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Big 12 projection, Round 7
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7 years 10 months ago #10609
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Another wild and wacky round. West Virginia's loss allowed the Mountaineers to
slip into third place behind Baylor. Kansas State is the beneficiary of West
Virginia's loss, leapfrogging both TCU and Texas Tech into the upper division.
Although both TCU and Texas Tech lost, the Red Raiders arguably took the worse
loss of the two, so they sink behind TCU into seventh place. And Oklahoma
couldn't ride their upset of West Virginia in Morgantown into a home win over
Iowa State, and with Oklahoma State's sizeable win over Texas Tech, the Cowboys
regain eighth place.
All the favorites are at home for Round 8, so no projected road wins, though
we'd love to see a road win in Morgantown. One of Iowa State or Kansas State
will pick up their fourth conference loss. Right now, Kansas is projected to
win 15 conference games, if the rounding works in the Jayhawks' favor, so four
conference losses would likely take that team out of contention for the
championship. Winning in Morgantown would not only boost the projection for
Kansas over 15, it would give West Virginia that fourth conference loss. It's
within reach, and Kruger showed us how to do it. But we can't have as many
turnovers against the Mountaineers as in the previous two games.
Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Rnd 5 Rnd 6 Rnd 7
Pred Proj. Proj. Proj. Proj. Proj. Proj. Proj. Conf
Rank Big XII Team Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Wins Record Next Game Prediction
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# 8 Kansas 13.49 13.01 13.40 13.60 13.84 14.52 14.52 7 0 @WVU (Tu)
# 12 Baylor 12.36 12.69 12.73 12.17 12.63 12.68 13.27 6 1 TTU (We) BU by 10.1
# 2 West Virginia 14.75 13.76 13.84 14.26 14.23 12.95 12.04 4 3 KU (Tu) WVU by 5.4
# 18 Iowa State 10.34 10.24 10.29 11.02 10.42 9.79 10.18 4 3 KSU (Tu) ISU by 6.9
# 31 Kansas State 6.38 6.95 7.43 7.26 6.72 7.62 8.63 4 3 @ISU (Tu)
# 33 TCU 7.25 7.24 7.21 7.72 8.57 8.13 7.49 3 4 @OSU (Mo)
# 39 Texas Tech 7.73 8.88 8.48 8.78 7.68 8.14 7.10 3 4 @BU (We)
# 28 Oklahoma State 7.97 7.17 7.21 6.61 6.53 5.52 6.51 1 6 TCU (Mo) OSU by 4.4
# 54 Oklahoma 4.88 4.62 4.11 3.87 4.56 6.01 5.61 2 5 @UT (Mo)
# 61 Texas 4.85 5.44 5.30 4.71 4.82 4.64 4.65 1 6 OU (Mo) UT by 2.5
Pomeroy took honors for best prognostications in Round 7. Honorable mention to Dunkel
for being the only one to pick Oklahoma State over Texas Tech. Honorable mention to
Seven Overtimes for being the only one to pick Kansas State over West Virginia.
Sagarin regained the season lead. The BPI's initial effort wasn't very good.
Predictions Reality Error 1 1 3 1 1
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BU over TCU 2.4 4.0 3.0 2.5 5.0 2.5 4.3 1.5 3.5 2.7 -2.0 0.9 1.7 1.2 1.3 9 6.6 5.0 6.0 6.5 4.0 6.5 4.7 7.5 5.5 6.3 11.0 8.1 7.3 7.8 7.7
TTU over OSU 3.1 4.0 3.9 6.5 -4.0 6.0 5.7 4.5 5.2 6.7 5.0 4.6 2.8 3.2 5.1 -19 22.1 23.0 22.9 25.5 15.0 25.0 24.7 23.5 24.2 25.7 24.0 23.6 21.8 22.2 24.1
ISU over OU 4.2 2.0 3.3 -2.0 7.5 -1.0 5.1 4.0 2.4 2.9 -5.0 4.1 6.2 5.8 1.6 5 0.8 3.0 1.7 7.0 2.5 6.0 0.1 1.0 2.6 2.1 10.0 0.9 1.2 0.8 3.4
WVU over KSU 7.6 2.0 4.0 3.0 5.0 2.5 1.8 6.7 3.4 6.9 -4.0 4.7 9.3 8.9 2.8 -4 11.6 6.0 8.0 7.0 9.0 6.5 5.8 10.7 7.4 10.9 0.0 8.7 13.3 12.9 6.8
KU over UT 14.7 19.0 16.1 16.5 26.0 17.0 23.4 14.5 17.0 19.9 13.0 17.0 16.6 17.1 13.5 12 2.7 7.0 4.1 4.5 14.0 5.0 11.4 2.5 5.0 7.9 1.0 5.0 4.6 5.1 1.5
total this round 43.8 44.0 42.7 50.5 44.5 49.0 46.7 45.2 44.7 52.9 46.0 46.3 48.2 48.8 43.5
previous total 207.1 210.0 211.4 202.0 252.5 203.0 258.8 220.4 214.9 229.0 233.0 231.6 235.8 235.8
cumulative 250.9 254.0 254.1 252.5 297.0 252.0 305.5 265.6 259.6 52.9 275.0 279.3 279.8 284.6 279.3
per game (total of 35) 7.2 7.3 7.3 7.2 8.5 7.2 8.7 7.6 7.4 10.6 7.9 8.0 8.0 8.1 8.0
Two road wins were projected for Round 7, but three happened, and one of
the two that had been projected didn't happen, so two unexpeceted road
wins occurred. No road wins are projected for Round 8, though we'd like
to see one in Morgantown.
