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7 years 9 months ago #11995
by asteroid
Trap game? Sole ownership of the conference championship has been locked up.
But, hey, it's Senior Night, and one of those seniors is Frank Mason. Let's
do this.
Sagarin gives Kansas a 13.5 point margin, with a 93.0 percent probability of
winning the game. The two teams average 151.3 points, so the suggested final
score is Kansas 82, Oklahoma 69. Kansas has played an average of 0.4 points
above expectation, while Oklahoma has played an average of 0.6 points below
expectation, which increases the margin for Kansas to 14.5 points. Kansas has
been more consistent than Oklahoma by 4.4 points. The Jayhawks have played no
games more than 13.5 points below expectation, so it would take the poorest
performance of the season to lose today's game. Meanwhile, Oklahoma has played
2 out of 28 games above expectation by more than 13.5 points, including their
most recent outing against Kansas State, and that was done without Woodard as
well. That corresponds to a 7 percent chance of Oklahoma winning the game.
Those two odds average to just a 3.6 percent chance of Kansas losing the game,
even more optimistic than the probability derived from the Sagarin Predictor
ratings. Both teams have positive trends; the value for Kansas is not
statistically significant, whereas the value for Oklahoma is marginally
significant, though caused by Saturday's trouncing of the Wildcats. Both teams
also have negative mental toughness ratings. This time the value for Oklahoma
is not statistically significant, whereas it is marginally so for Kansas, though
that helps the Jayhawks when playing a weaker opponent. Taken at face value,
the margin for Kansas would be 13.9 points. The new Sagarin "offense-defense"
method favors Kansas by 14.6 points, with a final score of Kansas 86, Oklahoma 71.
Massey gives Kansas a 14.0 point margin, with a 91 percent probability of
winning the game. His projected final score is Kansas 85, Oklahoma 71.
Pomeroy has Kansas with the better adjusted offense by 14.2 units, as well as
the better adjusted defense by 1.0 units. Those combine to a 15.2 units advantage
for Kansas. With the average adjusted tempo being 70.6 possessions, the margin
would be 10.7 points, increasing to 13.7 points after including Sagarin's 3.0 point
home court advantage. The final score would then be Kansas 81, Oklahoma 67.
Greenfield gives Kansas a 14.5 point margin, with a Vegas implied final score
of Kansas 83, Oklahoma 68.5 (you pick the rounding). Among the key offensive
stats, Kansas has the advantage in seven out of eight categories; Oklahoma
attempts 0.002 more free throws per field goal attempt. Among the key defensive
stats, Kansas has the advantage in six of the seven categories; Oklahoma blocks
0.1 more balls per game.
Dunkel gives Kansas a whopping 23.0 point margin, and he claims that a Vegas line
is at 13.5 points, so he is picking Kansas in both the game and against the
spread. His total points is 144, suggesting a final score of Kansas 83.5,
Oklahoma 60.5 (you pick the roundings). Meanwhile, the Vegas total is 153.0,
suggesting a final score of Kansas 83, Oklahoma 70.
Real Time gives Kansas a whopping 28.0 point margin, with a 93.0 percent probability
of winning the game, and a final score of either Kansas 86, Oklahoma 58 (schedule
page), or Kansas 88, Oklahoma 60 (scouting report page).
We're #1!
We're #1!
We're #1!
The road win over Baylor propelled Kansas into the #1 spot in the RPI, according
to Collegiate Basketball News, with Villanova still at #2, North Carolina at #3,
Louisville at #4, Oregon at #5, and Baylor down to #8. West Virginia is back to
being third in the Big 12 at #25, while Oklahoma State is #27. Iowa State is #36,
TCU is #60, and Kansas State sagged to #68. Texas Tech remained at #100.
Dolphin gives Kansas a 13.1 point margin, with an 86.6 percent probability of
winning, and a final score of Kansas 83, Oklahoma 70. Note that Kansas is Dolphin's
#1 team across the board, except for Predictive.
Don Davis' February 18 email gives Kansas a 15.5 point margin, with a 96.4 percent
probability of winning, and a final score of Kansas 84, Oklahoma 68.
Colley gives Kansas a 24.6 point margin using the scaling factor of 42.23
as determined previously and Sagarin's 3.0 point home court advantage.
Whitlock gives Kansas a 14.8 point margin using the scaling factor of 0.730 as
determined previously and Sagarin's 3.0 point home court advantage.
The new and improved BPI gives Kansas a 19.1 point margin, with a 94.1 percent
probability of winning.
Kansas slipped a spot in the LRMC.
Seven Overtimes gives Kansas a 17.0 point margin, a 95 percent probability of
winning, and projects a final score of Kansas 84, Oklahoma 67.
Crotistics gives Kansas a 15.9 point margin.
