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4 years 8 months ago #25129
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Can lightning strike twice?
TCU gave Kansas the lead in the race for the Big 12 crown by beating
Baylor in Fort Worth this past Saturday. Can they make history by
beating both #2 and #1 in consecutive games? Can the Horned Frogs
giveth and then taketh away?
Perhaps even more amazingly, TCU managed to beat Baylor without two
of their players. It's unclear if they'll be available for today's
game, but hey, if they can beat Baylor without them, that says a lot
about the bench.
The difference, of course, is that Saturday's game was in Fort Worth.
Today's game is in the friendly confines of Allen Field House, and
it's Senior Night, no less. It's unclear whether Udoka will play,
and getting him healthy for the NCAA Tournament is presumably a
bigger priority, so if he does play, I suspect it will be for minimal
minutes, and perhaps late in the game, so that when Self takes him
out of the game, the crowd will know it's time to give him a standing
ovation. McCormack will need to avoid the foul fest that he's become
known for lately, otherwise it'll be a five guard line-up, as Silvio
won't be eligible until this weekend, and that's according to the
Big 12. Self's penalty was an indefinite suspension, which means it
could last longer than the Big 12's suspension. They won't burn
Lightfoot's redshirt, not at this point in the season, especially with
Silvio available starting this Saturday.
The various predictions average 18.7 points in favor of Kansas. The
most optimistic is the DPPI at 23.8 points, followed closely by
Sagarin's Eignevector analysis at 23.5 points, then Colley at 23.3
points, then RealTimeRPI at 23.0 points. The most pessimistic is
Dunkel at just 11.0 points, followed by Seven Overtimes at just 14.0
points.
Sagarin Predictor says 16.6 points, but only once has Kansas played
more than 16.6 points below expectation, the first Baylor game, as we
all well know. TCU has played above expectation by more than 16.6
points only twice, in essentially their first and last non-conference
games against Louisiana and George Mason (I'm ignoring the opener
against Division III Southwestern and the SEC Challenge game embedded
in the conference schedule). That's just three instances out of 58
total games played by both teams for just a 5 percent chance of Kansas
losing today's home finale (there are no Sagarin ratings for either
Chaminade or Southwestern, so those games can't be included in the
computations).
The trend and mental toughness ratings are negative for both teams,
though the trend for Kansas is not statistically significant, and a
negative mental toughness rating actually helps against a weaker
opponent, so they give Kansas a 3 point boost. TCU's negative trend
is barely significant, but their mental toughness is highly significant,
and it costs them dearly against a tough opponent (though they overcame
that against Baylor), hurting the Horned Frogs by 11 points. So if I
had included my trend analysis in the list below, it would be the most
optimistic at 23.9 points.
TCU is in the middle of the conference in terms of inconsistency, yet
more inconsistent than the national average. Their trip to Lubbock
resulted in playing more than 36 points below expectation, a rare
event indeed. In fact, the only time TCU played above expectation in
a conference road game was against Kansas State, their first conference
road game of the season. So maybe we can discount their two most recent
home game victories over West Virginia and Baylor.
For me, the wild card is whether Udoka plays or not. That's a big
source of uncertainty. He's really come a long ways this season, and
is now grabbing more rebounds, blocking more shots, and getting more
dunks with his footwork and post moves. Bane is the key for TCU, and
Garrett should be able to negate a lot of his offense. TCU's defense
is only ranked #64 by Pomeroy, so Dotson should be able to get to the
rim a lot. Of course, if we decide to jack up a lot of threes and
miss most, it can be one of those games, but it would take Doke being
out and McCormack being on the bench with foul trouble before we'd
have no inside game.
Another intangible: When was the last time Kansas lost on Senior Night?
And with a share of the Big 12 title ours to earn?
Greenfield Stats Comparison
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Offensive Stats TCU KU Defensive Stats TCU KU
Points/Game 65.0 74.2 Opp Points/Game 64.7 60.4
Avg Score Margin +0.3 +13.8 Opp Effective FG % 49.3 43.4
Assists/Game 14.4 14.1 Off Rebounds/Gm 9.8 9.2
Total Rebounds/Gm 35.5 38.6 Def Rebounds/Gm 22.5 26.6
Effective FG % 49.1 53.9 Blocks/Game 4.8 4.9
Off Rebound % 30.5 30.8 Steals/Game 6.8 7.6
FTA/FGA 0.280 0.357 Personal Fouls/Gm 16.5 14.7
Turnover % 18.4 16.2
Kansas leads in thirteen of the fifteen categories. TCU has fractional
more assists per game and grabs fractional more offensive rebounds per
game.
