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8 years 8 months ago #6998 by CorpusJayhawk
Laden - amazing game. He continues to amaze with his smart play. Diamond Stone has more athletic ability and better skills even as a freshman. But Landen is so breaking smart. What a great game by Landen. ℅ MVP with Perry.

Perry - What a stud. He was just a stud from coast to coast. He made some great shots and was unstoppable inside. He is a tough matchup for anyone but a nightmare for Maryland. Beautiful game by Perry. I am loving this young man more all the time.

Wayne - ANother great game. A few brainless TO's here and there but overall he used his strengths perfectly. He wore down Layman and Carter. He is a nightmare matchup for those guys. Very nice game by Wayne. He has had a nice solid tourney.

Frank - Aterrible game and I really mean a pathetic game for Frank. This means he was below average for and average player. He Frank must be hurt because he has been bad this tourney. But he hit some nice shots in the big run. Even a terrible game for Frank is not that bad.

Devont'e' - Worst game of the year. I really donit know what to say about Devonte'. I think he is rounding into the next KU star but not tonight. I don't have the box score pulle up but it seems like he had about 10 TO's. And most were just stupid. He has been emerging as a star but tonight was just not his game. Let's hope it was an anomaly.

Traylor - Bad Traylor tonight.

Bragg - strong on the boards but lost on defense. He will be a star befor he leaves but he needs to learn to play defense. He was manhandled.

Sri - decent defense and solid play as always. I am pretty excited about this guy. He is becoming more and more solid. Not outstanding but solid.

Self - We sucked from the three point line tonight but still dominated. That is because we are fundamentally solid. That wins tourneys. Nice win.

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8 years 8 months ago #7001 by DocBlues
We win by 16 with our 2 guards having sub par games. This team is awesome!!!

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8 years 8 months ago #7002 by mtnMan
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8 years 8 months ago #7003 by NotOstertag
Nailed it. I'd add that overall, we weathered Maryland's punch to our jaw in the first half. Battled back to take a 2 point lead by halftime. Extended it but held at the 7 point margin for quite a while. Weathered our own foul issues while exacerbating theirs. In the last 5 minutes the war of attrition rolled in our favor.

Mentally tough Jayhawks outlasted a very good Maryland team.

My only question: when the Rock Chalk chant started with about 47 seconds left, was Turg quietly singing along? How could any "former" Jayhawk not do so?

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8 years 8 months ago #7007 by sasnak
I was thinking the exact same thing, NotO in regard to Mark- lol

It'll feel better when it stops hurting

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8 years 8 months ago - 8 years 8 months ago #7009 by DrJHawker
That's as bad a night as I remember Frank and Devonte having on the same night. Very good Maryland guards, Frank hurting, Devote's leg cramps all played into it but our guards were the weak link tonight. Hopefully they'll play much better against Villanova. They'll need to. Hopefully Nova can't keep up this totally lights out shooting.
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8 years 8 months ago #7010 by NYCJayhawk
We now know this team has the guts and hard nosed defense to survive the inevitable drought when the 3s just won't fall. This is the game that in other years would absolutely have been a loss, as offensive frustrations derailed the team. I mean, one of our key guards played with no legs at all basically, and the other really didn't get it together until late in the second half!

Villanova won't be an easy game, but I think we're tougher and stronger.

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8 years 8 months ago #7011 by LKF_HAWK
Hawks need to make Villanova play ugly ball they shot lights out today. While KU could not buy a 3, Nova was 10-15 and shot 64%.

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8 years 8 months ago #7012 by Freestate69
Frank has been nicked up quite a bit. He was obviously hobbled tonight. Even so he played some pretty good defense.
Devonte' looked like he was cramping up most of the game.
If the guys can play this well while only at 75%, I'd say they're looking pretty doggone good.
The starting front court was aces tonight. Perry wasn't bothered much at all by Maryland's size. A great workman-like performance.
I loved Wayne's aggressive attitude. It wasn't always pretty, but it was pretty effective.
Landen was great in the paint; rebounding, blocking out, screening -- and that drop step!

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8 years 8 months ago #7017 by Senex68
Why is Devonte getting dehydrated? The training staff knows exactly how to prevent cramping. 2 games in a row is inexplicable.

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8 years 8 months ago #7020 by HawkErrant

Senex68 wrote: Why is Devonte getting dehydrated? The training staff knows exactly how to prevent cramping. 2 games in a row is inexplicable.


Especially when they've had 5 days in between games to get him properly hydrated and electrolyte balanced!