There are eight common opponents, all in conference, plus the head-to-head in
Norman. Using only the home-home and road-road permutations for games in which
both teams have completed their home-and-away series with the same opponent, we
have seventeen scores to compare:
KU +5 BU at home ( +1 neutral court) KU +2 BU on road ( +6 neutral court)
OU -26 BU at home (-30 neutral court) OU -6 BU on road ( -2 neutral court)
KU +35 OU at home (+31 neutral court) KU +12 OU at home ( +8 neutral court)
KU +6 TCU on road (+10 neutral court) KU +19 TCU at home (+15 neutral court)
OU -3 TCU on road ( +1 neutral court) OU -3 TCU on road ( +1 neutral court)
KU +13 OU at home ( +9 neutral court) KU +18 OU at home (+14 neutral court)
KU +3 KSU on road ( +7 neutral court) KU +2 KSU at home ( -2 neutral court)
OU -11 KSU on road ( -7 neutral court) OU +28 KSU at home (+24 neutral court)
KU +18 OU at home (+14 neutral court) KU -22 OU at home (-26 neutral court)
KU +17 TTU at home (+13 neutral court) KU +1 TTU on road ( +5 neutral court)
OU +9 TTU at home ( +5 neutral court) OU -8 TTU on road ( -4 neutral court)
KU +12 OU at home ( +8 neutral court) KU +13 OU at home ( +9 neutral court)
KU -16 WVU on road (-12 neutral court) KU +4 WVU at home ( 0 neutral court)
OU +2 WVU on road ( +6 neutral court) OU -11 WVU at home ( -7 neutral court)
KU -14 OU at home (-18 neutral court) KU +11 OU at home ( +7 neutral court)
KU -3 ISU at home ( -7 neutral court) KU +4 ISU on road ( +8 neutral court)
OU -5 ISU at home ( -9 neutral court) OU -16 ISU on road (-12 neutral court)
KU +6 OU at home ( +2 neutral court) KU +24 OU at home (+20 neutral court)
KU +10 UT on road (+14 neutral court) KU +12 UT at home ( +8 neutral court)
OU -1 UT on road ( +3 neutral court) OU +4 UT at home ( 0 neutral court)
KU +15 OU at home (+11 neutral court) KU +12 OU at home ( +8 neutral court)
KU +7 OSU at home ( +3 neutral court) KU +7 OSU at home ( +3 neutral court)
OU -2 OSU at home ( -6 neutral court) OU -4 OSU on road ( 0 neutral court)
KU +13 OU at home ( +9 neutral court) KU +7 OU at home ( +3 neutral court)
KU +11 OU on road (+15 neutral court)
KU +19 OU at home (+15 neutral court)
Fifteen of the seventeen comparisons favor Kansas, while two favor Oklahoma (the
West Virginia road game and the Kansas State home game). The average is 11.3 points
in favor of Kansas, somewhat less than what the Sagarin margin is.
Players to watch: Guard Jordan Woodward played the most minutes, scored the most
points, dished the most assists, and was their leading thief, but he also committed
the most turnovers, and also tore his ACL, so he's out; guard Rashard Odomes plays
the second-most minutes, scores the second-most points, and dishes the second-most
assists; forward Kristian Doolittle grabs the most rebounds; forward Khadeem Lattin
blocks the most shots and is their second-leading thief, but also commits the most
personal fouls. From the stats, it looks like Woodward was an indispensible part
of their team. Recall that he was activated for the first Kansas game, perhaps
unexpectedly, but Kansas managed to win by 3.5 points more than expected anyway.
And Woodard's absence certainly didn't hurt against Kansas State this past Saturday.
Hard to say how his absence will affect today's game.
So, the various prognostications range from a 28 point win (Real Time) to an 11 point
win (common opponents). The average is 16.1 points in favor of Kansas, suggesting a
final score of Kansas 84, Oklahoma 68.
Rock Chalk!
And a closing quotation:
"Things that are inevitable: death, taxes, and Kansas winning the Big 12."
