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2 years 9 months ago #28289
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Four consecutive below-expectation performances by the Jayhawks, and six out of the
last seven. They are due for an above-expectation performance. Will it happen
today despite Hilton Magic?
Iowa State has the conference's best mental toughness rating, and it is statistically
significant. Meanwhile, Kansas has the conference's worst trend rating, and it is
also statistically significant. Still, they are not enough to overcome the 5.7 point
margin that Sagarin Predictor expects, though they do reduce it to just 1.3 points,
so it could be yet another one of those nail-biters we've come to expect.
If you're familiar with the phrase "The Ramans do things in threes", then you can
appreciate that a week ago, we had three remarkable games, one in Manhattan, one
in Arrowhead, and one in Lawrence, that worked in Kansas fans' favor. Are we going
to see the flip side of that? It was a rotten Saturday in Lawrence, a rotten Sunday
in Arrowhead, and now a Tuesday trip to Ames that the Ramans would expect to also be
rotten.
Indeed, RealTime is picking the Cyclones by 9, Seven Overtimes is picking the
Cyclones by 4, and Dunkel is picking the Cyclones by a half point. The rest,
however, are picking Kansas, with Sagarin Predictor the most optimistic of the
bunch as a bit under 6 points. The average is just 2.2 points, making it a
one-possession game. Play too many of those, and you're bound to get burned,
just like the Chiefs on Sunday. Live by the sudden death, die by the sudden
death.
Against Kentucky, it was clearly a rebounding issue. The shots from beyond the
arc were a wash. Kansas made a higher percentage of charities, though attempted
far fewer, but that was only a four-point differential. Two-point shot attempts
were nearly equal, but Kentucky made a higher number, partially fueled by
offensive rebounds. Self said it earlier: how the season goes for Kansas largely
depends on how DMac plays. He's been Jekyll and Hyde so far this season, and we
just don't know who is going to show up in Ames today. Fortunately, Iowa State's
offense runs through a smaller guard, so the match-up is more favorable for Kansas.
Not sure why Sagarin is predicting total points of just under 136, given that both
teams are averaging over 146 total points. I'll take the over. We'll see how the
Jayhawks react to Saturday's wake-up call.
Still waiting on the DPPI prediction.
Rock Chalk!
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats ISU KU Defensive Stats ISU KU
Points/Game 69.6 80.6 Opp Points/Game 60.5 68.6
Avg Score Margin +9.1 +12.0 Opp Effective FG % 46.2 48.3
Assists/Game 14.6 16.2 Off Rebounds/Gm 8.4 10.7
Total Rebounds/Gm 33.5 36.9 Def Rebounds/Gm 21.7 24.1
Effective FG % 51.1 55.1 Blocks/Game 3.1 4.2
Off Rebound % 28.4 34.4 Steals/Game 8.9 6.6
FTA/FGA 0.299 0.307 Personal Fouls/Gm 18.5 15.7
Turnover % 17.8 15.1
My Stats Comparison KU ISU
=================== ============= ============
performance +0.12 +1.94
inconsistency 9.87 11.23
trend -0.61 ± 0.37 -0.01 ± 0.42
mental toughness -0.37 ± 0.30 +0.35 ± 0.17
average total pts 149.10 146.45
Common Opponents
================
There are four common opponents, three in conference, one of which both Kansas
and Iowa State have played twice (for which I'll use only the home-home and
road-road permutations), plus Misery, and the head-to-read in Lawrence, giving
us six scores to compare:
KU +37 Mizz at home (+33 neutral court)
ISU +17 Mizz at home (+13 neutral court)
KU +16 ISU at home (+20 neutral court)
KU +3 TTU at home ( -1 neutral court) KU -8 TTU on road ( -4 neutral court)
ISU +4 TTU at home ( 0 neutral court) ISU -12 TTU on road ( -8 neutral court)
KU -5 ISU on road ( -1 neutral court) KU 0 ISU on road ( +4 neutral court)
KU +3 OU on road ( +7 neutral court)
ISU -13 OU on road ( -9 neutral court)
KU +12 ISU on road (+16 neutral court)
KU +11 OSU on road (+15 neutral court)
ISU +3 OSU on road ( +7 neutral court)
KU +4 ISU on road ( +8 neutral court)
KU +1 ISU at home ( -3 neutral court)
KU -7 ISU on road ( -3 neutral court)
The average is 3.33 points in favor Kansas, with a scatter of 9.2 points.
