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Big 12 projection, Round 8 prime
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7 years 9 months ago #10820
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The changes are due strictly to changes in the Sagarin Predictor
ratings after Saturday's Challenge games. Texas nearly pulled
off the upset, while Oklahoma was pitiful, so the Whorns took
over ninth place. Meanwhile, Oklahoma State played Arkansas like
it did most of the other non-conference opponents, scoring big,
and that was enough to elevate the Pokes over Texas Tech.
Round 9 features Big Monday Bedlam; Sooners have looked bad since
knocking over West Virginia, while the Cowboys smoked Arkansas,
so Oklahoma State is projected to pick up a road win. Texas has
a toss-up game with Texas Tech. Two games involving upper
division teams with identical conference records. Is there
enough magic in Hilton to knock off the Mountaineers? Kansas
needs to win at home to keep its #1 spot in the projected standings.
Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 Rnd 6 Rnd 7 Rnd 8 8'
Pred Proj. Proj. Proj. Proj. Proj. Proj. Proj. Conf
Rank Big XII Team Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Record Next Game Prediction
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# 8 Kansas 13.40 13.60 13.84 14.52 14.52 14.05 14.24 7 1 BU (We) KU by 5.2
# 13 Baylor 12.73 12.17 12.63 12.68 13.27 13.34 13.21 7 1 @KU (We)
# 2 West Virginia 13.84 14.26 14.23 12.95 12.04 12.53 12.42 5 3 @ISU (Tu) WVU by 3.3 RW
# 19 Iowa State 10.29 11.02 10.42 9.79 10.18 10.41 10.34 5 3 WVU (Tu)
# 33 Kansas State 7.43 7.26 6.72 7.62 8.63 8.44 8.40 4 4 TCU (We) KSU by 4.3
# 36 Texas Tech 8.48 8.78 7.68 8.14 7.10 7.04 7.08 3 5 @UT (We)
# 24 Oklahoma State 7.21 6.61 6.53 5.52 6.51 7.00 7.36 2 6 @OU (Mo) OSU by 3.6 RW
# 40 TCU 7.21 7.72 8.57 8.13 7.49 6.97 6.83 3 5 @KSU (We)
# 63 Oklahoma 4.11 3.87 4.56 6.01 5.61 5.19 4.94 2 6 OSU (Mo)
# 59 Texas 5.30 4.71 4.82 4.64 4.65 5.03 5.18 2 6 TTU (We) UT by 0.4
Two road wins are projected for Round 9, though a third game is close enough
to being a toss-up that three could occur.
Road wins (14 out of 40) Home losses Differential (RW-HL)
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3 Baylor OU KSU TCU 0 Baylor +3 Baylor
3 Kansas TCU OU ISU 0 Kansas +3 Kansas
2 West Virginia OSU UT 1 Iowa State KU +1 West Virginia
2 Iowa State OSU OU 1 Kansas State BU +1 Iowa State
1 Kansas State OSU 1 Texas Tech OSU 0 Kansas State
1 Oklahoma WVU 1 West Virginia OU -1 TCU
1 Oklahoma State TTU 2 TCU KU BU -1 Texas Tech
1 TCU UT 2 Texas TCU WVU -2 Oklahoma
0 Texas 3 Oklahoma BU KU ISU -2 Oklahoma State
0 Texas Tech 3 Oklahoma State WVU ISU KSU -2 Texas
The inconsistency for Kansas jumped a little again, but still remains
amazingly low. Kansas also flipped the sign on its trend.
