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7 years 9 months ago #11472
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Baylor's back is against the wall. They realize that they must win today to
have any realistic chance at winning the conference championship. Like a
wounded animal, that will make them extra dangerous.
Sagarin makes Kansas a 1.11 point underdog, with a 44.2 percent probability of
winning the game. The two teams average 145.6 points, so the suggested final
score is Kansas 72, Baylor 73. Kansas has played an average of 0.32 points
above expectation, while Baylor has played an average of 0.55 points above
expectation, which increases the margin for Baylor to 1.34 points. Baylor has
been more consistent than the national average, though not as consistent as
Kansas. The Jayhawks have played 9 out of 26 games above expectation by more
than 1.11 points, corresponding to a 34.6 percent chance of winning the game.
Meanwhile, Baylor has played 12 out of 25 Division I games below expectation
by more than 1.11 points, corresponding to a 48.0 percent chance of losing the
game. Those average to a 41.3 percent chance of Kansas winning, slightly less
optmistic than what was derived from the Sagarin Predictor ratings. Both teams
have negative trends, though neither is statistically significant. Kansas has
a negative mental toughness rating of marginal statistical significance, while
Baylor's is positive, though not statistically significant. Taken at face
value, the margin for Baylor would be 1.36 points. Meanwhile, the new Sagarin
"offense-defense" method favors Baylor by 1.74 points, with a final score of
Kansas 71, Baylor 73.
Massey makes Kansas a 2.0 point underdog, with a 43 percent probability of
winning the game. His projected final score is Kansas 71, Baylor 73.
Pomeroy has Kansas with the better adjusted offense by 4.7 units, but Baylor
has the better adjusted defense by 4.8 units. With the average adjusted
tempo being 67.4 possessions, Baylor's neutral court margin would be only
0.07 points. But after accounting for Sagarin's 3.05 point home court
advantage, the Bear become a 3.12 point favorite. The final score would then
be Kansas 70, Baylor 73.
Greenfield makes Kansas a 1.5 point underdog, with a Vegas implied final score
of Kansas 71.5 (you pick the rounding), Baylor 73. Among the key offensive
stats, Kansas has the advantage in seven of the eight categories; Baylor has
a higher offensive rebound percentage. Among the key defensive stats, Kansas
has the advantage in just three of the seven categories, namely grabbing more
offensive rebounds, grabbing more defensive rebounds, and stealing more balls.
Dunkel gives Kansas an 8.0 point margin, and he claims that a Vegas line is at
2 points in favor of Baylor, so he is obviously picking Kansas both in the game
and against the spread. Dunkel's total points is 149, suggesting a final score
of Kansas 78.5, Baylor 70.5 (you pick the roundings), while the Vegas total is
142.0, suggesting a final score of Kansas 70, Baylor 72.
Real Time makes Kansas an 8.0 point underdog, with a 33.6 percent probability
of winning the game, and a final score of Kansas 78, Baylor 86.
Collegiate Basketball News still has Baylor at #1 in the RPI, with Villanova
still at #2. Kansas remained in the #3 slot. Oklahoma State is still third
in the Big 12 at #28, while West Virginia is #30. Iowa State is #46, while
TCU dropped all the way to #49, and Kansas State dropped to #56. Texas Tech
is #86, but that alone doesn't look like enough for the Red Raiders to be
dancing next month.
Dolphin makes Kansas a 1.62 point underdog with a 44.4 percent probability of
winning, and a final score of Kansas 70, Baylor 72.
Don Davis' January 26 email makes Kansas a 2.3 point underdog, with a 36.3 percent
probability of winning and a final score of Kansas 71, Baylor 74. But that email
was produced right after the loss to West Virginia in Morgantown, and before the
win over Kentucky in Lexington, so the prediction is out of date. Don, I need
an update!
Colley makes Kansas a 3.4 point underdog using the scaling factor of 42.23
as determined previously and Sagarin's 3.05 point home court advantage.
Whitlock makes Kansas a 1.9 point underdog using the scaling factor of 0.730 as
determined previously and Sagarin's 3.05 point home court advantage.
The new and improved BPI makes Kansas a 2.8 point underdog, with a 39.1 percent
probability of winning.
The LRMC has Gonzaga ranked as #1, West Virginia as #2, Kansas as #9, and
Baylor as #13.
Seven Overtimes hasn't yet posted its predictions for Saturday's games. I'm
not going to wait for them.
Crotistics makes Kansas a 4.1 point underdog.
