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predictions for UC Davis game
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7 years 8 months ago #12593
by asteroid
Kansas hasn't played an opponent ranked this low since the UNLV game in
December. The danger lies in underestimating the opponent. UC Davis is
on a four-game winning streak, while Kansas is on a one-game losing streak.
On the flip side, UC Davis has never played an opponent as strong as Kansas
this season; their strongest opponent was #52 California, and that game
resulted in a 25 point road loss for the Aggies.
Sagarin gives Kansas a 22.8 point margin, with a 99.8 percent probability of
winning the game. UC Davis has been playing games that average 138.0 total
points, comparable to Texas, the second-lowest scoring team in the Big 12.
By comparison, Kansas has been playing games that average 155.1 total points,
the second-highest in the Big 12. The average of the two teams is therefore
146.5 points, suggesting a final score of Kansas 85, UC Davis 62. Kansas
has been playing 0.3 points above expectation, while the Aggies have been
playing 0.2 points below expectation, which increases the margin for Kansas
to 23.3 points. The inconsistency for Kansas remains at an astonishingly
low 6.7 points, and the Jayhawks' worst performance came in Morgantown when
they played 11.6 points below expectation (the recent TCU game was almost as
bad at 11.1 points), so it would take a meltdown of epic proportions to lose
today's game, meaning twice as bad as their worst. By way of comparison,
the inconsistency for the Aggies is somewhat higher at 9.1 points, but their
best performance came at home against Santa Barbara, when they played just
14.9 points above expectation. They would have to do 50 percent better than
that to win today's game. You can see why the probability of Kansas winning
is as high as 99.8 percent. Yes, that four-game winning streak has given
UC Davis a positive trend, while the trend for Kansas slipped into negative
territory after the loss to TCU, but neither is statistically significant.
The mental toughness rating for Kansas is marginally significant, but recall
that a negative value works in the Jayhawks' favor when playing a weaker
opponent. Meanwhile, the mental toughness for UC Davis is strongly negative,
which works against them when playing a tougher opponent. Taken at face
value, the margin for Kansas becomes 29.1 points. The various Sagarin ratings
suggest margins in the 22.8 to 25.4 point range, with the "offense defense"
method being among the most favorable of those, suggesting a final score of
Kansas 88, UC Davis 63.
Massey gives Kansas a 21.0 point margin, with a 96 percent probability of
winning the game. His projected final score is Kansas 84, UC Davis 63.
Pomeroy has Kansas with the better adjusted offense by 22.9 units, as well as
the better adjusted defense by 7.0 units. Those combine to a 29.9 units
advantage for Kansas. With the average adjusted tempo being 69.4 possessions,
the margin would be 20.8 points. The final score would then be Kansas 83,
UC Davis 62. By the way, UC Davis is Pomeroy's lowest ranked team in the
tournament.
Greenfield gives Kansas a 22.5 point margin, with a Vegas implied final score
of Kansas 83, UC Davis 61. Among the key offensive stats, Kansas has the
advantage in seven out of eight categories; UC Davis attempts 0.044 more free
throws per field goal attempt. Among the key defensive stats, Kansas has the
advantage in six of the seven categories; UC Davis holds opponents to 3.7
fewer points per game.
Dunkel gives Kansas a 29.5 point margin, and he claims that a Vegas line is at
22.5 points, so he is picking Kansas in both the game and against the spread.
His total points is a mere 139, suggesting a final score of Kansas 84,
UC Davis 55. Meanwhile, the Vegas total is 145.5, suggesting a final score of
Kansas 84, UC Davis 61.5 (you pick the rounding). Interesting that the score
for Kansas is 84 either way, despite the rather different prognostications.
Real Time gives Kansas a measley 13.0 point margin, with a 74.9 percent
probability of winning the game, and a final score of Kansas 81, UC Davis 68.
Kansas dropped to #3 in the RPI behind Villanova and Arizona, according to
Collegiate Basketball News.
Dolphin gives Kansas a 22.64 point margin, with a 97.4 percent probability of
winning, and a final score of Kansas 86, UC Davis 63.
Colley gives Kansas a 23.1 point margin using the scaling factor of 42.23
as determined previously.
Whitlock gives Kansas a 21.3 point margin using the scaling factor of 0.730 as
determined previously.
The new and improved BPI gives Kansas a 27.2 point margin, with a 98.3 percent
probability of winning.
Kansas dropped a spot in the LRMC to #7.
