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AY2016-17 KUMBB Recruiting UPDATED 2017-08-12
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In an effort to keep recruiting information and Q&As easily accessible, please consider posting your recruiting comments and questions for this recruiting season (2016-17) in this pinned thread.
Also, if you know of an error or omission, please let me know so I can correct it.
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TRACKING AY2016-17 PLAYERS and AY2017-18 RECRUITS Committed/Signed and Offered
ACADEMIC YEAR 2016-17 SIGNING PERIODS FOR D1 MEN'S BASKETBALL --
Early Signing Period window: 2016-11-09 thru 11-16
Regular Signing Period window: 2017-04-12 thru 05-17
DEPARTING PLAYERS AFTER AY2016-17 ((S) Scholarship, (W) Walk-on)
GRADUATING SENIORS
C Landen Lucas (S)
G Frank Mason (S)
G Tyler Self (W)
NBA EARLY ENTRANTS
G Josh Jackson: 2017-04-17 announcement, agent hired
2017-05-24 - deadline to withdraw from draft and retain eligibility assuming no agent is hired (date is ten days after the final day of the annual NBA Draft Combine, scheduled for May 9-14).
TRANSFERING OUT
F Carlton Bragg (S) - announced 2017-04-06 link
F Dwight Coleby (S) - announced 2017-05-15 link
OTHER LOSSES
C Evan Maxwell* (S) announced departure on Dec 31 2016 "it was not the right time for me and this will allow me to focus more on my future." www2.kusports.com/news/2016/dec/31/ku-tr...ell-leaving-program/
F TR/*** Jack Whitman 6-9/235 Lexington, KY/LCHS/William & Mary
Whitman tendered his resignation July 19, 2017, leaving a big man shortfall and Self & Co scrambling for a solid body to fill the gap for the 2017-18 season, if at all possible.
Whitman leaves KU
Self seeks to fill Whitman scholarship
G Tucker Vang (W) is not listed on the roster for 2017-18. Not aware of his situation.
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RETURNING PLAYERS and AY2017-18 STATUS (by Class; (S)cholarship or (W)alk-on)
SENIORS
G Devonté Graham (S)
G Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (S)
F Clay Young* (W)
JUNIORS
G Lagerald Vick (S)
SOPHOMORES
C Udoka Azubuike (S)
F Mitch Lightfoot (S)
G Malik Newman* (S)
*Red-shirted one year.
SCHOLARSHIPS AVAILABLE
13 total scholarships allowed each AY
- 6 returning scholarship players, depending upon Svi staying in NBA draft or not.
= 7 scholarships to fill for AY2016-17
.. 1 Scholarships still available @2017-07-19.
ACADEMIC YEAR 2017-18 RECRUITING SYNOPSIS
Sources: Rivals, 247Sports, ESPN, Scout and others; National Rank & Ratings used are Rivals.
SIGNED or COMMITTED
Pos Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT Hometown & HS/College Committed/Signed
PF 10/***** Billy Preston 6-9/220 Mouth of Wilson, VA/Oak Hill Acad 16-11-18/16-11-18
G 38/**** Marcus Garrett 6-5/180 Dallas, TX/Skyline 16-09-02/16-11-10
G TR/**** Sam Cunliffe[1] 6-6/195 Seattle, WA/Rainier Beach/ASU 17-01-07/17-01-12
F TR/**** Dedric Lawson[2] 6-9/236 Memphis, TN/Hamilton/Memphis 17-04-10/17-04-25
F TR/**** KJ Lawson[3] 6-7/210 Memphis, TN/Hamilton/Memphis 17-04-10/17-04-25
G TR/**** Charlie Moore[4] 5-11/170 Chicago, IL/Morgan Park/Cal 17-04-25/17-04-25
WALK-ONS
G -/- Chris Teahan[5] 6-5/190 KCMO/Rockhurst 17-04-25/NA
NOTES
[1] #36 in Rivals150 for 2016. Will be eligible to play for KU after the end of the Fall 2017 semester, and
through AY2020-21 if he decides to stay in school all 5 years to play 4. "Signed" date will be when he is
officially enrolled.
