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3 years 9 months ago #26431
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The low water mark for Baylor this season was 67 points in Fort Worth, followed
by 68 points in Lubbock. Good defense can hold the high-flying Bears down. It
being Marcus Garrett's senior night (he plans to give his speech, regardless of
the recently-added UTEP home game), one might expect him to deliver the defensive
performance of his career. I'd say it is possible for Kansas to hold Baylor to
under 70 points, so it's really just a matter of the Jayhawks being able to score
more than 70 points. If Ochai, Christian, and Jalen have decent shooting
performances, and if David can avoid getting into foul trouble, that also seems
possible.
Yeah, Baylor is undefeated and highly ranked, but they definitely looked rusty
against Iowa State. A stronger opponent could have taken the Bears out on
Tuesday. They could be vulnerable to an upset, especially in Allen Field House.
Although Greenfield says that Baylor has no reported injuries at this time, I
heard something about Tchatchoua not yet being out of virus protocol. Will
their leading rebounder be available to play?
What do the prognosticators think? Well, a couple have actually picked the
Jayhawks. Sagarin's eigenvector analysis favors Kansas by 3.05 points, and
inexplicably, Seven Overtimes is also favoring Kansas by 3 points. No, I can't
explain that, as Baylor is ranked 75 spots higher than Kansas by Bashuk.
Dunkel is the pessimist, favoring Baylor by 11.5 points, with Sagarin's Recent
Games close behind at 10.7 points. Most favor Baylor by 5 to 7 points, with
the average being 5.37 points. That's a two-possession game and well within
a standard deviation.
Baylor has a negative trend, mainly because they had so many double-digit
above-expectation performance early in the season. They're coming off their
worst performance of the season, almost 17 points below expectation, and that
was in Waco, no less. They do have a positive mental toughness rating, but it
is not statistically significant. Kansas has a positive trend, though it is
likewise not statistically signficant, while the negative mental toughness
rating is significant; that costs the Jayhawks about 4 points in the prediction.
Kansas was a missed dunk away from defeating Texas in Austin, holding the
Longhorns to 66 points in regulation. Beating Baylor doesn't see so
far-fetched. And it would prevent the number of home losses under Self from
growing to something in excess of the number of conference championships.
Greenfield Stats Comparison
===========================
Offensive Stats BU KU Defensive Stats BU KU
Points/Game 86.4 73.0 Opp Points/Game 63.3 66.9
Avg Score Margin +23.1 +6.1 Opp Effective FG % 47.5 47.2
Assists/Game 17.7 13.8 Off Rebounds/Gm 11.2 10.2
Total Rebounds/Gm 37.4 37.8 Def Rebounds/Gm 23.4 24.9
Effective FG % 58.6 49.6 Blocks/Game 4.1 4.0
Off Rebound % 35.9 30.0 Steals/Game 9.7 6.7
FTA/FGA 0.274 0.297 Personal Fouls/Gm 16.5 15.9
Turnover % 14.7 15.1
Kansas has the advantage in just two of the eight offensive categories
and in just three of the seven defensive categories.
My Stats Comparison KU BU
=================== ============= ============
Performance -0.68 (7) +3.43 (1)
Inconsistency 11.25 (10) 9.56 (3)
Trend +0.14 ± 0.34 -0.50 ± 0.43
Mental toughness -0.49 ± 0.25 +0.06 ± 0.20
Average total pts 139.83 (7) 149.78 (2)
The number in parentheses is the conference ranking.
Common Opponents
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There are seven common opponents, all in conference, five of which Kansas has played
twice (Oklahoma, TCU, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Texas), and only two that both
teams have played twice (Kansas State, Iowa State) for which I will use only the
home-home and road-road permutations, plus the head-to-head in Waco, giving us
fifteen scores to compare:
KU +18 KSU on road (+22 neutral court) KU +23 KSU at home (+19 neutral court)
BU +31 KSU on road (+35 neutral court) BU +48 KSU at home (+44 neutral court)
KU -9 BU at home (-13 neutral court) KU -21 BU at home (-25 neutral court)
KU +14 ISU on road (+18 neutral court) KU +33 ISU at home (+29 neutral court)
BU +11 ISU on road (+15 neutral court) BU +5 ISU at home ( +1 neutral court)
KU +7 BU at home ( +3 neutral court) KU +32 BU at home (+28 neutral court)
KU +4 OU at home ( 0 neutral court) KU -7 OU on road ( -3 neutral court)
BU +15 OU at home (+11 neutral court) BU +15 OU at home (+11 neutral court)
KU -7 BU at home (-11 neutral court) KU -10 BU at home (-14 neutral court)
KU +29 TCU on road (+33 neutral court) KU +8 TCU at home ( +4 neutral court)
BU +18 TCU on road (+22 neutral court) BU +18 TCU on road (+22 neutral court)
KU +15 BU at home (+11 neutral court) KU -14 BU at home (-18 neutral court)
KU +1 TTU on road ( +5 neutral court) KU +6 TTU at home ( +2 neutral court)
BU +8 TTU on road (+12 neutral court) BU +8 TTU on road (+12 neutral court)
KU -3 BU at home ( -7 neutral court) KU -6 BU at home (-10 neutral court)
KU -5 OSU on road ( -1 neutral court) KU +12 OSU at home ( +8 neutral court)
BU +15 OSU on road (+19 neutral court) BU +15 OSU on road (+19 neutral court)
KU -16 BU at home (-20 neutral court) KU -7 BU at home (-11 neutral court)
KU -5 UT on road ( -1 neutral court) KU -25 UT at home (-29 neutral court)
BU +14 UT on road (+18 neutral court) BU +14 UT on road (+18 neutral court)
KU -15 BU at home (-19 neutral court) KU -43 BU at home (-47 neutral court)
KU -8 BU on road ( -4 neutral court)
KU 0 BU at home ( -4 neutral court)
Three of the comparisons favor Kansas and one is a wash, while the remaining eleven
favor Baylor. The average is 6.47 points in favor of Baylor, with a scatter of
16.82 points. Decrease the home court advantage to just 2 points, and the average
margin becomes 7.80 points.