There are eight common opponents, all in conference, four of which Kansas has
played twice (Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, West Virginia), and four of
which Baylor has played twice (Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas Tech),
plus the head-to-head in Lawrence, giving us fifteen scores to compare
(because I'll use only the home-home and road-road permutations for the
Kansas State and Texas Tech games, whom both have played twice):
KU +11 OU on road (+15 neutral court)
BU +26 OU on road (+30 neutral court)
KU -19 BU on road (-15 neutral court)
KU -3 ISU at home ( -7 neutral court) KU +4 ISU on road ( +8 neutral court)
BU +2 ISU at home ( -2 neutral court) BU +2 ISU at home ( -2 neutral court)
KU -9 BU on road ( -5 neutral court) KU +6 BU on road (+10 neutral court)
KU +7 OSU at home ( +3 neutral court) KU +7 OSU at home ( +3 neutral court)
BU +4 OSU at home ( 0 neutral court) BU +3 OSU on road ( +7 neutral court)
KU -1 BU on road ( +3 neutral court) KU -8 BU on road ( -4 neutral court)
KU -16 WVU on road (-12 neutral court) KU +4 WVU at home ( 0 neutral court)
BU -21 WVU on road (-17 neutral court) BU -21 WVU on road (-17 neutral court)
KU +1 BU on road ( +5 neutral court) KU +13 BU on road (+17 neutral court)
KU +3 KSU on road ( +7 neutral court) KU +2 KSU at home ( -2 neutral court)
BU +9 KSU on road (+13 neutral court) BU -2 KSU at home ( -6 neutral court)
KU -10 BU on rado ( -6 neutral court) KU 0 BU on road ( +4 neutral court)
KU +12 UT at home ( +8 neutral court)
BU +10 UT at home ( +6 neutral court)
KU -2 BU on road ( +2 neutral court)
KU +6 TCU on road (+10 neutral court) KU +6 TCU on road (+10 neutral court)
BU +9 TCU on road (+13 neutral court) BU +18 TCU at home (+14 neutral court)
KU -7 BU on road ( -3 neutral court) KU -8 BU on road ( -4 neutral court)
KU +17 TTU at home (+13 neutral court) KU +1 TTU on road ( +5 neutral court)
BU +4 TTU at home ( 0 neutral court) BU -6 TTU on road ( -2 neutral court)
KU +9 BU on road (+13 neutral court) KU +3 BU on road ( +7 neutral court)
KU +5 BU at home ( +1 neutral court)
KU -3 BU on road ( -3 neutral court)
Only five of the fifteen comparisons favor Kansas, with one being a wash,
giving Baylor the advantage in nine of them, but the average is only
2.3 points in favor of Baylor.
Players to watch: Guard Manu Lecomte plays the most minutes and dishes the
most assists; forward Johnathan Motley scores the most points and grabs the
most rebounds, but also commits the most turnovers and the most personal
fouls; forward Jo Acuil blocks the most shots; guard Ish Wainright is their
leading thief; guard Al Freeman has been suspended for violation of team
rules, and he's basically their sixth man.
So, the various prognostications range from an 8 point win (Dunkel) to an
8 point loss (Real Time). The average is 1.79 points in favor of Baylor,
suggesting a final score of Kansas 72, Baylor 74.
Rock Chalk!
=================================== Sagarin ====================================
Rate SoS PP GM Rcnt Perf Inc. Trend Mental Tufness
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- -------------- --------------
Kansas # 7 # 4 # 10 # 4 # 3 +0.3 6.8 -0.07 +/- 0.18 -0.17 +/- 0.14
Baylor # 12 # 3 # 14 # 11 # 10 +0.6 8.3 -0.18 +/- 0.23 +0.14 +/- 0.16
= Massey = = Pomeroy = Greenfield Dunkel Real Time === RPI ===
Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate Rate SoS Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Kansas # 3 # 1 # 9 # 4 # 8 # 2 # 9 # 3 # 21 # 3 # 15
Baylor # 5 # 7 # 8 # 6 # 15 # 6 # 13 # 4 # 6 # 1 # 2