Common Opponents
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There are eight common opponents, all in conference, one of which TCU
has played twice (Texas Tech), one of which Kansas has played twice
(Oklahoma), and six of which both have played twice (everybody else),
in which case only the home-home and away-away permutations will be
used, plus the head-to-head in Fort Worth, giving us seventeen scores
to compare:
KU +20 ISU at home (+16 neutral) KU +26 ISU on road (+30 neutral)
TCU +2 ISU at home ( -2 neutral) TCU -7 ISU on road ( -3 neutral)
KU +22 TCU at home (+18 neutral) KU +37 TCU at home (+33 neutral)
KU +4 KSU on road ( +8 neutral) KU +21 KSU at home (+17 neutral)
TCU +2 KSU on road ( +6 neutral) TCU +11 KSU at home ( +7 neutral)
KU +6 TCU at home ( +2 neutral) KU +14 TCU at home (+10 neutral)
KU +25 OSU at home (+21 neutral) KU +15 OSU on road (+19 neutral)
TCU +12 OSU at home ( +8 neutral) TCU -15 OSU on road (-11 neutral)
KU +17 TCU at home (+13 neutral) KU +34 TCU at home (+30 neutral)
KU +9 WVU on road (+13 neutral) KU +7 WVU at home ( +3 neutral)
TCU -32 WVU on road (-28 neutral) TCU +7 WVU at home ( +3 neutral)
KU +45 TCU at home (+41 neutral) KU +4 TCU at home ( 0 neutral)
KU +14 OU on road (+18 neutral) KU +17 OU at home (+13 neutral)
TCU -20 OU on road (-16 neutral) TCU -20 OU on road (-16 neutral)
KU +38 TCU at home (+34 neutral) KU +33 TCU at home (+29 neutral)
KU +3 TTU at home ( -1 neutral) KU +3 TTU at home ( -1 neutral)
TCU +11 TTU at home ( +7 neutral) TCU -46 TTU on road (-42 neutral)
KU -4 TCU at home ( -8 neutral) KU +45 TCU at home (+41 neutral)
KU +11 UT at home ( +7 neutral) KU +9 UT on road (+13 neutral)
TCU -1 UT at home ( -5 neutral) TCU -14 UT on road (-10 neutral)
KU +16 TCU at home (+12 neutral) KU +27 TCU at home (+23 neutral)
KU +3 BU on road ( +7 neutral) KU -12 BU at home (-16 neutral)
KU -16 BU on road (-12 neutral) TCU +3 BU at home ( -1 neutral)
KU +23 TCU at home (+19 neutral) KU -11 TCU at home (-15 neutral)
KU +14 TCU on road (+18 neutral)
KU +22 TCU at home (+18 neutral)
Fifteen of the comparisons favor Kansas, while two favor TCU.
The average favors Kansas by 21.6 points with a scatter of 16.4 points.
Players to Watch
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most minutes Desmond Bane (guard)
most points Desmond Bane (guard)
most rebounds Kevin Samuel (center)
most assists Desmond Bane (guard)
most steals Desmond Bane (guard)
most blocks Kevin Samuel (center)
most turnovers R. J. Nembhard (guard)
most fouls Jaedon Ledee (forward)
Nembhard has sat out the last two games with a groin injury, and it's unknown
if he will be able to play against Kansas. He's second in minutes played, and
so is a significant contributor. Guard Francisco Farabello has been held from
competition for the last two games with concussion-like symptoms, and it's
unknown if he will be able to play. He's fifth in minutes played, so represents
a fairly significant contributor as well. Then again, TCU managed to beat Baylor
without either of them. Forward Mickey Pearson Jr. is redshirting this season.
26-3 16-13
Margin Predicted Win Prb Kansas TCU
Predictor points Score percent Rating SOS Rating SOS
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
Sagarin Overall +17.39 71 53 92 # 1 # 4 # 69 # 39
Sagarin Predictor +16.58 70 54 94.1 # 2 # 4 # 70 # 39
Sagarin Golden Mean +16.63 70 54 # 1 # 4 # 65 # 39
Sagarin Recent Games +19.27 72 52 # 1 # 4 # 74 # 39
Sagarin Eigenvector +23.50 74 50 95
Massey +21.00 74 53 96 # 1 # 1 # 70 # 49
Pomeroy +17.01 70 53 # 1 # 3 # 84 # 35
Greenfield +16.00 72.5 56.5 # 1 # 1 # 76 # 54
Dunkel +11.00 71.5 60.5 # 2 # 87
Vegas (via Dunkel) +16.50 72.5 56
Dolphin Predictive +16.37 73 56 93.6 # 1 # 1 # 86 # 45
Real Time +23.00 81 58 84.6 # 1 # 1 #103 # 48
Seven Overtimes +14.00 73 59 88 # 1 # 4 #134 # 9
DPPI +23.80 77 53 98.6 # 1 # 1 # 91 # 32
ESPN BPI +20.90 96.8 # 1 # 9 # 97 # 48
Whitlock +19.00 # 1 # 7 # 76 # 38
Colley Matrix +23.27 # 1 # 1 # 74 # 26
NCAA NET # 1 # 92
LRMC # 2 # 1 #117 # 29
common opponents +21.65
==================== ====== ========= ======= ============ ============
average +18.7 73.0 54.9
scatter 3.6 3.0 2.9
The only ones not ranking Kansas as #1 are Sagarin Predictor (Duke by 0.25 points),
Dunkel (Gonzaga), and LRMC (Gonzaga).