Road wins (14 out of 35) Home losses Differential (RW-HL)
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3 Baylor OU KSU TCU 0 Baylor +3 Baylor
3 Kansas TCU OU ISU 0 Kansas +3 Kansas
2 West Virginia OSU UT 1 Iowa State KU +1 West Virginia
2 Iowa State OSU OU 1 Kansas State BU +1 Iowa State
1 Kansas State OSU 1 Texas Tech OSU 0 Kansas State
1 Oklahoma WVU 1 West Virginia OU -1 TCU
1 Oklahoma State TTU 2 TCU KU BU -1 Texas Tech
1 TCU UT 2 Texas TCU WVU -2 Oklahoma
0 Texas 3 Oklahoma BU KU ISU -2 Oklahoma State
0 Texas Tech 3 Oklahoma State WVU ISU KSU -2 Texas
You read it here first: "might just mean another loss for Huggy Bear."
The inconsistency for Kansas is just insanely small. Not only are the
Jayhawks playing very consistently, they're somehow getting their
opponents to also play more consistently, because the average team
contributes about 7.8 points of inconsistency to the 11 point total.
Even if we assume the Big 12 as a whole is playing more consistently
than the national average, say 9 to 10 points, we're still looking at
6.4 to 7.1 points being contributed by each team. Fraschilla tells
folks that teams will play five game "worse than you are". Well, the
Indiana and Kansas State games qualify for Kansas so far. Let's hope
we don't have any of those "worse than you are" games in the next three.
Performance (points) Inconsistency (points)
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West Virginia +2.27 Kansas 6.08
TCU +1.57 Kansas State 7.32
Oklahoma State +1.15 TCU 7.52
Iowa State +1.12 Baylor 8.98
Baylor +1.07 Texas Tech 8.98
Kansas State +0.82 Oklahoma 10.37
Kansas +0.65 Texas 12.05
Texas Tech +0.36 Iowa State 13.14
Oklahoma -0.79 West Virginia 13.42
Texas -1.10 Oklahoma State 13.96
Trend (points per game) Mental toughness
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Texas +0.66 +/- 0.49 Kansas State +0.30 +/- 0.12
Kansas State +0.45 +/- 0.30 Texas +0.20 +/- 0.25
Oklahoma +0.11 +/- 0.48 Baylor +0.19 +/- 0.19
Kansas +0.07 +/- 0.26 Oklahoma -0.01 +/- 0.21
Baylor -0.02 +/- 0.42 Oklahoma State -0.07 +/- 0.25
Oklahoma State -0.09 +/- 0.65 West Virginia -0.13 +/- 0.24
TCU -0.11 +/- 0.35 Kansas -0.19 +/- 0.16
Texas Tech -0.45 +/- 0.37 Iowa State -0.20 +/- 0.24
Iowa State -0.53 +/- 0.60 Texas Tech -0.20 +/- 0.15
West Virginia -0.88 +/- 0.54 TCU -0.24 +/- 0.15
Texas is the first Big 12 team to go negative in average scoring margin.
And it was Kansas that did it to them. It will be interesting to see
where Kansas falls in strength of schedule one week from now. It is
interesting to see Oklahoma State with the nation's toughest schedule
played to date; their conference schedule was rather front-loaded. With
Kansas State on the road against Iowa State, it's fairly certain they'll
move into the top 100 in strength of schedule. And with Texas Tech on
the road against Baylor, they'll also move up the rankings, but whether
it'll be enough to crack the top 100 isn't clear.
Average offense (pts) Average defense (pts) Total Points Scoring Margin (pts)
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West Virginia 87.53 Baylor 61.61 Oklahoma State 166.06 West Virginia +22.11
Oklahoma State 86.94 Kansas State 65.16 Kansas 155.68 Kansas +13.26
Kansas 84.47 West Virginia 65.42 West Virginia 152.95 Iowa State +12.44
Iowa State 81.28 Texas Tech 66.32 Oklahoma 151.72 Baylor +11.56
Texas Tech 76.16 TCU 67.17 Iowa State 150.11 Kansas State +10.58
Oklahoma 76.11 Iowa State 68.83 Texas Tech 142.47 Texas Tech +9.84
Kansas State 75.74 Texas 69.11 TCU 141.78 Oklahoma State +7.83
TCU 74.61 Kansas 71.21 Kansas State 140.89 TCU +7.44
Baylor 73.17 Oklahoma 75.61 Texas 137.95 Oklahoma +0.50
Texas 68.84 Oklahoma State 79.11 Baylor 134.78 Texas -0.26
Schedule Strength
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Oklahoma State 80.95 ( 1)
Oklahoma 79.98 ( 4)
Baylor 79.78 ( 7)
Texas 79.27 ( 9)
Iowa State 78.22 ( 15)
Kansas 77.75 ( 21)
TCU 77.16 ( 30)
West Virginia 73.50 ( 80)
Kansas State 73.02 (102)
Texas Tech 72.13 (126)
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