[2]#33 in Rivals150 for 2015. Will sit out 2017-18, will have 2 years to play 2. Originally moved up a year
to the 2015 recruiting class so he could play with his older brother KJ.
[3]#54 in Rivals150 for 2015. Will sit out 2017-18, will have 2 years to play 2, may get 3 for 3 if NCAA
approves a 6th year due to medical redshirting his freshman year (was hurt in 10th game of the season).
[4] #55 in Rivals150 for 2016. Reportedly is applying for hardship transfer status so he can play this
fall (transferring to be closer to ill father), but getting it seems unlikely as it is questionable that
Lawrence is close enough to Chicago for this to be approved.
Assuming it is NOT granted, he will have 3 years to play 3 at KU.
[5] Younger brother of Connor Teahan. Rated as the 92nd best player in Missouri according to MaxPreps.
[6] A graduate transfer starter for W&M (immediately eligible for Fall 2017). Unranked by any of the services
out of HS (rated *** by Scout, ** by ESPN, unrated by Rivals and 247Sports). Averaging 22 minutes a game
(W&M was grooming his freshman replacement last year, otherwise he might has seen more minutes), his
2016-17 stats were 10.1 PPG, 5..4 RPG, 1.2 APG, 1.1 BPG, 1.5 TPG and 2.8 FPG.
OFFERED (Multiple sources; where available, National Rank & Ratings are Rivals.)
(updated for final Rivals ranking)
(NB: ! after position indicates recruit is listed on JayhawkSlant's “Hoops Hot Board”)
P Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT Hometown & HS/College Interest
TRANSFERS BEING RECRUITED
P Rnk/Rating NAME HT/WT Hometown & College Interest
C 8/***** Mitchell Robinson 7-0/220 Chalmette, LA/Chalmette/WKU HIGH
NB: A Rivals 2017 Top 10 recruit, Robinson originally committed to WKU because his godfather was an
assistant there.
His godfather left before WKU's 2017 summer session began.
Robinson started attending 2017 summer classes, but word is he never practiced or did anything with the
team as he was considering transferring since his godfather had left.
If all the requirements have been met (and it looks like they have been), he should be able to play with
a new school right away in accordance with the transfer rules outlined in the following sections of the
NCAA Division I rules for 2017-18:
14.5.5.2 Exceptions for Transfers From Four-Year Colleges
Subsection 14.5.5.2.7 Two-Year Nonparticipation or Minimal Participation Exception.
See my 2017-08-12 post on this for more details. - HE.
Other Transfer Notes
~ will have 3 years to play 2, play immediately
^ will have 3 years to play 2 after sitting out a year
+ will have 2 years to play 2 after sitting out a year
FORMER RECRUITS (not updated once they are off KU's radar)
F 01/***** Michael Porter 6-8/190 Seattle, WA Nathan Hale Washington
F 02/***** Mohamed Bamba 6-11/205 Westtown, PA Westtown School Duke, UK, tu, Mich
C 03/***** DeAndre Ayton 7-0/250 Phoenix, AZ Hillcrest Academy Arizona
PG 04/***** Trevon Duval 6-2/189 Dallas, TX Advanced Prep Intl Duke
G 07/***** Collin Sexton 6-1/170 Mableton, GA Pebblebrook Alabama
