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8 years 10 months ago #1968
by Bayhawk
The end is nothing; the road is all.
-- Jules Michelet
No "killer instinct," no sense of TCB (taking care of business).
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Let's go 'Hawks!!!
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Let's go 'Hawks!!!
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8 years 10 months ago #1976
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Yea,yea,yea, keepin' the faith
...I'm worried
Yea,yea,yea, keepin' the faith
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8 years 10 months ago #1977
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Mongo just pawn in game of life.
Each and every Jayhawk looks lost on both offense and defense. They have suddenly gone backwards, looking like they jumped into a tmie machine and went back to October. On D, they are not staying in front of their men and on O they've totally forgotten about ball movement and running plays.
And the guy who is most lost is Self. When he goes to Stillwater, is his mind reverting to his 18 year old mind? I've never been more disgusted with Self as right now.
And the guy who is most lost is Self. When he goes to Stillwater, is his mind reverting to his 18 year old mind? I've never been more disgusted with Self as right now.
Mongo just pawn in game of life.
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8 years 10 months ago #1981
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
It's like a twilight zone for him.
And I really have come to believe that the team becomes collateral damage as a result. Self is insecure and the vibes feed into the players' psyches.
Unfreakin'believable.
And I really have come to believe that the team becomes collateral damage as a result. Self is insecure and the vibes feed into the players' psyches.
Unfreakin'believable.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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8 years 10 months ago #1985
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"When you have a ruling class that doesn’t believe in — or even much like — the fundamental values of the nations it rules, things tend to work out poorly.”
Glenn Reynolds
The word for today is 'lost.' We are lost. The team has no intensity, no real sense of commitment, no energy, and are totally removed from their basketball 'reality.' This is as close as I can recall to Bill Self having lost the team. I am very disappointed, and if the last 3 games turn out to be meaningful, it bodes ill for a good season.
"When you have a ruling class that doesn’t believe in — or even much like — the fundamental values of the nations it rules, things tend to work out poorly.”
Glenn Reynolds
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8 years 10 months ago #1987
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Yea,yea,yea, keepin' the faith
We loose at WVU and OSU yet keep winning the b12.
Better to brain fart now, and rock chalk in March and April
Better to brain fart now, and rock chalk in March and April
Yea,yea,yea, keepin' the faith
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8 years 10 months ago #1988
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If I had to trade another B12 championship for a deep run in the Dance, I would (of course, I'd prefer both).
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8 years 10 months ago #1989
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It'll feel better when it stops hurting
It almost seems as if Coach Self decided to use this game and get Carlton and Chieck some minutes.
I want to know, Where the hell was Hunter?
Perry is not the answer and I have watched this for the last three years. For whatever reason Coach wants to give him and Landon every opportunity yet we have had others that could have made a difference . Something is terribly terribly off in Jayhawkland
I want to know, Where the hell was Hunter?
Perry is not the answer and I have watched this for the last three years. For whatever reason Coach wants to give him and Landon every opportunity yet we have had others that could have made a difference . Something is terribly terribly off in Jayhawkland
It'll feel better when it stops hurting
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8 years 10 months ago #1990
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8 years 10 months ago #1994
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Unfreakin'believable, indeed, HE.
I sat down tonight thinking "Okay, here's one we definitely will get." I mean, we were the seasoned squad facing a totally inexperienced OSU team, which was playing without its best shooter (Forte).
And yet we totally ****** the bed. Wow. Just wow.
I sat down tonight thinking "Okay, here's one we definitely will get." I mean, we were the seasoned squad facing a totally inexperienced OSU team, which was playing without its best shooter (Forte).
And yet we totally ****** the bed. Wow. Just wow.
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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8 years 10 months ago #1995
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
This is as close as I can recall to Bill Self having lost the team.
It certainly seems that way, Peter. I'm left just shaking my head. I mean, we were very much in that game heading into the half. Was it disappointing that we were down? Sure, but we were within two possessions of it having gone our way. But that second half... What in the WORLD happened inside the locker room?
More broadly, where are the collective heads of this team right now? And what is going on inside of them? Going back to Frank's lackluster showing in West Virginia, in front of a massive family entourage that drove hours through bad weather to see him play, it makes you wonder if something isn't going on behind the scenes among the guys.
Truly bizarre. And I'll confess that, when I saw the tide turn in a big way in the second half, I just fast-forwarded through, stopping on occasion at certain frames to see if we'd made a run. Instead, I just kept seeing the spread increase in OSU's favor. I couldn't bear to watch it. I saw a micro-frame of the court-stomping, turned off the tube, tossed the remote on the couch in disgust, and walked away.
What a cratering. I sure wish we knew what was going on...
It certainly seems that way, Peter. I'm left just shaking my head. I mean, we were very much in that game heading into the half. Was it disappointing that we were down? Sure, but we were within two possessions of it having gone our way. But that second half... What in the WORLD happened inside the locker room?
More broadly, where are the collective heads of this team right now? And what is going on inside of them? Going back to Frank's lackluster showing in West Virginia, in front of a massive family entourage that drove hours through bad weather to see him play, it makes you wonder if something isn't going on behind the scenes among the guys.
