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8 years 7 months ago #7162
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I wanted my analysis to be as honest as possible so I refrained from posting until I actually watched the game. Game watched. Check. Yeah I know, I should be able to read a calendar but I had to move my schedule around for activities related to the two tax write offs who still share my mailing address. I will get to see todays game though and will be off for the Monday night in April that is really important.
Very relieved and proud at the same time for this team. As I posted earlier MD I thought had the weapons to give KU a difficult time. We did however get a very good game from two players who continue to shine in March. The entire team battled back and really refused to lose. Outstanding effort by the team. Outstanding coaching from HCBS.
What was not outstanding was the coaching from the opposite bench. I love Turgeon and have every belief he will some day be in the running for a certain position in Lawrence KS. But he blew this one. The game plan should have been easy. Dump it to whatever 7 foot behemoth is standing near the basket and shoot lots of free throws. Instead we saw an excellent game from Layman and a grand display of shooting from Trimble and Suliamon. They each only had two assists which should say all you need to know about those two. Carter and Dodd were just OK. Stone is going to be a force and soon. His head was not in it clearly after the second foul. I try to stay away from “bad ref good ref” talk ESPECIALLY when its for the other team, but Stone’s second (pretty clean block on Graham) and fourth (Emmy award nominee Landen Lucas for his flop) were bogus. Yeah I know its “part of the game.” But it’s a bad part. All floppers please report to the soccer pitch. Calling all floppers. I’m no physicist but if he can create enough force to knock Lucas over in one step he needs to declare for the draft today.
Perry had a fabulous game. Manning-esque. Truly, he willed this team to a win. If that mid-range to three point jumper keeps falling I’m not sure what the answer is for him defensively. The word unstoppable comes to mind.
I also thought Wayne had a terrific game. Great matchup with Layman for most of the game. Continue to love the driving to the hoop mentality, with the ace up the sleeve three pointer at the ready. A very sneaky 19 points.
Frank was alright but I have to agree with Raftery, he doesn’t look right. I am beginning to wonder what we will find out about him after the season is over.
By far Devonte’s worst game in some time. I would have thought he had 10 turnovers! The box only says five, but man were they ugly. I have read all the cramping/nutrition stories and I hope he learned a lesson. EAT SOMETHING young man!
OK Konza and HE here you are. Landen had a good game. There I said it. But as the great Sidney Deane said “ The sun even shines on a dog’s *#$ some days.” 14 and 11 is a pretty nice line. I’d like to see it again minus the “oven mitts” this time.
My surprise player of the game was Svi. Devonte is cramping. Wayne needs a blow. Hey Kurt who can we put in? Well coach how about this 6’8” kid who can guard like no one’s business? Only 4 points and 2 boards but he played some good D against Trimble and Suliamon. Wonder if we could use a tall quick guard against a team with basically four guards? Someone like oh say….Villanova? Just a thought.
Overall again I thought it was a great team win. Clearly our coach has built a team. MD has some serious talent but they were not on the same page. Great for the good guys though!! I kept looking at the score in the second half thinking they were getting back in it only to realize we still had a 7-8 point lead. Hoping that tonight we can keep the offensive efficiency up. Both teams get after it on the D side and then make you pay on the other end with points. Thinking as well that Nova’s 3 pt % has to come down at some point in this tournament. It just has to be tonight right?
RKCKJHK!!!
Very relieved and proud at the same time for this team. As I posted earlier MD I thought had the weapons to give KU a difficult time. We did however get a very good game from two players who continue to shine in March. The entire team battled back and really refused to lose. Outstanding effort by the team. Outstanding coaching from HCBS.
What was not outstanding was the coaching from the opposite bench. I love Turgeon and have every belief he will some day be in the running for a certain position in Lawrence KS. But he blew this one. The game plan should have been easy. Dump it to whatever 7 foot behemoth is standing near the basket and shoot lots of free throws. Instead we saw an excellent game from Layman and a grand display of shooting from Trimble and Suliamon. They each only had two assists which should say all you need to know about those two. Carter and Dodd were just OK. Stone is going to be a force and soon. His head was not in it clearly after the second foul. I try to stay away from “bad ref good ref” talk ESPECIALLY when its for the other team, but Stone’s second (pretty clean block on Graham) and fourth (Emmy award nominee Landen Lucas for his flop) were bogus. Yeah I know its “part of the game.” But it’s a bad part. All floppers please report to the soccer pitch. Calling all floppers. I’m no physicist but if he can create enough force to knock Lucas over in one step he needs to declare for the draft today.
Perry had a fabulous game. Manning-esque. Truly, he willed this team to a win. If that mid-range to three point jumper keeps falling I’m not sure what the answer is for him defensively. The word unstoppable comes to mind.
I also thought Wayne had a terrific game. Great matchup with Layman for most of the game. Continue to love the driving to the hoop mentality, with the ace up the sleeve three pointer at the ready. A very sneaky 19 points.