Seven Overtimes has only 13 game predictions up out of 16 games today, and the
Kansas versus UC Davis game is among the 3 missing, presumably because the
game involves a "First Four" opponent (the Kansas State versus Cincinnati
prediction is also missing) and he simply hasn't gotten around to updating his
database. So much for his commitment to college basketball during its prime
portion of the season.
Crotistics gives Kansas a 16.0 point margin.
There is one common opponent, namely Long Beach State, who UC Davis played
both home and away as part of the Big West Conference, giving us two scores
to compare:
KU +30 LBSU at home (+27 neutral court) KU +30 LBSU at home (+27 neutral court)
UCD -9 LBSU on road ( -6 neutral court) UCD +4 LBSU at home ( +1 neutral court)
KU +33 UCD neutral (+33 neutral court) KU +26 UCD neutral (+26 neutral court)
Both comparisons favor Kansas rather significantly, with the average being
29.5 points.
Players to watch: Guard Brynton Lemar plays the most minutes and scores the most
points. Forward Chima Moneke grabs the most rebounds and blocks the most shots,
but also commits the most turnovers. Guard Darius Graham dishes the most assists.
Guard Lawrence White is their leading thief. Forward John Adenrele commits the
most personal fouls.
So, the various prognostications range from a 13 point win (Real Time) to a 29.5 point
win (Dunkel, common opponents). The average is 23.5 points in favor of Kansas,
suggesting a final score of Kansas 85, UC Davis 62.
Rock Chalk!
=================================== Sagarin ====================================
Rate SoS PP GM Rcnt Perf Inc. Trend Mental Tufness
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------- --------------
Kansas # 6 # 8 # 7 # 3 # 3 +0.3 6.7 -0.04 +/- 0.13 -0.13 +/- 0.13
UC Davis #199 #264 #202 #188 #182 -0.2 9.1 +0.08 +/- 0.17 -0.51 +/- 0.26
= Massey = = Pomeroy = Greenfield Dunkel Real Time === RPI ===
Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate Rate SoS Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Kansas # 5 # 2 # 10 # 7 # 6 # 4 # 8 # 3 # 33 # 3 # 29
UC Davis #135 #272 #216 #300 #212 #252 #159 #138 #320 #155 #307
======================= Dolphin ====================== =====
Std. Med. Pre. IRPI RPI Pair Poll Sched Recrd
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- -----
Kansas # 2 # 2 # 11 # 2 # 3 # 2 # 3 1.168 28-4
UC Davis #164 #163 #218 #163 #157 #139 #174 -0.419 23-12
= Colley = Whitlock ESPN BPI == LRMC == == 7OT === Crotistics
Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Kansas # 2 # 22 # 5 # 6 # 10 # 12 # 7 # 3 # 16 # 9 # 11 # 24
UC Davis #169 #314 #215 #314 #215 #314 #198 #323 #195 #152 #198 #338
Here is Kansas' season, including the higher seeded opponent in the
tournament bracket, along with the cumulative probability of reaching
that level and ultimately winning the national championship (3.0 percent):
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 31 Indiana 99 103 +6.83 -10.83
NEUT # 8 Duke 77 75 +0.00 +2.00
HOME #174 Siena 86 65 +23.82 -2.82
HOME #168 UAB 83 63 +23.39 -3.39
HOME # 58 Georgia 65 54 +13.39 -2.39
HOME #128 NC Asheville 95 57 +21.09 +16.91
HOME #204 Long Beach State 91 61 +26.24 +3.76
HOME # 88 Stanford 89 74 +17.43 -2.43
HOME #233 Kansas City(UMKC) 105 62 +27.84 +15.16
HOME # 98 Nebraska 89 72 +18.27 -1.27
HOME # 83 Davidson 89 71 +16.89 +1.11
AWAY #223 UNLV 71 53 +21.13 -3.13
AWAY # 40 TCU 86 80 +5.10 +0.90
HOME # 33 Kansas State 90 88 +10.10 -8.10
HOME # 38 Texas Tech 85 68 +11.12 +5.88
AWAY # 60 Oklahoma 81 70 +7.40 +3.60
HOME # 23 Oklahoma State 87 80 +6.79 +0.21
AWAY # 14 Iowa State 76 72 -1.06 +5.06
HOME # 62 Texas 79 67 +13.60 -1.60
AWAY # 4 West Virginia 69 85 -4.45 -11.55
AWAY # 5 Kentucky 79 73 -4.14 +10.14