I will say this from my active duty experience -- some people, even though they know exactly what they need to do when it comes to fluids discipline, for some inexplicable reason just don't do it! I've seen too many instances out in the field where soldiers would not properly hydrate themselves, even though they knew what they needed to do. Maybe DG is one of those types of people.

"But I'm not thirsty!" (The #1 excuse used)
"It's 100 degrees and we're in full battle dress. Drink your water, soldier!"

Under the right (read "wrong") conditions, by the time you are thirsty it's often too doggone late to be able to continue to function effectively, especially when you can't take a break to recover.

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8 years 8 months ago - 8 years 8 months ago #7029 by konza63
I have to disagree fervently with the notion that Frank had a "terrible game, a pathetic game." And that he can be lumped in with Devonte in that category tonight.

I saw the game up close and I'll tell you what I witnessed:

* All 3 of our guards had pretty mediocre first halves (as I noted from the game site at halftime). However, in the grand scheme of things, punctuated mostly by that great 2nd half for KU:

* Mason got in Trimble's grill and completely disrupted his game. Frank did a fantastic job sticking on him like glue (yes, with a few exceptions, but Trimble is a superstar and he's going to erupt from time to time). Mason not only stuck on him and made life very difficult, but he executed well through Maryland's screens (designed to give Trimble an extra step on KU defenders into the lane).

* Frank also handled the ball exceptionally well against Trimble's tenacious, very aggressive defense. I didn't realize until seeing it live how aggressive Trimble's defense is. He really bodies his guys (would get called a LOT in the Big 12) and he's all over the ball handler with his arms and hands. Frank did an exceptional job maintaining his composure against that tonight.

Frank had BY FAR the toughest assignment to night, in as much as every scout of Maryland knows that as Trimble goes, so goes Maryland. Well, Frank had him head to head (on defense and offense), and here's how the two wound up on the stat sheet:

Trimble: 5-16 shooting (putrid), 1-7 three-point shooting (horrible), 2 rebounds (lousy), 2 assists (lousy for a PG), 2 turnovers

Mason: 4-11 shooting (much better than Trimble), 1-2 three-point shooting (passive, but still 50%), 5 rebounds (solid), 4 assists (solid), 1 turnover (OUTSTANDING, given Trimble's pressure and tenacity)

Mason didn't light up the scoreboard like Ellis, and his D on Trimble might not have been as noticeable as Landen's schooling of Maryland's bigs on the boards, but he played his buns off tonight and helped decapitate the head of the Maryland attack.

As for Devonte, again, I concur with you that he was just putrid. I know he cramped up, but even before that happened he was not guarding well (losing his man off screens, not closing quickly). Beyond that, he was SO PASSIVE all night on offense (2 field goal attempts? SERIOUSLY???). We couldn't believe it. He passed up multiple open shots... But the real head-scratcher was his mental errors, of which there were several. He had some egregiously bad passes for intercepts, and that one play where he was being very lightly pressured by the sideline and just bounced the ball away directly to a Maryland defender (for a MD fast break) was UNI-like (vs. A&M). What the heck was wrong with him tonight? The good news is that he's been SO good for us down the stretch that I'm definitely just writing this one off and giving him a pass for a completely flaccid, mediocre game. A rare, negative eclipse for him, I guess. I suspect he'll be back on and dialed in for Villanova--he'd better be, because they have some serious guards!

I concur with everything else you wrote, but just had to push back on the Frank assessment. There was a LOT of "trench warfare" stuff going on that might not be so discernible on TV, but I believe the eye test and the stat sheet speak very well of his overall game tonight, despite his continued physical ailments. And I would underscore that shutting down Trimble cannot be overemphasized as a pivotal cog in our victory tonight.

Humbly submitted for further thought.

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1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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8 years 8 months ago #7040 by mtnMan
From LJW: Turns out Graham didn’t eat all day because of sickness and he cramped during his 37-minute stint.

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8 years 8 months ago #7066 by hairyhawk
I think it is impressive he played as well as he did in that condition.

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8 years 8 months ago #7070 by konza63
Devonte has a full day and a half to heal up, get liquids, and hopefully get over whatever he had. Cross your fingers it isn't a viral thing, folks, because that would obviously not be good.

One more game for the lads to buckle down, buck up, and get 'er done. The FF awaits, and that should be motivation aplenty.

PS: I think Frank's game was perhaps the most impressive of any on the court given his ongoing ailments and who he was assigned against. In every timeout and in warmups, you could see the guy walking so gingerly. Then the whistle goes and he's off to do his thing. That job he did on Trimble last night (both ends) had to require a TON of energy and physical output, so let's hope he gets a very nice day of rest today and tomorrow (in the run-up to the late tip) as well.

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