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2 years 8 months ago #28623
by asteroid
Only RealTime hasn't put up any predictions for the post-season games. The rest
favor Kansas, by anywhere from 1.5 points (Dunkel) to 15.3 points (ESPN's BPI).
The average is 10.0 points, with a scatter of 3.1 points.
Kansas has played three games below expectation by more than 10 points (Iowa
State, Kentucky, TCU) out of 31 games, for a 9.7 percent chance of losing.
West Virginia is the most consistent team in the conference and has played
above expectation by more than 10 points only twice (Youngstown State and Iowa
State) out of 32 games, for a 6.25 percent chance of winning. Those average to
an 8.0 percent change of Kansas losing, somewhat more favorable than the
Sagarin Predictor ratings would suggest.
Both teams have negative trends and mental toughness ratings, but of only
marginal statistical significance. Taken at face value, the margin for Kansas
shrinks to 8.8 points.
All this assumes a true neutral court, but one would think that Kansas would
have a partial home court advantage.
Dunkel is expecting 152 total points, while Vegas has it at 148. Interesting,
given that the average of the two teams' total point averages is just 142.
Sagarin has it as 141.52 points, so he seems to be driven more by actual
performance, whereas the others might be making an adjustment based on the
#7 offense going up against the #58 defense, according to Pomeroy. The flip
side of that is the #83 offense going up against the #32 defense.
Note that West Virginia is on a two-game winning streak, winning both by
6 points. Then again, they're playing on consecutive days, while Kansas
is coming in much fresher, though last week was a bit of a grind.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats WVU KU Defensive Stats WVU KU
Points/Game 68.5 78.6 Opp Points/Game 68.5 68.6
Avg Score Margin 0.0 +10.0 Opp Effective FG % 50.3 47.0
Assists/Game 10.5 15.4 Off Rebounds/Gm 9.5 10.2
Total Rebounds/Gm 32.4 37.5 Def Rebounds/Gm 20.4 24.9
Effective FG % 46.8 54.1 Blocks/Game 4.5 4.1
Off Rebound % 28.8 32.6 Steals/Game 7.7 6.4
FTA/FGA 0.361 0.326 Personal Fouls/Gm 17.6 15.7
Turnover % 15.7 15.3
My Stats Comparison KU WVU
=================== ============= ============
performance +0.30 -1.04
inconsistency 9.81 7.97
trend -0.23 ± 0.20 -0.05 ± 0.15
mental toughness -0.25 ± 0.26 -0.17 ± 0.16
average total pts 147.19 137.03
Common Opponents
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There are eight common opponents, all in conference, all of which both teams have
played twice, for which I'll only use the home-home and road-road permutations, and
one of which West Virginia has played a third time, plus the two head-to-head
contests, giving us twenty scores to compare:
KU -3 UT on road ( +1 neutral court) KU +7 UT at home ( +3 neutral court)
WVU -15 UT on road (-11 neutral court) WVU -1 UT at home ( -5 neutral court)
KU +12 WVU neutral (+12 neutral court) KU +8 WVU neutral ( +8 neutral court)
KU +19 KSU at home (+15 neutral court) KU +3 KSU on road ( +7 neutral court)
WVU +3 KSU at home ( -1 neutral court) WVU -5 KSU on road ( -1 neutral court)