F 09/***** Kevin Knox 6-8/197 Tampa, FL Tampa Catholic Not KU
G 10/***** Hamidou Diallo 6-4/180 Putnam, CT Putnam Science Academy Kentucky
C 11/***** Brandon McCoy 6-11/220 San Diego, CA Cathedral Catholic UNLV
G 12/***** Troy Brown 6-6/195 Las Vegas, NV Centennial Oregon
G 13/***** Gary Trent Jr. 6-4/180 Apple Valley, MN Apple Valley Duke
G 14/***** Trae Young 6-1/170 Norman, OK North Oklahoma
C 16/***** Austin Wiley 6-10/240 Birmingham, AL Spain Park Auburn
F 17/***** PJ Washington 6-7/200 Henderson, NV Findley Prep UK
F 18/***** Kris Wilkes 6-7/185 Indianapolis, IN North Central UCLA
C 19/***** Nick Richards 6-10/225 Elizabeth, NJ The Patrick School UK
F 20/***** Brian Bowen 6-7/195 La Porte, IN La Lumiere School Not KU
F 21/***** Jarred Vanderbilt 6-8/200 Houston, TX Victory Prep Kentucky
G 23/***** Quade Green 5-11/155 Philadelphia, PA Neumann-Goretti UK
G 24/***** MJ Walker 6-4/200 Jonesboro, GA Jonesboro Not KU
G 28/**** Nick Weatherspoon 6-1/170 Camden, MS Velma Jackson Miss St
G 30/**** John Petty 6-5/180 Huntsville, AL JO Johnson Not KU
G 31/**** Paul Scruggs 6-3/190 Indianapolis, IN Southport Xavier
G 32/**** Matt Coleman 6-2/170 Mouth of Wilson, VA Oak Hill Acad Not KU
C 33/**** Daniel Gafford 6-10/201 El Dorado, AR El Dorado Arkansas
F 34/**** Cody Riley 6-7/225 Chatsworth, CA Sierra Canyon UCLA
G 36/**** Tremont Waters 5-11/160 West Haven, CT Notre Dame HS Georgetown
G 39/**** Chaundee Brown 6-5/190 Orlando, FL First Academy Wake Forest
F 42/**** Jeremiah Tilmon 6-10/235 East St. Louis, IL E. St. Louis Missouri
G 50/**** Chas.O'Bannon Jr 6-6/200 Las Vegas, NV Bishop Gorman Not KU
G 52/**** Brandon Randolph 6-6/165 Westtown, PA Westtown Arizona
F 54/**** Jericho Sims 6-8/190 Minneapolis, MN Cristo Rey Jesuit Texas
G 58/**** Mitchell Ballock 6-4/175 Eudora, KS Eudora Creighton
F 67/**** Derek Culver 6-10/230 Warren, OH Harding West Virginia
F 68/**** Jordan Tucker 6-7/200 Marietta, GA Wheeler Not KU
C 74/**** Ikey Obiagu 6-11/220 Decatur, GA Greenforest Florida St
F 91/**** Deng Gak 6-9/210 Blairstown, NJ Blair Academy Miami(Fl)
G 94/**** Victor Bailey 6-3/175 Round Rock, TX McNeil Oregon
G 99/**** Thomas Allen 6-1/165 Wolfeboro, NH Brewster Acad Nebraska
F 124/**** Abu Kigab 6-6/180 Napa, CA Prolific Prep Oregon
F 140/*** Kenny Wooten 6-8/210 Las Vegas, NV Trinity Christian Oregon
C --/**** Zach Brown 7-1/256 Miami, FL Calusa Prep legal issues
C ---/---- Chris Sodom 7-3/225 Houston, TX St. Thomas New Mexico
TRANSFERS
F --/-- Shakur Juiston~ 6-7/215 Newark, NJ Hutchinson CC UNLV
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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On the downside, he did not pick KU.
On the plus side:
1. He chose early, letting KU move on early.
2. He did NOT pick Puke or Kenyucky.
SMH.
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As you will have seen in the threads being posted by others (e.g., gorilla and port) this summer, lots going on with KU hoops recruiting, but only Marcus Garrett as a commit so far.
