Oklahoma State's Cade Cunningham (ankle) and Isaac Likekele (hand) are both OUT for today's game against West Virginia, per Mike Boynton.
×
Rock Chalk Talk: Basketball
Anything pertaining to basketball: college, pro, HS, recruiting, TV coverage
Anything pertaining to basketball: college, pro, HS, recruiting, TV coverage
Big 12 Seeding after games of Thursday, March 4, 2021 EDITED
3 years 8 months ago - 3 years 8 months ago #26515
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Mea Culpa -- somehow I overlooked that WVU could fall to as far as the 4 seed and tu become the 3 seed *if* WVU loses to OKSt (less likely if Cunningham hurt) and tu wins at TCU (very likely). Post edited to correct for this oversight.
REVISED BLUF: Given the very low odds that TCU beats tu on Sunday, we need WVU to win on Saturday to ensure tu is on the other side of the bracket from Kansas.
CORRECTED ASSESSMENT
FOUR REMAINING BIG 12 SEASON GAMES
Saturday, March 6, 2021
Oklahoma State @West Virginia 1:00 P.M. ESPN/2
Iowa State @Kansas State 4:00 P.M. ESPN+
Sunday, March 7, 2021
Texas Tech @Baylor TBA ESPN
Texas @TCU 6:00 P.M. ESPN+
Can OKSt give WVU the loss needed for KANSAS to finish in second place? Given our problems with tu this year and the odds of tu falling to TCU, I really really want WVU to win on Saturday to ensure tu is either the 4 or 5 seed on the other side of the bracket with Baylor.
While I would love for Drew to lose and Chris Beard to win in their final regular season conference game matchup, a Tech win combined with an OKSt win and a tu loss would drop the horns to the 6 seed playing KANSAS in KU's first game' side of the bracket. Again, the odds of tu losing to TCU, even in Fort Worth, are low, and I’d rather Chris Beard finished with the W. But since the Tech @Baylor game comes first, IF OKSt beats WVU Saturday, I'm going to have to want Baylor winning over Tech to avoid any possibility of the horns slipping on a banana peel at TCU. I'd rather have 6 seed Tech on our side of the bracket than have the 6 seed horns. Sorry, Coach Beard.
Big 12 Tournament bracket as of COB 2021-03-04
REVISED BLUF: Given the very low odds that TCU beats tu on Sunday, we need WVU to win on Saturday to ensure tu is on the other side of the bracket from Kansas.
CORRECTED ASSESSMENT
TEAM CONF OVR GL B12T SEED COMMENTs
Baylor 12-1 20-1 1 1 seed
WVU 11-5 18-7 1 W =2; L=3 seed if tu L, 4 if tu W (tu/WVU split, BU swept both, tu beat KU 2x)
Kansas 12-6 19-8 0 3 or 2 seed, depending on WVU
Texas 10-6 16-7 1 3 (W & WVU L); 4 (W & WVU W or L & OKSt & TT L);
5 (if L & 1 of OKSt/TT W) or 6 seed (L & OKST & TT W)
OKSta 10-7 17-7 1 4 (W & tu L); 5 (L, tu W & TT L) or 6 (L, tu & TT W)
T Tech 9-7 17-8 1 4 (W & tu & OKSt L; tt beat tu 2x), 5 (W & only
OKSt L) or 6 seed (L; beat OU 2x)
OU 9-8 14-9 0 7 seed
TCU 5-10 12-12 1 8 seed
KState 3-14 7-19 1 9 seed
IState 0-17 2-20 1 10 seed
OVR: Overall record
GL: Big 12 Games LeftFOUR REMAINING BIG 12 SEASON GAMES
Saturday, March 6, 2021
Oklahoma State @West Virginia 1:00 P.M. ESPN/2
Iowa State @Kansas State 4:00 P.M. ESPN+
Sunday, March 7, 2021
Texas Tech @Baylor TBA ESPN
Texas @TCU 6:00 P.M. ESPN+
Can OKSt give WVU the loss needed for KANSAS to finish in second place? Given our problems with tu this year and the odds of tu falling to TCU, I really really want WVU to win on Saturday to ensure tu is either the 4 or 5 seed on the other side of the bracket with Baylor.
While I would love for Drew to lose and Chris Beard to win in their final regular season conference game matchup, a Tech win combined with an OKSt win and a tu loss would drop the horns to the 6 seed playing KANSAS in KU's first game' side of the bracket. Again, the odds of tu losing to TCU, even in Fort Worth, are low, and I’d rather Chris Beard finished with the W. But since the Tech @Baylor game comes first, IF OKSt beats WVU Saturday, I'm going to have to want Baylor winning over Tech to avoid any possibility of the horns slipping on a banana peel at TCU. I'd rather have 6 seed Tech on our side of the bracket than have the 6 seed horns. Sorry, Coach Beard.
Big 12 Tournament bracket as of COB 2021-03-04
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Share this page:
3 years 8 months ago #26536
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
I have edited the OP to correct for my oversight on the possible seeding for Texas.
Bottom line: let Huggy have 2nd.
Sorry for the oversight, folks.
Bottom line: let Huggy have 2nd.
Sorry for the oversight, folks.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
3 years 8 months ago #26547
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
They still have to play the game, but it's in Morgantown so most likely a win for WVU.
Bottom line: WVU winning (99% IMO) earns 2 seed, tu can be 4 or 5 (on Baylor's side), OKSt can be 5 or 6 (play KU), Tech can be 4,5 or 6.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
3 years 8 months ago #26551
by Bayhawk
RC
WORD!!!!
The end is nothing; the road is all.
-- Jules Michelet
HawkErrant wrote: And OKSt beats WVU in Morgantown without Cade or Likekelu.
This is why I don’t bet on sports.
RC
WORD!!!!
The end is nothing; the road is all.
-- Jules Michelet
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.