Frank was alright but I have to agree with Raftery, he doesn’t look right. I am beginning to wonder what we will find out about him after the season is over.
By far Devonte’s worst game in some time. I would have thought he had 10 turnovers! The box only says five, but man were they ugly. I have read all the cramping/nutrition stories and I hope he learned a lesson. EAT SOMETHING young man!
OK Konza and HE here you are. Landen had a good game. There I said it. But as the great Sidney Deane said “ The sun even shines on a dog’s *#$ some days.” 14 and 11 is a pretty nice line. I’d like to see it again minus the “oven mitts” this time.
My surprise player of the game was Svi. Devonte is cramping. Wayne needs a blow. Hey Kurt who can we put in? Well coach how about this 6’8” kid who can guard like no one’s business? Only 4 points and 2 boards but he played some good D against Trimble and Suliamon. Wonder if we could use a tall quick guard against a team with basically four guards? Someone like oh say….Villanova? Just a thought.
Overall again I thought it was a great team win. Clearly our coach has built a team. MD has some serious talent but they were not on the same page. Great for the good guys though!! I kept looking at the score in the second half thinking they were getting back in it only to realize we still had a 7-8 point lead. Hoping that tonight we can keep the offensive efficiency up. Both teams get after it on the D side and then make you pay on the other end with points. Thinking as well that Nova’s 3 pt % has to come down at some point in this tournament. It just has to be tonight right?
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8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago #7174
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You were doing okay until you tripped over Lucas yet again.
He's had a solid NCAA tournament, not just one game. He'a averaging a double double in scoring (12 ppg) and rebounding (10.1 rpg) over the first 3 games.
And there are no stats that track how many of his screens have allowed teammates to score, how many of his blockouts on rebounding have allowed teammates the chance to get the rebound, how many shots he forced opponents to alter, how many times the opponent chose to attack away from him instead of at him...
Here's the stats that ARE available.
Those are the #s of a solid big man contributor, especially the FT shooting. Not a superstar, but doggone good.
Neither Diallo nor Bragg, both with more natural talent than LL, have the muscle or the basketball IQ that this team needs in the middle and gets with LL starting in the middle.
The players say as much. The coach says as much. What we have seen on the court these past 17 games says as much.
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Hawknmo wrote: OK Konza and HE here you are. Landen had a good game. There I said it. But as the great Sidney Deane said “ The sun even shines on a dog’s *#$ some days.” 14 and 11 is a pretty nice line. I’d like to see it again minus the “oven mitts” this time.
You were doing okay until you tripped over Lucas yet again.
He's had a solid NCAA tournament, not just one game. He'a averaging a double double in scoring (12 ppg) and rebounding (10.1 rpg) over the first 3 games.
And there are no stats that track how many of his screens have allowed teammates to score, how many of his blockouts on rebounding have allowed teammates the chance to get the rebound, how many shots he forced opponents to alter, how many times the opponent chose to attack away from him instead of at him...
Here's the stats that ARE available.
GAME MIN FG 3PT FT OR DR REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Austin Peay 14 6-7 0-0 4-5 4 4 8 0 0 2 2 2 16
UConn 34 2-4 0-0 2-2 1 11 12 4 1 3 1 2 6
Maryland 29 6-7 0-0 2-2 4 7 11 1 0 1 1 4 14
TOTALS 77 14-18 0 8-9 9 22 31 5 1 6 4 8 36
% or AVG 26 .778 .889 3 7.1 10.1 2.7 - 2 1.1 2.7 12
Those are the #s of a solid big man contributor, especially the FT shooting. Not a superstar, but doggone good.
Neither Diallo nor Bragg, both with more natural talent than LL, have the muscle or the basketball IQ that this team needs in the middle and gets with LL starting in the middle.
The players say as much. The coach says as much. What we have seen on the court these past 17 games says as much.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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Yea,yea,yea, keepin' the faith
Oven mitts? LL was 6 for 7 and rebounded and converted his only miss. 2/2 from the line as well...
Get on the Landen train. It has left the station on the way to castrate some kitties.
Get on the Landen train. It has left the station on the way to castrate some kitties.
Yea,yea,yea, keepin' the faith
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8 years 7 months ago #7200
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Watching Nova game and just saw Lucas ole D a pick and roll. We will never know how Bragg might play because hes on the bench.
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Bragg has been in and has been ineffective.
At the half Lucas has more points than Selden and Ellis combined. Only Frank and DG have more.
At the half Lucas has more points than Selden and Ellis combined. Only Frank and DG have more.
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Sure doesn't seem like it...
And for the record, Landen is one of our few bright spots in the first half...
And for the record, Landen is one of our few bright spots in the first half...
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8 years 7 months ago #7213
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Now you have crossed a line. Sorry I cant get in lock step with you but challenging my loyalty is a bit of a stretch.
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