======================= Dolphin ====================== ===== == DPPI ==
Std. Med. Pre. IRPI RPI Pair Poll Sched Recrd Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ----- ---- ----
Kansas # 3 # 3 # 10 # 2 # 3 # 2 # 3 1.199 23-3 # #
Baylor # 4 # 4 # 14 # 4 # 1 # 4 # 4 1.160 22-4 # #
= Colley = Whitlock ESPN BPI == LRMC == == 7OT === Crotistics
Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS Rate SoS
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
Kansas # 3 # 20 # 7 # 1 # 11 # 6 # 9 # 1 # 5 # 1 # 11 # 14
Baylor # 2 # 7 # 11 # 20 # 14 # 10 # 13 # 5 # 17 # 15 # 12 # 8
Here is Kansas' season, with the latest season record projection as 27-4:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
NEUT # 30 Indiana 99 103 +6.49 -10.49
NEUT # 9 Duke 77 75 -0.17 +2.17
HOME #181 Siena 86 65 +24.67 -3.67
HOME #151 UAB 83 63 +22.43 -2.43
HOME # 49 Georgia 65 54 +12.56 -1.56
HOME #116 NC Asheville 95 57 +20.51 +17.49
HOME #212 Long Beach State 91 61 +26.83 +3.17
HOME # 85 Stanford 89 74 +17.14 -2.14
HOME #241 Kansas City(UMKC) 105 62 +28.36 +14.64
HOME # 80 Nebraska 89 72 +16.54 +0.46
HOME # 83 Davidson 89 71 +16.93 +1.07
AWAY #207 UNLV 71 53 +20.23 -2.23
AWAY # 42 TCU 86 80 +5.26 +0.74
HOME # 32 Kansas State 90 88 +10.34 -8.34
HOME # 35 Texas Tech 85 68 +10.70 +6.30
AWAY # 65 Oklahoma 81 70 +8.58 +2.42
HOME # 22 Oklahoma State 87 80 +7.14 -0.14
AWAY # 18 Iowa State 76 72 +0.35 +3.65
HOME # 59 Texas 79 67 +13.98 -1.98
AWAY # 2 West Virginia 69 85 -5.55 -10.45
AWAY # 3 Kentucky 79 73 -4.54 +10.54
HOME # 14 Baylor 73 68 +4.99 +0.01
HOME # 18 Iowa State 89 92 +6.45 -9.45
AWAY # 32 Kansas State 74 71 +4.24 -1.24
AWAY # 35 Texas Tech 80 79 +4.60 -3.60
HOME # 2 West Virginia 84 80 +0.55 +3.45
AWAY # 14 Baylor -1.11 0.442
HOME # 42 TCU +11.36 0.938
AWAY # 59 Texas +7.88 0.812
HOME # 65 Oklahoma +14.68 0.958
AWAY # 22 Oklahoma State +1.04 0.539
Here is Baylor's season:
SITE OPPONENT SCORE PREDIC ERROR PROB.
---- ----------------------------- ------- ------ ----- -----
HOME #224 Oral Roberts 76 61 +25.59 -10.59
HOME # 13 Oregon 66 49 +2.96 +14.04
HOME #126 Florida Gulf Coast 81 72 +19.10 -10.10
NEUT # 46 VCU(Va. Commonwealth) 71 63 +6.90 +1.10
NEUT # 48 Michigan State 73 58 +6.97 +8.03
NEUT # 4 Louisville 66 63 -3.30 +6.30
HOME #218 Sam Houston State 79 45 +25.25 +8.75
HOME # 28 Xavier-Ohio 76 61 +7.24 +7.76
HOME #307 Southern U. 89 59 +31.56 -1.56
HOME #318 Jackson State 82 57 +32.82 -7.82
NAIA John Brown 107 53
HOME #215 Texas Southern 89 63 +25.12 +0.88
AWAY # 65 Oklahoma 76 50 +6.64 +19.36
HOME # 18 Iowa State 65 63 +4.51 -2.51
HOME # 22 Oklahoma State 61 57 +5.20 -1.20
AWAY # 2 West Virginia 68 89 -7.49 -13.51
AWAY # 32 Kansas State 77 68 +2.30 +6.70
HOME # 59 Texas 74 64 +12.04 -2.04
AWAY # 42 TCU 62 53 +3.32 +5.68
HOME # 35 Texas Tech 65 61 +8.76 -4.76
AWAY # 69 Mississippi 78 75 +7.16 -4.16
AWAY # 10 Kansas 68 73 -4.99 -0.01
HOME # 32 Kansas State 54 56 +8.40 -10.40
AWAY # 22 Oklahoma State 72 69 -0.90 +3.90
HOME # 42 TCU 70 52 +9.42 +8.58
AWAY # 35 Texas Tech 78 84 +2.66 -8.66
HOME # 10 Kansas +1.11 0.558
HOME # 65 Oklahoma +12.74 0.918
AWAY # 18 Iowa State -1.59 0.438
HOME # 2 West Virginia -1.39 0.449
AWAY # 59 Texas +5.94 0.733
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7 years 9 months ago #11473
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So, you're saying we have a chance... ; )
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7 years 9 months ago #11474
by jaythawk1
Education Is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence~Robert Frost
I like your thinking!
RCJH! GO KU!
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