KU +16 WVU neutral (+16 neutral court) KU +8 WVU neutral ( +8 neutral court)
KU +14 OSU at home (+10 neutral court) KU +11 OSU on road (+15 neutral court)
WVU +10 OSU at home ( +6 neutral court) WVU -13 OSU on road ( -9 neutral court)
KU +4 WVU neutral ( +4 neutral court) KU +24 WVU neutral (+24 neutral court)
KU +24 BU at home (+20 neutral court) KU -10 BU on road ( -6 neutral court)
WVY -9 BU at home (-13 neutral court) WVU -4 BU on road ( 0 neutral court)
KU +33 WVU neutral (+33 neutral court) KU -6 WVU neutral ( -6 neutral court)
KU -8 TTU on road ( -4 neutral court) KU +3 TTU at home ( -1 neutral court)
WVU -13 TTU on road ( -9 neutral court) WVU -7 TTU at home (-11 neutral court)
KU +5 WVU neutral ( +5 neutral court) KU +10 WVU neutral (+10 neutral court)
KU +2 OU at home ( -2 neutral court) KU +3 OU on road ( +7 neutral court)
WVU -10 OU at home (-14 neutral court) WVU -13 OU on road ( -9 neutral court)
KU +12 WVU neutral (+12 neutral court) KU +16 WVU neutral (+16 neutral court)
KU +1 ISU at home ( -3 neutral court) KU +9 ISU on road (+13 neutral court)
WVU +16 ISU at home (+12 neutral court) WVU -3 ISU on road ( +1 neutral court)
KU -15 WVU neutral (-15 neutral court) KU +12 WVU neutral (+12 neutral court)
KU -10 TCU on road ( -6 neutral court) KU +4 TCU at home ( 0 neutral court)
WVU -10 TCU on road ( -6 neutral court) WVU +6 TCU at home ( +2 neutral court)
KU 0 WVU neutral ( 0 neutral court) KU -2 WVU neutral ( -2 neutral court)
KU +19 KSU at home (+15 neutral court) KU +3 KSU on road ( +7 neutral court)
WVU +6 KSU neutral ( +6 neutral court) WVU +6 KSU neutral ( +6 neutral court)
KU +9 WVU neutral ( +9 neutral court) KU +1 WVU neutral ( +1 neutral court)
KU +26 WVU at home (+22 neutral court) KU +13 WVU on road (+17 neutral court)
KU +22 WVU neutral (+22 neutral court) KU +17 WVU neutral (+17 neutral court)
Sixteen of the comparisons favor Kansas, three favor West Virginia, and one is a wash.
The average is 9.3 points in favor of Kansas, but with a scatter of 10.9 points.
Players to Watch
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most minutes Taz Sherman (guard)
most points Taz Sherman (guard)
most rebounds Gabe Osabuohien (forward)
most assists Taz Sherman (guard)
most steals Kedrian Johnson (guard)
most blocks Dimon Carrigan (forward)
most turnovers Taz Sherman (guard)
most fouls Gabe Osabuohien (forward)
25-6 16-16
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas West Virginia
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall +9.07 75 66 79 # 5 # 6 # 58 # 13
Sagarin Predictor +9.01 75 66 84.3 # 6 # 6 # 56 # 13
Sagarin Golden Mean +9.54 76 66 # 4 # 6 # 58 # 13
Sagarin Recent Games +8.46 75 67 # 14 # 6 # 82 # 13
Sagarin Eigenvector +13.72 78 64 87
Massey +10.00 78 68 82 # 7 # 3 # 59 # 9
Pomeroy +9.04 77 68 # 9 # 2 # 68 # 4
Greenfield +9.00 78 69 # 10 # 5 # 55 # 23
Dunkel +1.50 77 75 # 9 # 85
Vegas (via Dunkel) +9.00 78.5 69.5
Dolphin Predictive +8.71 78 70 77.5 # 9 # 3 # 62 # 14
Real Time # 5 # 3 #112 # 4
Seven Overtimes +14.00 78 64 86 # 3 # 1 # 86 # 3
DPPI +9.20 76 66.5 78.7 # 8 # 2 # 86 # 5
ESPN BPI +15.30 91.1 # 12 # 7 # 66 # 6
