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8 years 8 months ago #6787 by LasJayhawk
www.thenation.com/article/how-the-kansas...lp-stop-the-madness/

Kind of points out why we are better than UNC. :)

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8 years 8 months ago #6789 by konza63
Thanks for posting, LASJayhawk.

It's a very flattering article and an enjoyable read as a KU fan. However, it had an odd twist at the end--pivoting to pointing out that athletes should be at the table (and presumably paid). In that vein, it seemed to bounce around in searching for a central theme or thesis. At first, I thought it was mainly going to be about true academic integrity for athletes, and it was flowing pretty well on that score...but then it wound up with a half-hearted aside about athletes getting paid. Not only that, but the conclusion featured this unfortunate line:

In the name of James Naismith, Dean Smith, and Danny Manning, the school needs to be seen very openly and very publicly as an institution trying to get so-called student-athletes a seat at the table, so the system can be fixed and everyone benefits: not just the cartel known as the NCAA.


Dean Smith? Really? Given that his school and program (UNC) has set a truly new standard for academic fraud, and that it began while on his watch (whether he knew about it or not--and it's his job to know), that closing really threw me for a loop. All the more so given the article's initial focus on academic success and student-athlete integrity at KU.

I really enjoyed the flattering comments about KU (both hoops and academics), but the other aspects left me feeling that the article was kind of thrown together.

Thanks for posting, however. It certainly does a nice job of making us feel proud as Jayhawk alums and fans!

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1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.

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8 years 8 months ago #6790 by porthawk
Obviously we don't know how much truth there is to it, but thought it was interesting nonetheless.

Lisa Aug says:
March 17, 2016 at 1:07 pm
I bleed Kentucky Big Blue and hope Kansas loses in the first round, but Caliperi needs to get his head out of his @$$ and apply the Kansas Way at UK. Instead, he's pushing his smartest player into the draft a year before graduation against the strong wishes of Tyler Ulis' very own mother. Shame on you, Calamari.

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8 years 8 months ago - 8 years 8 months ago #6793 by konza63
That is interesting, Port.

In that same vein, my son has played and trained with a very solid, respected trainer and youth coach (10-18 year-olds) in Northern Virginia. He is African-American, as well-versed in every aspect of basketball as you could ever imagine, and has trained many a player to excel at the middle school, high school, and college level. He also holds no strong D-1 loyalties or animosities, but calls it like he sees it across the board. With that by way of backdrop, I couldn't help but smile (beam, actually) when I saw him post this comment on Facebook after the UK loss to Indiana this weekend:

Kentucky players never get better, However they come in, is exactly the way they leave. I think their coach is overrated as a coach, but is an outstanding recruiter. One man's opinion!!!


He got many "likes" for that one, and every commenter seconded his opinion. I think he's spot on...

FWIW...

“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”

1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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8 years 8 months ago #6796 by Senex68
You know I despise The Squid, but evaluating him on his ability to 'develop' players is simply not relevant or even connected to reality. He did develop his players at UMass, and did at Memphis as well, But at UK, all he does is bring in the best freshmen he can, give them the simplest offensive scheme possible, the 'dribble-drive,' and let them play. He can't 'develop' players because the talented ones leave after one year, the the others that stay are always being recruited over, so he has no incentive to work with them. It's his system, and it works for him and for the UK alums, so he's staying with it. Any young player that chooses UK must know that the only way he'll ever improve in on his own, and that if he stays for more than one year, he's going to be just another 'Cinderella' in the UK family. Just look at the upperclassmen on this year's team and imagine what it must be like to know you're a loser in the eyes of your coach.

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8 years 8 months ago #6799 by Bayhawk
Very cool link LAS, ;)

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8 years 8 months ago - 8 years 8 months ago #6811 by Junkman
I completely agree with you Senex.

It's really not fair to judge Calipari on his ability to develop players at Kentucky as that is not the goal.

However when you continued on to articulate how the strategy likely impacts multi-year players there... Well it made me sad. This is not what college sports should be about. Unfortunately Kentucky is just a microcosim of what American culture seems to have evolved into... Instant gratification and the all mighty dollar.

I'm depressed now. :unsure:

Glad I have the article provided by LAS, which despite some flaws, demonstrates that all is not lost. At least not at KU!!!!

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8 years 8 months ago - 8 years 8 months ago #6813 by konza63

It's really not fair to judge Calipari on his ability to develop players at Kentucky as that is not the goal.


That may not be the Squid's goal, but it is how many outsiders (including the youth coach I cited) choose to judge him as a peer in the coaching profession. And when they apply that criteria, they see a program that just churns people out who (as the coach said) leave the same way they came in.

It's just one guy's take. But in his defense, he has trained hundreds and hundreds of players over the years and tracked countless games and coaches at all levels. Given his pedigree, I happen to think his observation bears some merit. Regardless, it's a pretty sad statement on the UK conveyor belt...er, "program."

“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”

1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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