Here is Kansas' season, for which the projected record is now 28-3.
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 1 Duke 66 68 -0.25 -1.75
HOME # 89 NC Greensboro 74 62 +18.45 -6.45
HOME #201 Monmouth-NJ 112 57 +27.21 +27.79
HOME # 69 East Tennessee State(ETS 75 63 +16.57 -4.57
Div2 Chaminade 93 63
NEUT # 26 BYU 71 56 +7.70 +7.30
NEUT # 21 Dayton 90 84 +7.20 -1.20
HOME # 34 Colorado 72 58 +12.34 +1.66
HOME #258 Milwaukee 95 68 +30.55 -3.55
NEUT #231 Kansas City(UMKC) 98 57 +25.72 +15.28
AWAY # 17 Villanova 55 56 +3.54 -4.54
AWAY # 55 Stanford 72 56 +8.45 +7.55
HOME # 12 West Virginia 60 53 +9.12 -2.12
AWAY # 64 Iowa State 79 53 +9.43 +16.57
HOME # 5 Baylor 55 67 +7.25 -19.25
AWAY # 43 Oklahoma 66 52 +6.75 +7.25
AWAY # 48 Texas 66 57 +7.15 +1.85
HOME # 83 Kansas State 81 60 +17.69 +3.31
HOME # 45 Tennessee 74 68 +13.27 -7.27
AWAY # 57 Oklahoma State 65 50 +8.74 +6.26
HOME # 22 Texas Tech 78 75 +10.52 -7.52
HOME # 48 Texas 69 58 +13.61 -2.61
AWAY # 70 TCU 60 46 +10.13 +3.87
AWAY # 12 West Virginia 58 49 +2.66 +6.34
HOME # 43 Oklahoma 87 70 +13.21 +3.79
HOME # 64 Iowa State 91 71 +15.89 +4.11
AWAY # 5 Baylor 64 61 +0.79 +2.21
HOME # 57 Oklahoma State 83 58 +15.20 +9.80
AWAY # 83 Kansas State 62 58 +11.23 -7.23
HOME # 70 TCU +16.59 0.941
AWAY # 22 Texas Tech +4.06 0.637
Here is TCU's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
Div3 Southwestern 83 62
HOME #215 Louisiana 98 65 +14.59 +18.41
HOME #211 Air Force 65 54 +14.39 -3.39
HOME #106 UC Irvine 59 58 +6.68 -5.68
NEUT # 58 Clemson 60 62 -1.33 -0.67
NEUT #261 Wyoming 64 47 +14.11 +2.89
HOME #200 Illinois State 81 69 +13.76 -1.76
HOME # 60 Southern California 78 80 +2.13 -4.13
HOME #146 Winthrop 70 60 +9.56 +0.44
HOME #259 Lamar 79 50 +17.20 +11.80
HOME # 44 Xavier-Ohio 59 67 -0.14 -7.86
HOME #170 George Mason 87 53 +11.26 +22.74
HOME # 64 Iowa State 81 79 +2.53 -0.53
AWAY # 83 Kansas State 59 57 -2.13 +4.13
HOME # 57 Oklahoma State 52 40 +1.84 +10.16
AWAY # 12 West Virginia 49 81 -10.70 -21.30
AWAY # 43 Oklahoma 63 83 -6.61 -13.39
HOME # 22 Texas Tech 65 54 -2.84 +13.84
AWAY # 40 Arkansas 67 78 -6.70 -4.30
HOME # 48 Texas 61 62 +0.25 -1.25
AWAY # 5 Baylor 52 68 -12.57 -3.43
AWAY # 57 Oklahoma State 57 72 -4.62 -10.38
HOME # 2 Kansas 46 60 -10.13 -3.87
AWAY # 22 Texas Tech 42 88 -9.30 -36.70
HOME # 83 Kansas State 68 57 +4.33 +6.67
AWAY # 48 Texas 56 70 -6.21 -7.79
HOME # 12 West Virginia 67 60 -4.24 +11.24
AWAY # 64 Iowa State 59 66 -3.93 -3.07
HOME # 5 Baylor 75 72 -6.11 +9.11
AWAY # 2 Kansas -16.59 0.059
HOME # 43 Oklahoma -0.15 0.495
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