HOME # 16 Baylor 73 68 +5.06 -0.06
HOME # 14 Iowa State 89 92 +5.00 -8.00
AWAY # 33 Kansas State 74 71 +4.04 -1.04
AWAY # 38 Texas Tech 80 79 +5.06 -4.06
HOME # 4 West Virginia 84 80 +1.61 +2.39
AWAY # 16 Baylor 67 65 -1.00 +3.00
HOME # 40 TCU 87 68 +11.16 +7.84
AWAY # 62 Texas 77 67 +7.54 +2.46
HOME # 60 Oklahoma 73 63 +13.46 -3.46
AWAY # 23 Oklahoma State 90 85 +0.73 +4.27
NEUT # 40 TCU 82 85 +8.13 -11.13
NEUT #202 UC Davis +22.78 0.998 0.998
NEUT # 28 Miami-Florida +6.51 0.763 0.761
NEUT # 12 Purdue +1.21 0.553 0.421
NEUT # 6 Louisville -0.69 0.470 0.198
NEUT # 2 North Carolina -2.09 0.409 0.081
NEUT # 1 Gonzaga -3.10 0.367 0.030
Here is UC Davis' season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT #161 Tennessee State 64 78 -2.77 -11.23
AWAY #117 Santa Clara 63 58 -8.17 +13.17
NEUT #321 Northern Arizona 89 76 +9.42 +3.58
Div2 Holy Names 89 75
NEUT #297 Sacramento State 81 72 +6.43 +2.57
NEUT #171 Weber State 58 86 -2.14 -25.86
NEUT #244 Drake 64 58 +2.78 +3.22
NEUT #100 Oakland-Mich. 66 79 -7.39 -5.61
AWAY #215 Idaho 66 68 -2.11 +0.11
AWAY # 52 California 61 86 -15.93 -9.07
AWAY #162 North Dakota State 70 74 -5.80 +1.80
NAIA William Jessup 87 64
AWAY #208 Air Force 67 77 -2.48 -7.52
AWAY #280 Seattle 72 65 +1.86 +5.14
HOME #177 Utah Valley 83 69 +1.07 +12.93
HOME #313 UC Santa Barbara 73 47 +11.07 +14.93
HOME #289 Cal Poly-SLO 68 64 +8.79 -4.79
AWAY #295 UC Riverside 55 61 +3.23 -9.23
AWAY #255 CS Northridge 71 68 +0.34 +2.66
AWAY #242 Hawai'i 76 70 -0.37 +6.37
HOME #123 UC Irvine 74 65 -1.87 +10.87
AWAY #289 Cal Poly-SLO 70 74 +2.73 -6.73
AWAY #313 UC Santa Barbara 67 64 +5.01 -2.01
HOME #250 CS Fullerton 74 65 +6.05 +2.95
HOME #295 UC Riverside 77 63 +9.29 +4.71
AWAY #204 Long Beach State 69 78 -2.60 -6.40
AWAY #250 CS Fullerton 72 79 -0.01 -6.99
HOME #255 CS Northridge 96 85 +6.40 +4.60
HOME #204 Long Beach State 75 71 +3.46 +0.54
HOME #242 Hawai'i 68 59 +5.69 +3.31
AWAY #123 UC Irvine 49 79 -7.93 -22.07
NEUT #289 Cal Poly-SLO 66 55 +5.76 +5.24
NEUT #250 CS Fullerton 66 64 +3.02 -1.02
NEUT #123 UC Irvine 50 47 -4.90 +7.90
NEUT #184 NC Central 67 63 -1.58 +5.58
NEUT # 7 Kansas -22.78 0.002
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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #12594
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Thanks, asteroid! Looking forward to 5 more of your prognostications this postseason!
Here's to our Jayhawks making it so!
Here's to our Jayhawks making it so!
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7 years 8 months ago #12595
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Would like to see an easy game for once. A lot of years we seem to make that first game, which should be easier, too close for too long while our fellow seeds blow their opponents out of the water. As long as we win, I guess!!
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7 years 8 months ago #12598
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Education Is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence~Robert Frost
Thank you!
Always nice to get some skinny on the game before tip-off!
Go Hawks!
Always nice to get some skinny on the game before tip-off!
Go Hawks!
Education Is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence~Robert Frost
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by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Yeah, I know, it's just one data point, but hey, it's a *good* thing!
Hopefully Friday marks the start of a new positive trend to be continued on Sunday and beyond!
Hopefully Friday marks the start of a new positive trend to be continued on Sunday and beyond!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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