Remove the non-conference game, and the average drops to just two-thirds
of a point in favor of Kansas.
Players to Watch
================
most minutes Izaiah Brockington (guard)
most points Izaiah Brockington (guard)
most rebounds Izaiah Brockington (guard)
most assists Tyrese Hunter (guard)
most steals Tyrese Hunter (guard)
most blocks George Conditt IV (forward)
most turnovers Tyrese Hunter (guard)
most fouls George Conditt IV (forward)
17-3 16-5
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Iowa State
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall + 5.30 71 65 69 # 6 # 14 # 42 # 48
Sagarin Predictor + 5.65 71 65 70.3 # 6 # 14 # 44 # 48
Sagarin Golden Mean + 5.29 71 65 # 4 # 14 # 37 # 48
Sagarin Recent Games + 0.68 68 68 # 16 # 14 # 32 # 48
Sagarin Eigenvector + 4.12 70 66 65
Massey + 3.00 72 69 61 # 10 # 12 # 27 # 63
Pomeroy + 1.70 68 67 # 11 # 11 # 24 # 50
Greenfield + 4.50 71 67 # 10 # 9 # 49 # 35
Dunkel - 0.50 65 65 # 11 # 30
Vegas (via Dunkel) + 4.50 71 67
Dolphin Predictive + 2.92 71 68 60.2 # 13 # 8 # 25 # 23
Real Time - 9.00 71 80 30.1 # 3 # 3 # 13 #102
Seven Overtimes - 4.00 68 72 36 # 4 # 1 # 37 # 78
DPPI # 6 # 7 # #
ESPN BPI + 1.50 56.0 # 13 # 17 # 38 # 30
Whitlock + 3.53 # 6 # 4 # 25 # 45
Colley Matrix + 5.16 # 2 # 2 # 34 # 73
NCAA NET # 9 # 25
LRMC # 15* # #148* #
common opponents + 3.33
Massey composite # 9 # 26
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average + 2.22 69.9 68.0 56.0
scatter 3.81 2.0 4.1 15.0
Here is Kansas' season, for which the current season projection is back down to
25-6:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 19 Michigan State 87 74 +3.81 +9.19
HOME #202 Tarleton State 88 62 +23.37 +2.63
HOME #210 Stony Brook-NY 88 59 +23.78 +5.22
NEUT # 91 North Texas 71 59 +12.12 -0.12
NEUT # 65 Dayton 73 74 +10.28 -11.28
NEUT # 98 Iona College 96 83 +12.55 +0.45
AWAY # 66 St. John's 95 75 +7.83 +12.17
HOME #175 UTEP 78 52 +22.08 +3.92
HOME #140 Missouri 102 65 +19.84 +17.16
HOME #143 Stephen F. Austin 80 72 +20.15 -12.15
HOME #115 Nevada 88 61 +17.83 +9.17
HOME #101 George Mason 76 67 +15.98 -6.98
AWAY # 52 Oklahoma State 74 63 +6.33 +4.67
AWAY # 13 Texas Tech 67 75 -0.75 -7.25
HOME # 44 Iowa State 62 61 +11.03 -10.03
HOME # 45 West Virginia 85 59 +11.22 +14.78
AWAY # 35 Oklahoma 67 64 +4.40 -1.40
AWAY # 73 Kansas State 78 75 +8.17 -5.17
HOME # 13 Texas Tech 94 91 +4.63 -1.63
HOME # 8 Kentucky 62 80 +3.05 -21.05
AWAY # 44 Iowa State +5.65 0.703
HOME # 2 Baylor +1.70 0.569
AWAY # 16 Texas +0.40 0.517
HOME # 35 Oklahoma +9.78 0.826
HOME # 52 Oklahoma State +11.71 0.864
AWAY # 45 West Virginia +5.84 0.748
HOME # 73 Kansas State +13.55 0.926
AWAY # 2 Baylor -3.68 0.354
AWAY # 48 TCU +6.10 0.726
HOME # 48 TCU +11.48 0.871
HOME # 16 Texas +5.78 0.730
Here is Iowa State's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #267 Kennesaw State 84 73 +19.45 -8.45
HOME #134 Oregon State 60 50 +11.00 -1.00