--Doug Gottlieb
=================================== Sagarin ====================================
Rate SoS PP GM Rcnt Perf Inc. Trend Mental Tufness
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------- --------------
Kansas # 7 # 7 # 7 # 3 # 3 +0.4 6.7 +0.03 +/- 0.15 -0.14 +/- 0.14
Oklahoma # 58 # 1 # 56 # 64 # 68 -0.6 11.1 +0.26 +/- 0.26 -0.03 +/- 0.20
= Massey = = Pomeroy = Greenfield Dunkel Real Time === RPI ===
Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate Rate SoS Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Kansas # 2 # 1 # 8 # 5 # 6 # 2 # 6 # 3 # 27 # 1 # 18
Oklahoma # 86 # 7 # 64 # 1 # 59 # 15 # 93 #195 # 29 #171 # 37
======================= Dolphin ====================== ===== == DPPI ==
Std. Med. Pre. IRPI RPI Pair Poll Sched Recrd Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ---- ----
Kansas # 1 # 1 # 8 # 1 # 1 # 1 # 1 1.214 26-3 # #
Oklahoma # 97 # 94 # 55 #166 #167 #158 # 90 1.008 10-18 # #
= Colley = Whitlock ESPN BPI == LRMC == == 7OT === Crotistics
Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Kansas # 1 # 18 # 7 # 6 # 9 # 6 # 7 # 1 # 11 # 4 # 8 # 12
Oklahoma #138 # 24 # 77 # 5 # 72 # 1 # 62 # 12 #106 # 2 #102 # 6
Here is Kansas' season, with the latest season record projection as 27-4:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 30 Indiana 99 103 +7.02 -11.02
NEUT # 10 Duke 77 75 +0.71 +1.29
HOME #180 Siena 86 65 +24.71 -3.71
HOME #156 UAB 83 63 +23.03 -3.03
HOME # 51 Georgia 65 54 +12.68 -1.68
HOME #114 NC Asheville 95 57 +20.57 +17.43
HOME #213 Long Beach State 91 61 +27.07 +2.93
HOME # 81 Stanford 89 74 +17.01 -2.01
HOME #236 Kansas City(UMKC) 105 62 +28.32 +14.68
HOME # 86 Nebraska 89 72 +17.29 -0.29
HOME # 85 Davidson 89 71 +17.28 +0.72
AWAY #228 UNLV 71 53 +21.91 -3.91
AWAY # 40 TCU 86 80 +5.62 +0.38
HOME # 44 Kansas State 90 88 +11.66 -9.66
HOME # 35 Texas Tech 85 68 +10.94 +6.06
AWAY # 56 Oklahoma 81 70 +7.51 +3.49
HOME # 19 Oklahoma State 87 80 +6.89 +0.11
AWAY # 18 Iowa State 76 72 +0.31 +3.69
HOME # 61 Texas 79 67 +14.15 -2.15
AWAY # 2 West Virginia 69 85 -4.98 -11.02
AWAY # 4 Kentucky 79 73 -4.15 +10.15
HOME # 15 Baylor 73 68 +5.52 -0.52
HOME # 18 Iowa State 89 92 +6.31 -9.31
AWAY # 44 Kansas State 74 71 +5.66 -2.66
AWAY # 35 Texas Tech 80 79 +4.94 -3.94
HOME # 2 West Virginia 84 80 +1.02 +2.98
AWAY # 15 Baylor 67 65 -0.48 +2.48
HOME # 40 TCU 87 68 +11.62 +7.38
AWAY # 61 Texas 77 67 +8.15 +1.85
HOME # 56 Oklahoma +13.51 0.930
AWAY # 19 Oklahoma State +0.89 0.535
Here is Oklahoma's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #308 Northwestern State 97 61 +23.57 +12.43
NEUT #237 Tulane 89 70 +14.91 +4.09
NEUT #140 Northern Iowa 67 73 +8.79 -14.79
NEUT # 38 Clemson 70 64 -2.06 +8.06
HOME #297 Abilene Christian 72 64 +22.24 -14.24
HOME #286 Northern Colorado 87 66 +21.12 -0.12
AWAY # 17 Wisconsin 70 90 -10.55 -9.45
HOME #229 Oral Roberts 92 66 +17.41 +8.59
HOME # 11 Wichita State 73 76 -6.31 +3.31
HOME # 79 Memphis 94 99 +6.03 -11.03
NEUT # 80 Auburn 70 74 +3.25 -7.25
HOME # 15 Baylor 50 76 -4.99 -21.01
AWAY # 40 TCU 57 60 -4.89 +1.89
AWAY # 44 Kansas State 64 75 -4.85 -6.15
HOME # 7 Kansas 70 81 -7.51 -3.49
HOME # 35 Texas Tech 84 75 +0.43 +8.57
AWAY # 2 West Virginia 89 87 -15.49 +17.49
HOME # 18 Iowa State 87 92 -4.20 -0.80
AWAY # 61 Texas 83 84 -2.36 +1.36
HOME # 8 Florida 52 84 -7.49 -24.51
HOME # 19 Oklahoma State 66 68 -3.62 +1.62
AWAY # 35 Texas Tech 69 77 -5.57 -2.43
HOME # 2 West Virginia 50 61 -9.49 -1.51
AWAY # 18 Iowa State 64 80 -10.20 -5.80
HOME # 61 Texas 70 66 +3.64 +0.36
AWAY # 19 Oklahoma State 92 96 -9.62 +5.62
AWAY # 15 Baylor 54 60 -10.99 +4.99
HOME # 44 Kansas State 81 53 +1.15 +26.85
AWAY # 7 Kansas -13.51 0.070
HOME # 40 TCU +1.11 0.546
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