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7 years 8 months ago #12275
by asteroid
Let the Madness begin.
Sagarin gives Kansas an 8.3 point margin, with an 87.1 percent probability of
winning the game. The two teams average 149.0 points, so the suggested final
score is Kansas 79, TCU 70, with the rounding working to the Jayhawks' favor.
Kansas has played an average of 0.4 points above expectation, while TCU has
played an average of 0.7 points above expectation, which decreases the margin
for Kansas to just 8.0 points. Kansas is the conference's most consistent
team, while TCU is the conference's third-most consistent team, differing by
1.6 points. Kansas has played just 4 out of 31 games below expectation by
more than 8.3 points (West Virginia road game, Indiana, Iowa State home game,
and Kansas State home game), which would be enough to lose today's game,
corresponding to a 12.9 percent chance of losing. Meanwhile, TCU has played
7 out of 31 Division I games above expectation by more than 8.3 points,
including their most recent game, which would be enough to win today's game,
corresponding to a 22.6 percent chance of the Horned Frogs winning. Those
two average to a 17.7 percent chance of Kansas losing the game, slightly more
pessimistic than the 12.9 percent chance of losing derived from the Sagarin
Predictor ratings. The trend for Kansas is essentially flat, while the trend
for TCU is negative, though not statistically significant. Both teams have
negative mental toughness ratings, with the value for Kansas being of marginal
significance and the value for TCU being quite significant. That works in the
Jayhawks' favor, increasing the margin to 9.9 points. The various Sagarin
rating methods produce a range of margins from 7.8 to 11.2 points, with the
"offense-defense" method favoring Kansas by 8.0 points, suggesting a final
score of Kansas 79, TCU 71. But one must ask the question, how many points is
Josh Jackson worth?
Massey gives Kansas a 10.0 point margin, with an 83 percent probability of
winning the game. His projected final score is Kansas 80, TCU 70.
Pomeroy has Kansas with the better adjusted offense by 8.1 units, as well as
the better adjusted defense by 3.0 units. Those combine to an 11.1 units
advantage for Kansas. With the average adjusted tempo being 69.0 possessions,
the margin would be just 7.7 points. The final score would then be Kansas 77,
TCU 69.
Greenfield gives Kansas a 7.5 point underdog, with a Vegas implied final score
of Kansas 78.5 (you pick the rounding), TCU 71. Among the key offensive stats,
Kansas has the advantage in seven out of eight categories; TCU dishes 0.4 more
assists per game. Among the key defensive stats, Kansas has the advantage in
four of the seven categories; TCU holds opponents to 2.3 fewer points per game,
blocks 0.2 more shots per game, and commits 0.7 fewer personal fouls per game.
Dunkel gives Kansas a 10.5 point margin, and he claims that a Vegas line is at
7.0 points, so he is picking Kansas in both the game and against the spread.
His total points is 154, suggesting a final score of Kansas 82, TCU 72.
Meanwhile, the Vegas total is 148.5, suggesting a final score of Kansas 78,
TCU 71.
Real Time gives Kansas a 9.0 point margin, with a 67.2 percent probability
of winning the game, and a final score of Kansas 80, TCU 71.
Kansas remains #2 in the RPI behind Villanova, according to Collegiate
Basketball News.
Dolphin gives Kansas a 7.8 point margin, with a 74.9 percent probability of
winning, and a final score of Kansas 79, TCU 71.
No update from Don Davis.
Colley gives Kansas a 15.3 point margin using the scaling factor of 42.23
as determined previously.
Whitlock gives Kansas a 9.2 point margin using the scaling factor of 0.730 as
determined previously.
The new and improved BPI gives Kansas an 11.4 point margin, with an 85.3 percent
probability of winning.
Kansas dropped a spot in the LRMC to #6.
Seven Overtimes gives Kansas a 15.0 point margin, an 88 percent probability of
winning, and projects a final score of Kansas 82, TCU 67.
Crotistics gives Kansas a 7.7 point margin.
