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KU got the next toughest draw of any 1 seed, with the most quality depth of any region. Six solid, ranked teams in our path (Villanova, Miami, Arizona, Maryland, Iowa, Cal)--and that's not even including the very tough second game out of the block against a Boyle-coached CU (which has no fear of KU and beat Zona a week ago) or a surging UCONN team that is coached by an NC-winning coach and is playing with house money.
It's a very big drop-off after that, IMO, with the other two regions.
Oregon's draw doesn't feature any teams that would scare me if KU had that bracket instead of them, with the exception of OU--and with them only because it's tough to beat them 3 times. But that region is very winnable and wide open--knowing Puke's luck, it will break for them, even though they are not an even a "very" good team this year.
As for the Midwest, WOW. The talking heads want to point out that Sparty got the shaft by not getting a 1 seed, but the Committee literally gave them the sweetest path of any 1 or 2 seed in the entire field. That region is putrid, with the exception of UVA, and I'm just not sold on them at all. That's it! UVA has a very smooth path to get to the Elite 8, unless the defense-incapable Cyclones can somehow figure out how to play on both ends of the court. As for Michigan State? WOW! What a cakewalk they were given.
Here is what KU notionally has to go through to get to the FF: Colorado or UConn; Cal or Maryland (yowza); Zona or Villanova
Now here is what MSU notionally has to go through: Dayton or (barely in) Syracuse; Utah/Seton Hall/Gonzaga; UVA/ISU/Purdue [That's what you call a VERY favorable draw...]
Playing Cal or Maryland as a Sweet 16 game is a really brutal draw for KU. (Cal is loaded with NBA-bound talent, and Cuonzo Martin has beaten Self--at Tennessee--before...meanwhile, Turgeon playing his old school, loaded with talent that can get hot anytime...trust me, I live in DC, they are a scarier draw than you might think.) The only team with a tougher Sweet 16 draw is UNC having to play UK (if they beat IU).
I also have zero clue why they put KU in the South. Every projection we've seen had us in the Midwest. But then they flipped the brackets (at least the ones Corpus had this morning, from Lunardi, which showed the Midwest playing West to get in the NC, and South playing the East...it flipped to the South playing the West and East playing Midwest). That at least spared us having to play Mich State or UNC, which is a blessing. In that sense, Michigan State has a tougher drawing than KU once they get to the FF game (if they get to the FF game, and if chalk holds).
Bottom line for me: UNC and KU were given the toughest path to the FF, Sparty was given the easiest, and Oregon or OU (or whomever comes out of the West) was given the second easiest. But as for the more difficult FF matchup (to get to the NC game), that East-Midwest battle (whomever it features) looks pretty tough--especially if it's Sparty vs. either UNC or UK. Meanwhile, KU would get whomever came out of the West--Oregon, OU, or a team on an upset run (A&M? Puke?).
If KU can get through the gauntlet that is its regional, I like our chances to get to the NC game. But the committee didn't do us any favors, clearly, as the alleged top overall seed. Still, we are a balanced squad playing as well (if not better) than any team in the land, so let's just line 'em up and knock 'em down, one team and one game at a time...
My $.02...
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- konza63
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SOUTH (KU, NOVA): 7 teams in AP Top 25 ... 10 teams in KP Top 25
WEST (ORE, OU): 6 teams in AP Top 25 ... 5 teams in KP Top 25
EAST (UNC, XAVIER): 5 teams in AP Top 25 ... 5 teams in AP Top 25
MIDWEST (UVA, MSU): 5 teams in AP Top 25 ... 5 teams in KP Top 25
This is only one way to slice the cat, of course, but the AP rankings are the composite national consensus as to the top 25 teams in the land, and KenPom is consistently cited as one of the most trusted set of metrics for college hoops.
If you go by this, clearly KU was handed a very tough road, with not just a few tough teams in the way (which is true of the other regions), but the most. The KenPom numbers are particularly staggering and concerning.
The only saving grace is that, when you winnow the AP rankings down to just the Top 10, KU's South bracket only includes two teams (KU itself and Nova). The East is the toughest (most top-heavy) with four top 10 teams (UNC, Xavier, WVU, and IU--UK was 16th prior to this weekend). The West is like the South, with only two top 10 teams (OU and Oregon). And the Midwest also comes in with two (Mich State and UVA).
Somewhat similarly, the South and West only have two top 10 KenPom teams each (KU/Nova and OU/Oregon, respectively), while the East and Midwest have three in the top 10 (UNC/WVU/UK and UVA/MSU/Purdue).
I guess that's the "good news" part of what is definitely a tough KU bracket.
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Footnote: To get the tourney-relevant KenPom top 25 rankings, I removed Louisville and SMU from the list, since they are not eligible to participate.
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As for us not playing a ranked team before the sweet 16, that holds for all 4 regions (and all 1 or 2 seeds), actually. So we got no special break in that department.
Lace 'em up and win 'em, that's all we need to do.
But I still say that is a very tough region, all the way to the FF.
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As much as I wouldn't want to have to face OU 3 times in one year (with us being in the role of OU in '88, having to notch the third win out of three tries), that would be a PHENOMENAL Final Four game. Probably one for the ages.
And as much as I can't stand ThugBall, I'd love for the Mountaineers to ride roughshod over ConTucky and the TarHoles in the East...and for the Clones to take down Sparty in the Midwest! But again, with KU advancing the farthest of them all and cutting down the nets. (Goes without saying, but I'll always say it--LOL)
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Speaking of Miami....if and I personally think it might be a big if...we get past Maryland Im betting we might get to see the Canes. What do we know about them besides they don't miss Frank Haith?
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The one "negative" rap on his Miami teams is inconsistency in closing the deal. They can look like the most elite force on the planet one night and then lay an egg the other. So it really does depend on which team shows up on a given day. The bracket in the bottom half of the South is every bit as loaded as the top half, so they'll do well to even get out of there alive. I really don't even know who to pick in the bottom half, to be honest--a lot of qualified teams there, to be sure. I'd probably go with Zona, then Nova, then Miami to emerge out of the wreckage, but who knows?
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RE this part:
Let’s look at Kenpom.com. Nine schools from the South appear in the top 25 among teams eligible for the tournament (Louisville and SMU are serving tournament bans): Kansas Villanova, Wichita State, Miami, Arizona, California, Maryland, UConn, Vanderbilt. Five from the West are among the top 25: Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas AM, Duke and Baylor.
There are actually 10 tourney-eligible schools (not 9) from KenPom's top 25 that are in the South. Vanderbilt is also in there, at #25, when you take out ineligible Louisville and SMU.
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Maryland has two first round draft picks and offers the prospect of Hawk on Hawk mayhem. I am still not used to them being in the Big Ten(14).
If we were in the Midwest Regional the option was there to wake up Sunday and roll to the United Center.(3.25 hours, familiar venue) Louisville would be more involved .
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