Truly bizarre. And I'll confess that, when I saw the tide turn in a big way in the second half, I just fast-forwarded through, stopping on occasion at certain frames to see if we'd made a run. Instead, I just kept seeing the spread increase in OSU's favor. I couldn't bear to watch it. I saw a micro-frame of the court-stomping, turned off the tube, tossed the remote on the couch in disgust, and walked away.
What a cratering. I sure wish we knew what was going on...
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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8 years 10 months ago #1996
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It'll feel better when it stops hurting
I actually turned it off with 6+ minutes to go because I knew where it was going. I agree something isn't right with Frank and Wayne and Devonte seem off too
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8 years 10 months ago #1997
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This team just looks spent and like they don't care. Words only mean so much, words need to translate into play on the court. At this rate, maybe HCBS should play 5 players that care and care to play with passion. No freaking effort, to get smoked by a bad team disrespects Kansas and Kansas Basketball and its tradition of competing. HCBS has done a poor job the last three years imho, and maybe it is unfortunate timing re injuries or NCAA sanctions, or maybe KU does not have the thoroughbreds we thought they had. The trend of getting smoked on the road continues from the last two years....
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8 years 10 months ago #1998
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
At the 11-minute mark of the first half, we had literally gotten nothing out of our three starting guards (Mason, Graham, and Selden). The only one doing anything was Ellis, followed by good effort by Diallo (who proceeded to devolve in the 2nd half).
This team, in particular, HAS to have good guard play. If that continues to crater, we are truly screwed, and any talk (myself included) about the 5 spot and our bigs being a concern will become an afterthought.
This team, in particular, HAS to have good guard play. If that continues to crater, we are truly screwed, and any talk (myself included) about the 5 spot and our bigs being a concern will become an afterthought.
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8 years 10 months ago #2001
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Then pray tell what is wrong with the guards??? I can understand 1 guy being off, even 2, but all 3
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8 years 10 months ago #2014
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RKCKJHK!!!
Have not seen the game yet but I have looked at the box score. Pretty scary.
I know HCBS wants to "run the O through Perry", but IMHO its not working. He is not, has not been, and never will be Embiid, Withey or Aldrich. He is barely 6'8" and has small hands. He is not a 5. HCBS keeps asking him to be that and its just not happening especially against "real" 5s. 3 for 10 isn't what I would call doing something. Maybe instead of trying to divide up the minutes between 5 guys for one spot we could eat into Perry's minutes a bit and see how a tandem of Mickelson/Bragg or Traylor/Diallo do. I like Perry as a 3/4 not as the guy in the middle.
Have to agree with everyone....something is up with Frank. 0 assists? 2 T/Os and 4 for 12 from the field? I smell something and its not a Flannagan from the Wheel. Better get this fixed or the fellas might have to get used to the court storming.
OK what is up with HCBS and Stillwater? 5 of the last 7? Really? Marcus Smart was a very good college player I will give you, but this team? You can't convince me there is not something mental going on with HCBS and playing down there.
In 11 minutes Bragg was 4/4 from the field and 4 boards. Perry played 33 minutes and had 3. Yeah sure he had 4 fouls. Big deal. In the words of Oliver Twist....MORE PLEASE!!!
It appears to me that Graham was the only player who was 1. Given minutes and 2. Actually showed up in Stillwater. Now I will agree that 1 has to happen in order for 2 to follow....also read why is Mickelson even on the team if he gets the same amount of PT as Tyler and Evan?....but it looks like Graham played pretty well. 5 AST only 1 TO and 10 points. Not bad.
Not a big confidence booster for the guys with a possibly tricky game on Saturday. Hopefully the home cooking continues.
RKCKJHK!!!
I know HCBS wants to "run the O through Perry", but IMHO its not working. He is not, has not been, and never will be Embiid, Withey or Aldrich. He is barely 6'8" and has small hands. He is not a 5. HCBS keeps asking him to be that and its just not happening especially against "real" 5s. 3 for 10 isn't what I would call doing something. Maybe instead of trying to divide up the minutes between 5 guys for one spot we could eat into Perry's minutes a bit and see how a tandem of Mickelson/Bragg or Traylor/Diallo do. I like Perry as a 3/4 not as the guy in the middle.
Have to agree with everyone....something is up with Frank. 0 assists? 2 T/Os and 4 for 12 from the field? I smell something and its not a Flannagan from the Wheel. Better get this fixed or the fellas might have to get used to the court storming.
OK what is up with HCBS and Stillwater? 5 of the last 7? Really? Marcus Smart was a very good college player I will give you, but this team? You can't convince me there is not something mental going on with HCBS and playing down there.
In 11 minutes Bragg was 4/4 from the field and 4 boards. Perry played 33 minutes and had 3. Yeah sure he had 4 fouls. Big deal. In the words of Oliver Twist....MORE PLEASE!!!
It appears to me that Graham was the only player who was 1. Given minutes and 2. Actually showed up in Stillwater. Now I will agree that 1 has to happen in order for 2 to follow....also read why is Mickelson even on the team if he gets the same amount of PT as Tyler and Evan?....but it looks like Graham played pretty well. 5 AST only 1 TO and 10 points. Not bad.
Not a big confidence booster for the guys with a possibly tricky game on Saturday. Hopefully the home cooking continues.
RKCKJHK!!!
RKCKJHK!!!
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