season-long trend is still slightly negative, though not
statistically significant. The mental toughness rating for the Jayhawks is
negative and of marginal statistical significance, but remember, that means
the weaker the opponent, the more above-expectation you play, so against Texas
Southern, the Jayhawks actually pick up 3 to 4 points.
Aside from Dunkel, who I'll discuss separately, the pessimists are the DPPI
and Sagarin's Recent Games, who favor Kansas by just 16 points. The optimists
are Sagarin's Eigenvector Analysis and Seven Overtimes, who favor Kansas by
27 or more points.
What is with Dunkel? There were some pretty bizarre predictions during the
regular season, a couple of which were corrected, but the software he's using
seems broken. His rankings page has Kansas ranked 7 and Texas Southern
ranked 162. Okay, seems reasonable. However, in the game prediction, Dunkel
says Kansas is ranked 61, while Texas Southern is ranked 40! Is that why his
predicted margin is only 4 points in favor of Kansas? But shouldn't Texas
Southern be favored if they're ranked 21 spots higher? Similarly, he's got
Baylor winning by just 5, compared to Vegas' 20.5, and his ranking for Baylor
is 62. Those can't be right.
Unlike the Big 12 Tournament, RealTime has put up predictions for the NCAA
Tournament games. Except he has Kansas playing Texas A&M Corpus Christi.
See what I mean when I say that RealTime isn't ready for Prime Time?
Anyway, the average is 20.3 points in favor of Kansas, unless you omit
Dunkel, in which case it rises to 21.4 points, a bit less than the Sagarin
Predictor margin.
Texas Southern's ranking is in the high 200s, putting them on a par with
Tarleton and Stony Brook, both of which Kansas scored 88 points against,
and won by at least 26 points. But it's been a while since Kansas played
those weaker opponents in the non-conference portion of the season. Then
again, it's been a while since Texas Southern played anybody ranked in the
Top 200 of Division I. The Tigers opened the season entirely on the road,
making money for their athletic program by playing sacrificial lamb for some
power conference opponents, playing five Top 100 teams, losing to all but
Florida. Despite their non-conference schedule, Texas Southern's strength
of schedule ranks #348 out of 358 Division I teams, according to Sagarin.
The Southwestern Conference just didn't offer much in the way of decent
competition. It sort of looks like the win against Florida may have given
them enough confidence to win the Southwestern Conference. But they played
31 points above expectation in that game, which has an incredibly low
probability of occurring even once in a season, let alone a second time.
But hey, it's called March Madness for a reason. Underestimate an opponent,
and you go home.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats TS KU Defensive Stats TS KU
Points/Game 69.2 78.6 Opp Points/Game 65.5 68.1
Avg Score Margin +3.7 +10.4 Opp Effective FG % 44.9 46.9
Assists/Game 10.7 15.4 Off Rebounds/Gm 10.6 9.1
Total Rebounds/Gm 39.5 37.4 Def Rebounds/Gm 25.2 25.1
Effective FG % 48.7 54.1 Blocks/Game 5.0 4.1
Off Rebound % 32.9 32.2 Steals/Game 5.6 6.4
FTA/FGA 0.327 0.328 Personal Fouls/Gm 17.8 15.9
Turnover % 18.2 15.3
My Stats Comparison KU TS
=================== ============= ============
performance +0.54 +1.48
inconsistency 9.79 11.16
trend -0.05 ± 0.17 -0.03 ± 0.23
mental toughness -0.19 ± 0.25 +0.02 ± 0.20
average total pts 146.74 134.68
Common Opponents
================
There was supposed to be a common opponent, namely TCU, but that game got
canceled as a result of COVID protocol.
Players to Watch
================
most minutes Kolby Granger (guard)
most points John Walker III (forward)
most rebounds Brison Gresham (forward)
most assists Jordan Gilliam (guard)
most steals PJ Henry (guard)
most blocks Kolby Granger (guard)
most turnovers Joirdon Karl Nicholas (forward)
most fouls Joirdon Karl Nicholas (forward)
28-6 19-12
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Texas South.
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall +21.66 80 58 95 # 3 # 4 #207 #348
Sagarin Predictor +21.94 80 58 98.2 # 5 # 4 #210 #348
Sagarin Golden Mean +21.78 80 58 # 2 # 4 #206 #348
Sagarin Recent Games +16.18 77 61 # 6 # 4 #131 #348
Sagarin Eigenvector +27.75 83 55 97
Massey +18.00 80 62 95 # 3 # 3 #191 #242
Pomeroy +18.37 78 60 # 6 # 3 #183 #315
Greenfield +21.50 83 62 # 5 # 3 #188 #263
Dunkel +4.00 77 73 # 7 #162
Vegas (via Dunkel) +22.00 83.5 61.5
Dolphin Predictive +20.54 83 62 96.4 # 6 # 4 #188 #274
Real Time # 5 # 3 #189 #350
Seven Overtimes +27.00 84 57 91 # 3 # 3 #274 #346
DPPI +16.00 79 63 90.1 # # # #
ESPN BPI +22.60 96.8 # 9 # 11 #174 #243
Whitlock +21.31 # 3 # 2 #197 #304
Colley Matrix +24.11 # 2 # 3 #201 #326
NCAA NET # 6 #197
LRMC # 6 # 2 #203 #327
common opponents
Massey composite # 3 #202
Pomeroy offense # 6 #269
Pomeroy defense # 28 #100
Pomeroy tempo # 69 #118
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +20.30 80.6 60.8 94.9
scatter 5.43 2.5 4.4 2.9
Here is Kansas' season, including the higher remaining seed:
CUMU.
