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Bill Self KU and Career Won-Lost Record AY2020-21
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3 years 9 months ago - 3 years 9 months ago #26374
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Phog -73 and counting...
Man, do I love updating this stuff when the count goes down!
But I repeat myself yet again... and hope to do so yet again on Saturday after the Tech game!!
The original AY2022-23 "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog as the all-time winningest KU coach assumed KU continued to average 30 wins a season from the AY2020-21 season on, and that Bill would continue to coach for KU beyond his current contract, which ends with the AY2021-22 season. With COVID19 and the down year of AY2020-21, I changed the projected pass year to AY2023-24.
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger.
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
Man, do I love updating this stuff when the count goes down!
But I repeat myself yet again... and hope to do so yet again on Saturday after the Tech game!!
WON-LOST
as KU HC NAME (W-L%) CAREER (W-L%)
1. 590-219 Phog Allen (.729) 746-264 (.739)
2. 517-116 BILL SELF (.817) 724-221 (.766)
73 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.
SELF'S PROJECTED "PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger.
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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3 years 9 months ago - 3 years 9 months ago #26392
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Phog -72 and counting...
Now 5 wins in a row! Keep on trucking, Jayhawks! Beat the Horns on Tuesday!The original AY2022-23 "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog as the all-time winningest KU coach assumed KU continued to average 30 wins a season from the AY2020-21 season on, and that Bill would continue to coach for KU beyond his current contract, which ends with the AY2021-22 season. With COVID19 and the down year of AY2020-21, I changed the projected pass year to AY2023-24.
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas coach Bill Self says stepping down never crossed his mind in wake of ongoing NCAA case
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
Now 5 wins in a row! Keep on trucking, Jayhawks! Beat the Horns on Tuesday!
WON-LOST
as KU HC NAME (W-L%) CAREER (W-L%)
1. 590-219 Phog Allen (.729) 746-264 (.739)
2. 518-116 BILL SELF (.817) 725-221 (.766)
72 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.
SELF'S PROJECTED "PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas coach Bill Self says stepping down never crossed his mind in wake of ongoing NCAA case
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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3 years 9 months ago - 3 years 9 months ago #26413
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Phog -72 and counting...
Last regular season game -- SENIOR NIGHT -- Beat Baylor!
Keep at least one streak going into next season...The original AY2022-23 "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog as the all-time winningest KU coach assumed KU continued to average 30 wins a season from the AY2020-21 season on, and that Bill would continue to coach for KU beyond his current contract, which ends with the AY2021-22 season. With COVID19 and the down year of AY2020-21, I changed the projected pass year to AY2023-24.
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas coach Bill Self says stepping down never crossed his mind in wake of ongoing NCAA case
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
Last regular season game -- SENIOR NIGHT -- Beat Baylor!
Keep at least one streak going into next season...
WON-LOST
as KU HC NAME (W-L%) CAREER (W-L%)
1. 590-219 Phog Allen (.729) 746-264 (.739)
2. 518-117 BILL SELF (.816) 725-222 (.766)
72 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.
SELF'S PROJECTED "PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas coach Bill Self says stepping down never crossed his mind in wake of ongoing NCAA case
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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3 years 8 months ago #26446
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Phog -71 and counting...
They beat previously undefeated Baylor!
ROCK CHALK, JAYHAWKS!
Now go beat UTEP to seal the season on a two game winning streak!The original AY2022-23 "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog as the all-time winningest KU coach assumed KU continued to average 30 wins a season from the AY2020-21 season on, and that Bill would continue to coach for KU beyond his current contract, which ends with the AY2021-22 season. With COVID19 and the down year of AY2020-21, I changed the projected pass year to AY2023-24.
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas coach Bill Self says stepping down never crossed his mind in wake of ongoing NCAA case
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
They beat previously undefeated Baylor!
ROCK CHALK, JAYHAWKS!
Now go beat UTEP to seal the season on a two game winning streak!
WON-LOST
as KU HC NAME (W-L%) CAREER (W-L%)
1. 590-219 Phog Allen (.729) 746-264 (.739)
2. 519-117 BILL SELF (.816) 726-222 (.766)
71 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.
SELF'S PROJECTED "PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas coach Bill Self says stepping down never crossed his mind in wake of ongoing NCAA case
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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3 years 8 months ago #26513
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Phog -70 and counting...
Won the final home game of the season for a 38th straight season!
Now - on to the Big 12 Tournament!
Just win!The original AY2022-23 "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog as the all-time winningest KU coach assumed KU continued to average 30 wins a season from the AY2020-21 season on, and that Bill would continue to coach for KU beyond his current contract, which ends with the AY2021-22 season. With COVID19 and the down year of AY2020-21, I changed the projected pass year to AY2023-24.
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas coach Bill Self says stepping down never crossed his mind in wake of ongoing NCAA case
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
Won the final home game of the season for a 38th straight season!
Now - on to the Big 12 Tournament!
Just win!