There are nine common opponents, eight in conference, plus UNLV. I'll use the
home-home and road-road permutations for the regular season conference games,
both Kansas games with Oklahoma to compare against TCU's conference tournament
game against Oklahoma, giving us twenty-one scores to compare:
KU +18 UNLV on road (+21 neutral court)
TCU +4 UNLV on road ( +7 neutral court)
KU +14 TCU neutral (+14 neutral court)
KU +10 OU at home ( +7 neutral court) KU +11 OU on road (+14 neutral court)
TCU +3 OU at home ( 0 neutral court) TCU -5 OU on road ( -2 neutral court)
KU +7 TCU neutral ( +7 neutral court) KU +16 TCU neutral (+16 neutral court)
KU +10 OU at home ( +7 neutral court) KU +11 OU on road (+14 neutral court)
TCU +19 OU neutral (+19 neutral court) TCU +19 OU neutral (+19 neutral court)
KU -8 TCU neutral ( -8 neutral court) KU -5 TCU neutral ( -5 neutral court)
KU -16 WVU on road (-13 neutral court) KU +4 WVU at home ( +1 neutral court)
TCU -12 WVU on road ( -9 neutral court) TCU -1 WVU at home ( -4 neutral court)
KU -4 TCU neutral ( -4 neutral court) KU +5 TCU neutral ( +5 neutral court)
KU +10 UT on road (+13 neutral court) KU +12 UT at home ( +9 neutral court)
TCU +3 UT on road ( +6 neutral court) TCU +15 UT at home (+12 neutral court)
KU +7 TCU neutral ( +7 neutral court) KU -3 TCU neutral ( -3 neutral court)
KU -3 ISU at home ( -6 neutral court) KU +4 ISU on road ( +7 neutral court)
TCU +7 ISU at home ( +4 neutral court) TCU -13 ISU on road (-10 neutral court)
KU -10 TCU neutral (-10 neutral court) KU +17 TCU neutral (+17 neutral court)
KU +1 TTU on road ( +4 neutral court) KU +17 TTU at home (+14 neutral court)
TCU -6 TTU on road ( -3 neutral court) TCU +1 TTU at home ( -2 neutral court)
KU +7 TCU neutral ( +7 neutral court) KU +16 TCU neutral (+16 neutral court)
KU +5 BU at home ( +2 neutral court) KU +2 BU on road ( +5 neutral court)
TCU -9 BU at home (-12 neutral court) TCU -18 BU on road (-15 neutral court)
KU +14 TCU neutral (+14 neutral court) KU +20 TCU neutral (+20 neutral court)
KU +5 OSU on road ( +8 neutral court) KU +7 OSU at home ( +4 neutral court)
TCU -13 OSU on road (-10 neutral court) TCU -3 OSU at home ( -6 neutral court)
KU +18 TCU neutral (+18 neutral court) KU +10 TCU neutral (+10 neutral court)
KU +3 KSU on road ( +6 neutral court) KU +2 KSU at home ( -1 neutral court)
TCU +6 KSU on road ( +9 neutral court) TCU -1 KSU at home ( -4 neutral court)
KU -3 TCU neutral ( -3 neutral court) KU +3 TCU neutral ( +3 neutral court)
KU +19 TCU at home (+16 neutral court) KU +6 TCU on road ( +9 neutral court)
KU +16 TCU neutral (+16 neutral court) KU +9 TCU neutral ( +9 neutral court)
Fifteen of the twenty-one comparisons favor Kansas, while six favor TCU, with the
average being 7.0 points in favor of Kansas. Note that I have switched to using a
3 point home court advantage, down from the 4 points used during the regular season,
based on the end-of-regular-season analysis posted here recently.
Players to watch: Guard Alex Robinson plays the most minutes, dishes the most
assists, and is their leading thief; forward Vladimir Brodziansky scores the most
points and blocks the most shots; guard Kenrich Williams grabs the most rebounds
but also commits the most personal fouls; guard Jaylen Fisher commits the most
turnovers.
So, the various prognostications range from a 15 point win (Colley and Seven Overtimes)
to a 7 point win (Vegas, common opponents). The average is 9.5 points in favor of
Kansas, suggesting a final score of Kansas 79, TCU 70.
Rock Chalk!
And a closing quotation:
"Things that are inevitable: death, taxes, and Kansas winning the Big 12."