Here is visit data for the recruits that KU really likes (source: Rivals JayhawkSlant)
COMMITTED
Marcus Garrett
Point guard
4 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 37
VERBAL COMMIT
In-Home Visit: 9/14/16
Official Visit: 9/2/16
UNDECIDED
Collin Sexton
Point guard
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 7
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/9/16
Official Visit: 9/30/16
Troy Brown
Shooting guard
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 12
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/12/16
Official Visit: 9/30/16
Trae Young
Point guard
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 14
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/9/16
Official Visit: 10/21/16
P.J. Washington
Power forward
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 17
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/12/16
Official Visit: TBD
Jarred Vanderbilt
Power forward
5 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 21
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/21/16
Official Visit: TBD
Deng Gak
Power forward
4 STARS
Rivals 150 Rank: 91
UNDECIDED
In-Home Visit: 9/14/16
Official Visit: 10/21/16
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Here's a good piece on him:
kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/115732593/
As an aside, Billy Preston is my all-time favorite keyboardist. Love the sound of him playing the Hammond!
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As I'm sure you know, he also famously played keys on Get Back (and other tunes off of Let It Be and Abbey Road for the Beatles), as well as songs by Clapton, the Stones, George Harrison,and others. I loved his solo work as well, and must've played the 45 single "Will It Go Round In Circles" a gazillion times in my youth!
It's good to know I'm not alone in my admiration of Billy's talent. And now we'll get to enjoy the "other" Billy Preston exhibiting his craft at KU!
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Includes signing of PF Billy Preston (Rivals #8 ) and PG Marcus Garrett (#37), and moves prior recruits signed elsewhere or not interested in KU to former recruits listing.
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Here's the link to their KANSAS MBB page -- verbalcommits.com/schools/kansas
The page seems empty when it first loads, but page down and you will see the aforementioned table for KU.
Enjoy and ROCK CHALK!
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www2.kusports.com/news/2016/dec/31/ku-tr...ell-leaving-program/
Best of luck to the young man.
OP updated to reflect this news.
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He will enroll for this spring, sit out through the end of the Fall 2017 semester, then be able to play through AY2020-21 if he stays to use all his eligibility. That's a possible 3.5 years in C&B.
Now we need to get another point guard (hello, Trae Young!) and another big to replace the departing LL (I'm not aware of who that might be at this point), and all 5 known available rides will have been taken.
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The observant reader will note that it has not been updated in the last few days as Sam Cunliffe is not noted as transferring to KANSAS.
We seldom get word on transfers until they are almost, if not actually, a fait accompli (e.g., Cunliffe), but it's a little something to look at as far as opportunities to land another big for next year for go with Udoka, Billy Preston, Carlton Bragg, Mitch Lightfoot and Dwight Coleby.
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CENTERS
Dante Williams , currently >gasp< KState
At present the only center on the list that is still looking. He was a Rivals 3 star out of HS , and comparing ESPN player stats to his Rivals data he has grown two inches (ESPN lists as 7-0) and has put on 30 pounds since his HS days.
POWER FORWARDS
Not really anyone on the list worth looking at from the quick research I did.
The one guy who looked interesting was Austin Nichols, a graduate transfer from Virginia (a 5 star out of HS, #17 in the 2013 Rivals150 who originally signed with Memphis), but UVa dismissed him back in November for violating team rules. Would be surprised if Self tried to get him, despite his decent #s (13 points and 6 rebounds per game in 29 minutes/game his sophomore season at Memphis, 11-3 in his short time at UVa.) KU was checking into him when he was transferring from Memphis to UVa, but I've read some comments to his being a sort of head case, so who knows if Self & Co might be interested now?
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It's rated a toss up between KU and OU, but general impression I am getting from perusing the Slant and 247Sports is that OU has the edge.
A Norman OK kid, he could be the hometown hero and the starting PG from day 1.
Or he could come to KU as Frank's replacement, with every chance to play if he proves he's up to the job, and lead the team to it's next Big 12 title and possibly an NCAA crown.
Word is Dad likes KU, but Mom and Trae favor OU.
If he should choose KU, Self & Co will have one remaining scholarship to fill out of the 5 projected to be available after this spring.
We shall know soon enough.
The OP has been updated for all the current recruit decisions to date and remaining known KU offers. I'll update it again later Thursday (today) upon learning Young's decision.
ROCK CHALK!
(and fingers crossed we get Young, If not, we are still in the running for five star PG Trevon Duval)
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