WON-LOST
as KU HC NAME (W-L%) CAREER (W-L%)
1. 590-219 Phog Allen (.729) 746-264 (.739)
2. 520-117 BILL SELF (.816) 727-222 (.766)
70 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.
SELF'S PROJECTED "PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger
and
KUSports.com - Tait: Kansas coach Bill Self says stepping down never crossed his mind in wake of ongoing NCAA case
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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3 years 7 months ago - 3 years 7 months ago #26880
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
AY2020-21 Final report
2021-03-28
Phog -68 and counting for winningest KU Head Coach ever.
Phog -17 and counting to tie Phog in most total Career wins by a KU coach (should pass in AY2021-22).You will note -
Allowing that Bill passes Phog's Career totals next year, he will still be just the second winningest men's basketball coach to ever coach at KANSAS.
Roy only stayed at KU long enough to record a 418-101 KANSAS record, but he went on to pass Phog in Career wins with his other team as they won the NC in 2009.
Roy (who turns 71 in August) is 903-264 (.774) after 33 seasons coaching KU (15) and the tarred ones (18).
Bill (who turns 59 in December) after 28 seasons still has a long way to go -- 174 more wins than Roy over X seasons -- to catch and pass him in total career wins..
But will Roy stay long enough to reach 1,000 wins? Another 100 wins projects to take at least 4 more seasons (his average record the last 5 years is 23-11).
Back to and closing with Bill passing Phog -- assuming a return to 31 game seasons and two consecutive incredible seasons for the Jayhawks, Bill could mathematically pass Phog in two years, i.e., at the end of the AY2022-23 postseason, but winning 68 games in two consecutive seasons is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Self has had back-to back seasons totally 68 or more wins twice.
60+ WIN CONSECUTIVE SEASONS
70 wins AY2006-07 and AY2007-08
68 wins AY2009-10 and AY2010-11
67 wins AY2010-11 and AY2011-12
64 wins (a) AY2007-08 and AY 2008-09 (b) AY2015-16 and AY2016-17
63 wins AY2011-12 and AY2012-13
62 wins AY2016-17 and AY2017-18
Until the NCAA case is settled the prospects for future KU teams doing so well are nowhere near rosy.
Accordingly, allowing averaging 23 wins a year for the next 3 years, my "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog is AY2023-24.
May he beat that projection!
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger.
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.[/quote]
2021-03-28
Phog -68 and counting for winningest KU Head Coach ever.
Phog -17 and counting to tie Phog in most total Career wins by a KU coach (should pass in AY2021-22).
WON-LOST
as KU HC NAME (W-L%) CAREER (W-L%)
1. 590-219 Phog Allen (.729) 746-264 (.739)
2. 522-118 BILL SELF (.816) 729-223 (.766)
68 = Wins to tie Phog as winningest Head Coach in KANSAS history.
17 = Wins to tie Phog as second winningest KANSAS Head Coach for TOTAL CAREER.
SELF'S PROJECTED "KU PASS YEAR": AY2023-24
Allowing that Bill passes Phog's Career totals next year, he will still be just the second winningest men's basketball coach to ever coach at KANSAS.
Roy only stayed at KU long enough to record a 418-101 KANSAS record, but he went on to pass Phog in Career wins with his other team as they won the NC in 2009.
Roy (who turns 71 in August) is 903-264 (.774) after 33 seasons coaching KU (15) and the tarred ones (18).
Bill (who turns 59 in December) after 28 seasons still has a long way to go -- 174 more wins than Roy over X seasons -- to catch and pass him in total career wins..
But will Roy stay long enough to reach 1,000 wins? Another 100 wins projects to take at least 4 more seasons (his average record the last 5 years is 23-11).
Back to and closing with Bill passing Phog -- assuming a return to 31 game seasons and two consecutive incredible seasons for the Jayhawks, Bill could mathematically pass Phog in two years, i.e., at the end of the AY2022-23 postseason, but winning 68 games in two consecutive seasons is HIGHLY UNLIKELY. Self has had back-to back seasons totally 68 or more wins twice.
60+ WIN CONSECUTIVE SEASONS
70 wins AY2006-07 and AY2007-08
68 wins AY2009-10 and AY2010-11
67 wins AY2010-11 and AY2011-12
64 wins (a) AY2007-08 and AY 2008-09 (b) AY2015-16 and AY2016-17
63 wins AY2011-12 and AY2012-13
62 wins AY2016-17 and AY2017-18
Until the NCAA case is settled the prospects for future KU teams doing so well are nowhere near rosy.
Accordingly, allowing averaging 23 wins a year for the next 3 years, my "Pass Year" projection for Bill passing Phog is AY2023-24.
May he beat that projection!
See
KUSports.com: How much longer will Bill Self coach? by Matt Tait.
and
KC Star: KU coach Bill Self addresses NBA rumors: ‘I look forward to being here for a long time’ by Sam Mellinger.
NB:
AY2019-20 final record was 28-3 as there was no postseason play.[/quote]
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Last Edit: 3 years 7 months ago by HawkErrant. Reason: Fixed Roy's record
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