HOME #326 Alabama State 68 60 +23.85 -15.85
HOME #317 Grambling State 82 47 +23.12 +11.88
NEUT # 22 Xavier-Ohio 82 70 -3.53 +15.53
NEUT # 54 Memphis 78 59 +0.68 +18.32
HOME #355 Ark.-Pine Bluff 83 64 +30.46 -11.46
AWAY # 64 Creighton 64 58 -0.90 +6.90
HOME # 20 Iowa 73 53 -1.66 +21.66
HOME #298 Jackson State 47 37 +21.59 -11.59
HOME #299 SE Louisiana 77 54 +21.83 +1.17
HOME #353 Chicago State 79 48 +28.74 +2.26
HOME # 2 Baylor 72 77 -6.64 +1.64
HOME # 13 Texas Tech 51 47 -3.71 +7.71
AWAY # 35 Oklahoma 66 79 -3.94 -9.06
AWAY # 6 Kansas 61 62 -11.03 +10.03
HOME # 16 Texas 79 70 -2.56 +11.56
AWAY # 13 Texas Tech 60 72 -9.09 -2.91
HOME # 48 TCU 44 59 +3.14 -18.14
AWAY # 52 Oklahoma State 84 81 -2.01 +5.01
HOME #140 Missouri 67 50 +11.50 +5.50
HOME # 6 Kansas -5.65 0.297
AWAY # 16 Texas -7.94 0.217
AWAY # 45 West Virginia -2.50 0.396
HOME # 73 Kansas State +5.21 0.697
AWAY # 48 TCU -2.24 0.418
HOME # 35 Oklahoma +1.44 0.552
HOME # 45 West Virginia +2.88 0.619
AWAY # 73 Kansas State -0.17 0.493
HOME # 52 Oklahoma State +3.37 0.617
AWAY # 2 Baylor -12.02 0.127
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2 years 9 months ago #28291
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Ochai is out due to Covid protocol.
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2 years 9 months ago #28296
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2 years 9 months ago #28299
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DPPI now included. As the DPPI predicted margin matched the average, the average
did not change. However, since the earlier posting, we've learned that Ochai is out
because of COVID protocol. How many points is he worth over the next man up?
17-3 16-5
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Iowa State
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall + 5.30 71 65 69 # 6 # 14 # 42 # 48
Sagarin Predictor + 5.65 71 65 70.3 # 6 # 14 # 44 # 48
Sagarin Golden Mean + 5.29 71 65 # 4 # 14 # 37 # 48
Sagarin Recent Games + 0.68 68 68 # 16 # 14 # 32 # 48
Sagarin Eigenvector + 4.12 70 66 65
Massey + 3.00 72 69 61 # 10 # 12 # 27 # 63
Pomeroy + 1.70 68 67 # 11 # 11 # 24 # 50
Greenfield + 4.50 71 67 # 10 # 9 # 49 # 35
Dunkel - 0.50 65 65 # 11 # 30
Vegas (via Dunkel) + 4.50 71 67
Dolphin Predictive + 2.92 71 68 60.2 # 13 # 8 # 25 # 23
Real Time - 9.00 71 80 30.1 # 3 # 3 # 13 #102
Seven Overtimes - 4.00 68 72 36 # 4 # 1 # 37 # 78
DPPI + 2.20 73 70.5 54.4 # 8 # 3 # 29 # 51
ESPN BPI + 1.50 56.0 # 13 # 17 # 38 # 30
Whitlock + 3.53 # 6 # 4 # 25 # 45
Colley Matrix + 5.16 # 2 # 2 # 34 # 73
NCAA NET # 9 # 25
LRMC # 15* # #148* #
common opponents + 3.33
Massey composite # 9 # 26
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average + 2.22 70.1 68.2 55.8
scatter 3.70 2.1 4.0 14.0
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2 years 9 months ago #28302
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