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB. PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- ----- -----
NEUT # 29 Michigan State 87 74 +6.38 +6.62
HOME #224 Tarleton State 88 62 +25.11 +0.89
HOME #234 Stony Brook-NY 88 59 +25.69 +3.31
NEUT # 83 North Texas 71 59 +12.04 -0.04
NEUT # 57 Dayton 73 74 +9.67 -10.67
NEUT #107 Iona College 96 83 +14.29 -1.29
AWAY # 47 St. John's 95 75 +6.23 +13.77
HOME #162 UTEP 78 52 +21.66 +4.34
HOME #114 Missouri 102 65 +17.79 +19.21
HOME #125 Stephen F. Austin 80 72 +18.72 -10.72
HOME #115 Nevada 88 61 +17.83 +9.17
HOME #113 George Mason 76 67 +17.49 -8.49
AWAY # 42 Oklahoma State 74 63 +5.84 +5.16
AWAY # 14 Texas Tech 67 75 -0.52 -7.48
HOME # 58 Iowa State 62 61 +12.09 -11.09
HOME # 60 West Virginia 85 59 +12.13 +13.87
AWAY # 31 Oklahoma 67 64 +4.62 -1.62
AWAY # 72 Kansas State 78 75 +8.34 -5.34
HOME # 14 Texas Tech 94 91 +4.30 -1.30
HOME # 6 Kentucky 62 80 +3.20 -21.20
AWAY # 58 Iowa State 70 61 +7.27 +1.73
HOME # 4 Baylor 83 59 +2.30 +21.70
AWAY # 19 Texas 76 79 +1.92 -4.92
HOME # 31 Oklahoma 71 69 +9.44 -7.44
HOME # 42 Oklahoma State 76 62 +10.66 +3.34
AWAY # 60 West Virginia 71 58 +7.31 +5.69
HOME # 72 Kansas State 102 83 +13.16 +5.84
AWAY # 4 Baylor 70 80 -2.52 -7.48
AWAY # 46 TCU 64 74 +6.18 -16.18
HOME # 46 TCU 72 68 +11.00 -7.00
HOME # 19 Texas 70 63 +6.74 +0.26
NEUT # 60 West Virginia 87 63 +9.72 +14.28
NEUT # 46 TCU 75 62 +8.59 +4.41
NEUT # 14 Texas Tech 74 65 +1.89 +7.11
NEUT #210 Texas Southern +21.95 0.982 0.982
NEUT # 34 San Diego State +7.29 0.758 0.744
NEUT # 36 Providence +7.64 0.768 0.572
NEUT # 13 Auburn +1.77 0.567 0.324
NEUT # 2 Arizona -1.09 0.458 0.148
NEUT # 1 Gonzaga -4.36 0.338 0.050
Here is Texas Southern's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
AWAY # 41 Oregon 66 83 -16.15 -0.85
AWAY # 23 Saint Mary's-Cal. 58 67 -18.22 +9.22
AWAY #108 Washington 65 72 -9.83 +2.83
AWAY #265 Air Force 57 61 +1.21 -5.21
AWAY #116 NC State 57 65 -8.74 +0.74
AWAY # 48 BYU 64 81 -15.44 -1.56
AWAY # 98 Louisiana Tech 60 87 -10.68 -16.32
AWAY # 40 Florida 69 54 -16.40 +31.40
AWAY #296 UTRGV 70 60 +3.70 +6.30
AWAY #244 Southern U. 50 63 -0.12 -12.88
AWAY #319 Grambling State 67 51 +5.36 +10.64
HOME #354 Ark.-Pine Bluff 90 71 +16.36 +2.64
HOME #358 MVSU(Miss. Valley St.) 95 58 +20.22 +16.78
AWAY #285 Alcorn State 72 73 +2.89 -3.89
AWAY #294 Jackson State 58 61 +3.31 -6.31
HOME #338 Alabama A&M 78 44 +12.25 +21.75
HOME #325 Alabama State 73 66 +10.71 -3.71
AWAY #292 Prairie View A&M 75 74 +3.26 -2.26
AWAY #315 Florida A&M 67 55 +5.17 +6.83
AWAY #342 Bethune-Cookman 66 63 +8.08 -5.08
HOME #319 Grambling State 68 65 +10.18 -7.18
HOME #244 Southern U. 58 70 +4.70 -16.70
AWAY #358 MVSU(Miss. Valley St.) 79 59 +15.40 +4.60
AWAY #354 Ark.-Pine Bluff 70 68 +11.54 -9.54
HOME #294 Jackson State 81 66 +8.13 +6.87
HOME #285 Alcorn State 72 75 +7.71 -10.71
HOME #292 Prairie View A&M 78 77 +8.08 -7.08
NEUT #294 Jackson State 54 50 +5.72 -1.72
NEUT #319 Grambling State 73 54 +7.77 +11.23
NEUT #285 Alcorn State 87 62 +5.30 +19.70
NEUT #268 Texas A&M-CorpusChristi 76 67 +3.74 +5.26
NEUT # 5 Kansas -21.95 0.018
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