Performance (points) Inconsistency (points)
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West Virginia +2.04 Kansas 6.82
Oklahoma State +1.39 Kansas State 7.71
TCU +1.11 TCU 8.23
Iowa State +0.88 Texas Tech 8.50
Baylor +0.81 Baylor 8.57
Kansas State +0.69 Oklahoma 11.41
Kansas +0.55 Texas 11.66
Texas Tech +0.31 Iowa State 12.77
Oklahoma -0.90 West Virginia 13.42
Texas -0.95 Oklahoma State 14.25
Trend (points per game) Mental toughness
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Texas +0.47 +/- 0.42 Kansas State +0.24 +/- 0.13
Oklahoma State +0.28 +/- 0.56 Texas +0.21 +/- 0.25
Kansas State +0.17 +/- 0.28 Baylor +0.18 +/- 0.17
Kansas +0.07 +/- 0.25 Oklahoma State -0.05 +/- 0.25
Baylor -0.23 +/- 0.34 Oklahoma -0.08 +/- 0.23
Oklahoma -0.27 +/- 0.45 West Virginia -0.09 +/- 0.23
Texas Tech -0.31 +/- 0.31 Texas Tech -0.15 +/- 0.14
TCU -0.47 +/- 0.31 Kansas -0.16 +/- 0.15
Iowa State -0.63 +/- 0.49 Iowa State -0.23 +/- 0.23
West Virginia -0.78 +/- 0.46 TCU -0.27 +/- 0.16
Playing LSU didn't exactly help Texas Tech's strength of schedule.
Although strength of schedule ratings changed quite a bit, the rankings
were far more stable, partly because there is less room to move among
the top teams. Kansas did move ahead of Iowa State, and Kansas State
did move ahead of West Virginia.
Average offense (pts) Average defense (pts) Total Points Scoring Margin (pts)
--------------------- --------------------- ---------------------- ----------------------
Oklahoma State 87.45 Baylor 62.25 Oklahoma State 166.20 West Virginia +20.57
West Virginia 86.90 Kansas State 65.43 Kansas 155.43 Kansas +11.90
Kansas 83.67 Texas Tech 66.14 West Virginia 153.24 Iowa State +11.15
Iowa State 80.55 West Virginia 66.33 Oklahoma 151.70 Baylor +10.75
Texas Tech 75.48 Texas 69.29 Iowa State 149.95 Texas Tech +9.33
Oklahoma 75.25 TCU 69.30 TCU 144.25 Kansas State +9.14
TCU 74.95 Iowa State 69.40 Texas Tech 141.62 Oklahoma State +8.70
Kansas State 74.57 Kansas 71.76 Kansas State 140.00 TCU +5.65
Baylor 73.00 Oklahoma 76.45 Texas 138.29 Texas -0.29
Texas 69.00 Oklahoma State 78.75 Baylor 135.25 Oklahoma -1.20
Schedule Strength
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Oklahoma State 80.87 ( 1)
Oklahoma 80.72 ( 3)
Baylor 79.88 ( 7)
Texas 79.80 ( 9)
Kansas 79.28 (13)
Iowa State 78.97 (17)
TCU 77.49 (29)
Kansas State 74.98 (65)
West Virginia 74.91 (67)
Texas Tech 72.95 (99)
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7 years 9 months ago #10822
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Thanks as always, Kind Sir.
This is a critical week, it appears, for KU's pursuit of #13. Gotta beat Alfred P. Neuman's boys at home. Simple as that.
One aside, on the Big 12-SEC challenge: who makes up the game pairings? Because having WVU play lousy Texas A&M while the SEC's arguably 2nd-best team (Florida) got to play lousy OU did not benefit the Big 12 at all. Neither did Baylor playing lousy Ole Miss. Not fair or competitive pairings at all, in other words. KU-UK was appropriate; most of the others were horrible. And the current #2 SEC team (in the standings), South Carolina, didn't even have a Big 12 foe; they got to go to Columbia and slaughter the oft-slaughtered Misery squad. Weird.
This is a critical week, it appears, for KU's pursuit of #13. Gotta beat Alfred P. Neuman's boys at home. Simple as that.
One aside, on the Big 12-SEC challenge: who makes up the game pairings? Because having WVU play lousy Texas A&M while the SEC's arguably 2nd-best team (Florida) got to play lousy OU did not benefit the Big 12 at all. Neither did Baylor playing lousy Ole Miss. Not fair or competitive pairings at all, in other words. KU-UK was appropriate; most of the others were horrible. And the current #2 SEC team (in the standings), South Carolina, didn't even have a Big 12 foe; they got to go to Columbia and slaughter the oft-slaughtered Misery squad. Weird.
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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7 years 9 months ago #10824
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Pairings for this year's Challenge were announced last May, following a Final Four season for Oklahoma. The pairing with Florida seemed good at the time.
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
That's what I figured. Too bad they can't "re-seed" early in the new season, but I realize that would be logistically problematic.
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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