Players to Watch
================
most minutes Davion Mitchell (guard)
most points Jared Butler (guard)
most rebounds Jonathan Tchamwa Tchatchoua (forward)
most assists Davion Mitchell (guard)
most steals Jared Butler (guard)
most blocks Mark Vital (guard)
most turnovers Jared Butler (guard)
most fouls Davion Mitchell (guard)
17-8 18-0
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas Baylor
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall -5.09 69 74 32 # 13 # 17 # 2 # 92
Sagarin Predictor -4.20 69 73 34.4 # 12 # 17 # 2 # 92
Sagarin Golden Mean -5.55 68 74 # 15 # 17 # 2 # 92
Sagarin Recent Games -10.70 66 77 # 29 # 17 # 3 # 92
Sagarin Eigenvector +3.05 73 70 61
Massey -3.00 69 72 40 # 12 # 26 # 2 # 92
Pomeroy -6.52 67 74 # 23 # 20 # 2 #109
Greenfield -5.00 68.5 73.5 # 12 # 8 # 2 # 21
Dunkel -11.50 64 75 # 23 # 2
Vegas (via Dunkel) -5.00 68.5 73.5
Dolphin Predictive -3.94 70 74 36.5 # 17 # 14 # 3 # 24
Real Time -6.00 73 79 38.7 # 38 # 23 # 3 #201
Seven Overtimes +3.00 68 65 52 # 84 # 5 # 9 # 78
DPPI -7.80 69 77 24.6 # 24 # 21 # 2 #137
ESPN BPI -7.60 23.8 # 20 # 23 # 1 # 90
Whitlock -6.64 # 22 # 35 # 2 # 99
Colley Matrix -6.48 # 18 # 19 # 3 #104
NCAA NET # 17 # 2
LRMC # 16 # 22 # 5 #103
common opponents -7.80
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average -5.37 68.7 73.6 38.1
scatter 3.74 2.4 3.3 12.1
Here is Kansas' season, for which the current season projection is now 18-9:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 1 Gonzaga 90 102 -7.30 -4.70
NEUT #205 Saint Joseph's-Pa. 94 72 +19.53 +2.47
NEUT # 50 Kentucky 65 62 +5.28 -2.28
Div2 Washburn 89 54
HOME #157 North Dakota State 65 61 +17.94 -13.94
HOME # 10 Creighton 73 72 +1.72 -0.72
HOME #295 Omaha(Neb.-Omaha) 95 50 +26.76 +18.24
AWAY # 19 Texas Tech 58 57 -0.71 +1.71
HOME # 16 West Virginia 79 65 +2.77 +11.23
HOME # 23 Texas 59 84 +4.10 -29.10
AWAY # 92 TCU 93 64 +8.48 +20.52
HOME # 25 Oklahoma 63 59 +4.34 -0.34
AWAY # 39 Oklahoma State 70 75 +2.19 -7.19
AWAY # 2 Baylor 69 77 -8.17 +0.17
AWAY # 25 Oklahoma 68 75 +0.36 -7.36
HOME # 92 TCU 59 51 +12.46 -4.46
AWAY # 14 Tennessee 61 80 -1.40 -17.60
HOME #149 Kansas State 74 51 +17.44 +5.56
AWAY # 16 West Virginia 79 91 -1.21 -10.79
HOME # 39 Oklahoma State 78 66 +6.17 +5.83
HOME #130 Iowa State 97 64 +15.55 +17.45
AWAY #130 Iowa State 64 50 +11.57 +2.43
AWAY #149 Kansas State 59 41 +13.46 +4.54
HOME # 19 Texas Tech 67 61 +3.27 +2.73
AWAY # 23 Texas 72 75 +0.12 -3.12
HOME # 2 Baylor -4.19 0.344
HOME #174 UTEP +19.24 0.958
Here is Baylor's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT #200 Louisiana 112 82 +25.24 +4.76
NEUT #169 Washington 86 52 +22.99 +11.01
NEUT # 5 Illinois 82 69 +3.41 +9.59
HOME #154 Stephen F. Austin 83 52 +23.95 +7.05
AWAY #149 Kansas State 100 69 +19.64 +11.36
HOME #354 Ark.-Pine Bluff 99 42 +43.42 +13.58
HOME #327 Central Arkansas 93 56 +36.12 +0.88
HOME #347 Alcorn State 105 76 +40.22 -11.22
AWAY #130 Iowa State 76 65 +17.75 -6.75
HOME # 25 Oklahoma 76 61 +10.52 +4.48
AWAY # 92 TCU 67 49 +14.66 +3.34
AWAY # 19 Texas Tech 68 60 +5.47 +2.53
HOME # 12 Kansas 77 69 +8.17 -0.17
AWAY # 39 Oklahoma State 81 66 +8.37 +6.63
HOME #149 Kansas State 107 59 +23.62 +24.38
HOME # 69 Auburn 84 72 +15.49 -3.49
AWAY # 23 Texas 83 69 +6.30 +7.70
HOME #130 Iowa State 77 72 +21.73 -16.73
AWAY # 12 Kansas +4.19 0.656
AWAY # 16 West Virginia +4.97 0.727
HOME # 39 Oklahoma State +12.35 0.931
HOME # 19 Texas Tech +9.45 0.855
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3 years 9 months ago #26434
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Strange days when KU is the decided underdog and home on the hardwood.
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