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Every team that has beaten the Jayhawks this year has scored at least 75 points.
3 - the # of the Top 6 All Time Winningest Programs (Division 1) that Are Dancing
KANSAS, the tarred ones, and Syracuse are in the NCAAT.
After bad years -- historically bad in some cases -- the Lexington school, Duke and Temple are not in the NCAAT *or* the NIT.
5 and 6 - the number of wins that KANSAS needs to tie and then pass the Lexington school in All Time Wins.
Dare we dream?
49 - the number of NCAA Tournament appearances for KANSAS
KANSAS is 108-47 overall in the event, having made 31 Sweet 16s and 15 Final Fours, and earned three of its five national championships (1952, 1988, 2008) in NCAAT play.
TOP 10 PROGRAMS EARNING NCAA BIDS and SUCCESS MARKERS
. Bids..by Most recent Sweet 16 Elite 8 Final 4 Finals Champions
R # School Bid Win Last # Last # Last # Last # Last #
1. 58 tLs* 2019 2019 2019 44 2019 38 2015 17 2014 12 2012 8
2. 51 tarred ones 2021 2019 2019 34 2017 28 2017 20 2017 11 2017 6
3. 49 KANSAS 2021 2019 2018 31 2018 24 2018 15 2012 9 2008 3
4. 48 UCLA* 2021 2017 2017 33 2008 21 2008 17 2006 12 1995 11
5. 43 Duke 2019 2019 2019 31 2019 22 2015 16 2015 11 2015 5
6. 41 Syracuse* 2021 2018 2018 23 2016 10 2016 6 2003 3 2003 1
7. 39 Indiana 2016 2016 2016 22 2002 11 2002 8 2002 6 1987 5
8. 39 Louisville* 2019 2017 2009 24 2009 11 2005 8 1986 2 1986 2
9. 39 Villanova* 2021 2019 2018 17 2018 13 2018 5 2018 3 2018 3
10. 36 Notre Dame 2017 2017 2016 17 2016 7 1978 1
31 - consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances,
Beginning in 1990, it is both the longest active appearances streak and the longest such streak in NCAAT history.
20 - consecutive seasons KANSAS has earned a top-four seed in the NCAA Tournament.
Seeding the NCAAT teams began in 1979, and starting in 2001 -- and remembering that last year's NCAAT, where KANSAS was going to be the overall #1 seed, was cancelled due to COVID-19 -- KANSAS has earned
9 One seeds
4 Two seeds
3 Three seeds and
4 Four seeds
KANSAS SEEDS in its NCAAT HISTORY (seeding began in 1979)
Year '81 '84 '85 '86 '87 '88 '89 '90 '91 '92 '93 '94 '95
Seed 7 5 3 1 5 6 - 2 3 1 2 4 1
Year '96 '97 '98 '99 '00 '01 '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08
Seed 2 1 1 6 8 4 1 2 4 3 4 1 1
Year '09 '10 '11 '12 '13 '14 '15 '16 '17 '18 '19 '20 '21
Seed 3 1* 1 2 1 2 2 1* 1 1 4 NT 3
KANSAS failed to make the field in '79, '80, '82 and '83, so those
years are not listed.
The NCAA banned KANSAS for the '89 postseason.(1)
* indicates overall #1 Seed
NT - no tournament due to COVID-19. KU was #1 in the Final 2020 AP poll,
Coaches poll, KenPom, Sagarin, NET, BPI, RPI & DPPI, and would have
been the overall #1 Seed.
8 - the number of programs that have won at least three NCAA Tournaments.
The Jayhawks won the NCAA crown in 1952, 1988 and 2008.
The list of 8...
11 - UCLA
8 - the Lexington school (with 1 earned in 2012 holding off a late charging Jayhawks team )
6 - the tarred ones (including the classic 1957 Triple OT game against Wilt and KANSAS )
5 - Indiana (including two earned by defeating Phog teams in the 1940 & 1953 NC games )
5 - Duke (including 1991 over Adonis, Alonzo, Mark Randall and RICHARD SCOTT! )
4 - Connecticut
3 - Kansas (1952 d St. John's; 1988 d Oklahoma and 2008 d Memphis in OT)
3 - Villanova
The odds are against it this tournament, but wouldn't it be nice to put up another banner and pass the Lexington school in ATWs at the same time?
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5 and 6 - the number of wins that KANSAS needs to tie and then pass the Lexington school in All Time Wins.
Dare we dream?
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1. 6 wins to pass Kentucky for all-time wins, yes, but 6 wins will also tie Duke at 114 for tournament wins. Kentucky leads at 131 followed by UNC at 126. KU at 108 currently.
2. A final Four would also tie us with Duke at 16. KU currently in 5th behind UNC @ 20, UCLA @ 18, Kentucky at 17, Duke at 16 and Kansas at 15.
3. If KU goes to the NC game, Bill Self will tie Lute Olson with 74 total tournament games passing Izzo (maybe) at 73, Pitino at 73 (well he would probably tie Pitino), Jim Calhoun at 71 and Bob Knight at 70. 74 would tie him for 6th most all time games.
4. Self is currently 9th in total tourney wins with 48. He could potentially move to a tie for 6th with 6 wins. Again he would pass Jim Calhoun and Tom Izzo. (52 and 51 respectively).
5. With a win Saturday, Self will break a tie for most round of 64 wins with Calipari at 19.
6. Historical probabilities for a 3 seed is to win 1.83 games. If Self wins 2 games he will gain on the net probable wins for his career. And he needs to since he is one of the few elite coaches with a negative net probable wins in the NCAA. Self has won 48 games in the NCAA. But when you look at the seed matchups of the 68 games he has coached in, his teams should have won 49.6 games. So he is 1.6 games under his probabilistic projection. Of the 29 coaches who have coached in at least 40 games, only 6 have a negative net probability record. By far the best is John Wooden who won 10.5 more games than the probability projection or 129% of the projected wins. The worst is Rick Barnes at 80% of projected wins. Here is the compete list. The column farthest to the right is the net probability wins (losses). The column 2nd from the right is the % of projected probable wins. I love Self but there is no argument that he has underperformed in the NCAA. He has been amazing at getting into the NCAA with a great seed. Here is his net probable wins by round
Rd of 64: 0.4
Rd of 32: -0.7
Sweet 16: 1.3
Elite 8: -3.1
Final Four: 0.5
NC: 0.1
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CorpusJayhawk wrote: Great stuff HE. Here are a few more tidbits.
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Rd of 64: 0.4
Rd of 32: -0.7
Sweet 16: 1.3
Elite 8: -3.1
Final Four: 0.5
NC: 0.1
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Yeah, Corpus, as your data indicates his Bane is the E8.
If he can just get his teams past that 3rd game...
Still, I'll take him over anyone else until John Wooden's reincarnation arrives.
big g, to your question, I don't know, so I'll try passing the Hawk to Corpus!
Oh, BTW, please note that when you are always getting such high seeds, you basically have little upside and lots of downside when it comes to performance evaluation.
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KU > Duke: +14
KU > UNC: +36
KU > UK: +43
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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