Whitlock +10.80 # 6 # 2 # 72 # 5
Colley Matrix +13.97 # 3 # 3 # 84 # 5
NCAA NET # 7 # 76
LRMC # 10 # 2 # 66 # 4
common opponents +9.30
Massey composite # 6 # 74
Pomeroy offense # 7 # 83
Pomeroy defense # 32 # 58
Pomeroy tempo # 70 #118
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +9.98 77.0 67.7 83.2
scatter 3.13 1.4 3.0 4.7
Here is Kansas' season, including the higher rated of potential future opponents:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 27 Michigan State 87 74 +5.99 +7.01
HOME #224 Tarleton State 88 62 +24.54 +1.46
HOME #234 Stony Brook-NY 88 59 +25.35 +3.65
NEUT # 82 North Texas 71 59 +11.33 +0.67
NEUT # 53 Dayton 73 74 +8.75 -9.75
NEUT #107 Iona College 96 83 +13.83 -0.83
AWAY # 47 St. John's 95 75 +5.86 +14.14
HOME #160 UTEP 78 52 +20.95 +5.05
HOME #115 Missouri 102 65 +17.27 +19.73
HOME #119 Stephen F. Austin 80 72 +17.75 -9.75
HOME #114 Nevada 88 61 +17.22 +9.78
HOME #113 George Mason 76 67 +16.67 -7.67
AWAY # 43 Oklahoma State 74 63 +5.40 +5.60
AWAY # 13 Texas Tech 67 75 -0.69 -7.31
HOME # 55 Iowa State 62 61 +11.26 -10.26
HOME # 56 West Virginia 85 59 +11.42 +14.58
AWAY # 38 Oklahoma 67 64 +4.82 -1.82
AWAY # 72 Kansas State 78 75 +7.87 -4.87
HOME # 13 Texas Tech 94 91 +4.13 -1.13
HOME # 5 Kentucky 62 80 +2.20 -20.20
AWAY # 55 Iowa State 70 61 +6.44 +2.56
HOME # 3 Baylor 83 59 +1.61 +22.39
AWAY # 17 Texas 76 79 +1.11 -4.11
HOME # 38 Oklahoma 71 69 +9.64 -7.64
HOME # 43 Oklahoma State 76 62 +10.22 +3.78
AWAY # 56 West Virginia 71 58 +6.60 +6.40
HOME # 72 Kansas State 102 83 +12.69 +6.31
AWAY # 3 Baylor 70 80 -3.21 -6.79
AWAY # 49 TCU 64 74 +5.96 -15.96
HOME # 49 TCU 72 68 +10.78 -6.78
HOME # 17 Texas 70 63 +5.93 +1.07
NEUT # 56 West Virginia +9.01 0.843
NEUT # 17 Texas +3.52 0.694
NEUT # 3 Baylor -0.80 0.467
Here is West Virginia's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #184 Oakland-Mich. 60 53 +13.28 -6.28
HOME #153 Pittsburgh 74 59 +11.78 +3.22
NEUT #255 Elon 87 68 +15.59 +3.41
NEUT # 45 Marquette 71 82 -0.86 -10.14
NEUT # 74 Clemson 66 59 +1.48 +5.52
HOME #239 Eastern Kentucky 80 77 +16.76 -13.76
HOME #197 Bellarmine 74 55 +14.00 +5.00
HOME #282 Radford 67 51 +19.65 -3.65
HOME # 19 Connecticut 56 53 -2.81 +5.81
HOME #141 Kent State 63 50 +10.58 +2.42
AWAY # 54 UAB 65 59 -2.60 +8.60
HOME #262 Youngstown State 82 52 +18.37 +11.63
AWAY # 17 Texas 59 74 -7.90 -7.10
HOME # 72 Kansas State 71 68 +3.68 -0.68
HOME # 43 Oklahoma State 70 60 +1.21 +8.79
AWAY # 6 Kansas 59 85 -11.42 -14.58
HOME # 3 Baylor 68 77 -7.40 -1.60
AWAY # 13 Texas Tech 65 78 -9.70 -3.30
HOME # 38 Oklahoma 62 72 +0.63 -10.63
AWAY # 18 Arkansas 68 77 -7.84 -1.16
AWAY # 3 Baylor 77 81 -12.22 +8.22
HOME # 13 Texas Tech 53 60 -4.88 -2.12
HOME # 55 Iowa State 79 63 +2.25 +13.75
AWAY # 43 Oklahoma State 58 81 -3.61 -19.39
AWAY # 72 Kansas State 73 78 -1.14 -3.86
HOME # 6 Kansas 58 71 -6.60 -6.40
AWAY # 49 TCU 67 77 -3.05 -6.95
AWAY # 55 Iowa State 81 84 -2.57 -0.43
HOME # 17 Texas 81 82 -3.08 +2.08
AWAY # 38 Oklahoma 59 72 -4.19 -8.81
HOME # 49 TCU 70 64 +1.77 +4.23
NEUT # 72 Kansas State 73 67 +1.27 +4.73
NEUT # 6 Kansas -9.01 0.157
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