--Doug Gottlieb
=================================== Sagarin ====================================
Rate SoS PP GM Rcnt Perf Inc. Trend Mental Tufness
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------- --------------
Kansas # 6 # 6 # 8 # 3 # 3 +0.4 6.5 +0.03 +/- 0.13 -0.12 +/- 0.13
TCU # 44 # 13 # 38 # 47 # 48 +0.7 8.1 -0.11 +/- 0.16 -0.25 +/- 0.13
= Massey = = Pomeroy = Greenfield Dunkel Real Time === RPI ===
Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate Rate SoS Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Kansas # 2 # 1 # 9 # 6 # 6 # 3 # 4 # 1 # 31 # 1 # 18
TCU # 56 # 28 # 38 # 15 # 48 # 31 # 69 # 84 # 35 #171 # 37
======================= Dolphin ====================== ===== == DPPI ==
Std. Med. Pre. IRPI RPI Pair Poll Sched Recrd Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ---- ----
Kansas # 1 # 1 # 8 # 1 # 2 # 1 # 1 1.215 28-3 # #
TCU # 50 # 50 # 35 # 74 # 82 # 60 # 48 0.969 18-14 # #
= Colley = Whitlock ESPN BPI == LRMC == == 7OT === Crotistics
Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Kansas # 1 # 21 # 5 # 5 # 9 # 8 # 6 # 3 # 11 # 4 # 10 # 24
TCU # 71 # 30 # 50 # 32 # 51 # 32 # 47 # 16 #116 # 13 # 61 # 30
Here is Kansas' season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 31 Indiana 99 103 +6.96 -10.96
NEUT # 10 Duke 77 75 +0.73 +1.27
HOME #171 Siena 86 65 +24.13 -3.13
HOME #163 UAB 83 63 +23.55 -3.55
HOME # 53 Georgia 65 54 +13.23 -2.23
HOME #119 NC Asheville 95 57 +20.95 +17.05
HOME #210 Long Beach State 91 61 +26.82 +3.18
HOME # 89 Stanford 89 74 +17.71 -2.71
HOME #237 Kansas City(UMKC) 105 62 +28.38 +14.62
HOME # 97 Nebraska 89 72 +18.47 -1.47
HOME # 83 Davidson 89 71 +17.10 +0.90
AWAY #224 UNLV 71 53 +21.57 -3.57
AWAY # 38 TCU 86 80 +5.26 +0.74
HOME # 36 Kansas State 90 88 +11.09 -9.09
HOME # 40 Texas Tech 85 68 +11.40 +5.60
AWAY # 58 Oklahoma 81 70 +7.66 +3.34
HOME # 21 Oklahoma State 87 80 +6.94 +0.06
AWAY # 19 Iowa State 76 72 +0.16 +3.84
HOME # 61 Texas 79 67 +13.99 -1.99
AWAY # 2 West Virginia 69 85 -4.89 -11.11
AWAY # 5 Kentucky 79 73 -3.90 +9.90
HOME # 15 Baylor 73 68 +5.06 -0.06
HOME # 19 Iowa State 89 92 +6.22 -9.22
AWAY # 36 Kansas State 74 71 +5.03 -2.03
AWAY # 40 Texas Tech 80 79 +5.34 -4.34
HOME # 2 West Virginia 84 80 +1.17 +2.83
AWAY # 15 Baylor 67 65 -1.00 +3.00
HOME # 38 TCU 87 68 +11.32 +7.68
AWAY # 61 Texas 77 67 +7.93 +2.07
HOME # 58 Oklahoma 73 63 +13.72 -3.72
AWAY # 21 Oklahoma State 90 85 +0.88 +4.12
NEUT # 38 TCU +8.29 0.871
Here is TCU's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NAIA St. Thomas (TX) 82 64
HOME #341 Alabama State 98 62 +31.31 +4.69
HOME #188 Jacksonville State 79 60 +16.89 +2.11
HOME # 57 Illinois State 80 71 +5.35 +3.65
AWAY #224 UNLV 63 59 +13.28 -9.28
NEUT #126 Washington 93 80 +9.99 +3.01
HOME #126 Washington 86 71 +13.02 +1.98
HOME #141 Arkansas State 77 54 +13.93 +9.07
AWAY # 20 SMU 59 74 -8.12 -6.88
HOME #165 Wofford 72 63 +15.30 -6.30
HOME #203 Texas Southern 96 59 +18.11 +18.89
HOME #211 Bradley 74 42 +18.70 +13.30
HOME # 8 Kansas 80 86 -5.26 -0.74
HOME # 58 Oklahoma 60 57 +5.43 -2.43
AWAY # 2 West Virginia 70 82 -13.18 +1.18
AWAY # 61 Texas 64 61 -0.36 +3.36
HOME # 19 Iowa State 84 77 -2.07 +9.07
AWAY # 40 Texas Tech 69 75 -2.95 -3.05
HOME # 15 Baylor 53 62 -3.23 -5.77
AWAY # 21 Oklahoma State 76 89 -7.41 -5.59
HOME # 79 Auburn 80 88 +8.51 -16.51
AWAY # 36 Kansas State 86 80 -3.26 +9.26
HOME # 61 Texas 78 63 +5.70 +9.30
HOME # 40 Texas Tech 62 61 +3.11 -2.11
AWAY # 15 Baylor 52 70 -9.29 -8.71
HOME # 21 Oklahoma State 68 71 -1.35 -1.65
AWAY # 19 Iowa State 71 84 -8.13 -4.87
AWAY # 8 Kansas 68 87 -11.32 -7.68
HOME # 2 West Virginia 60 61 -7.12 +6.12
HOME # 36 Kansas State 74 75 +2.80 -3.80
AWAY # 58 Oklahoma 68 73 -0.63 -4.37
NEUT # 58 Oklahoma 82 63 +2.40 +16.60
NEUT # 8 Kansas -8.29 0.129
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