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8 years 8 months ago #5881 by CorpusJayhawk
Part of me admires this West Virginia team because they are super aggressive and they hustle like crazy. But I would never want KU to focus so much on defense and be so mediocre on offense. KU has a more balanced approach. Scott Drew couldn't coach defense if his life depended on it and he just focuses on offense. Shaka focuses on defense and we'll see if Texas fans like his style after he recruits his players. He inherited an offensive based talent and had the Ridley injury and that may have been a positive for Shaka. Kruger is an excellent coach and coaches to his talent which was offensive this year. Weber is a pretty good defensive coach but they have poor flow on offense so they will never be much of a threat. I guess I just like Bill Self style ball better than all others.

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8 years 8 months ago #5886 by konza63
Congrats to them on a solid season. But I can't stand their style, either--mainly because it relies on fouling so frequently and in such a high volume that it forces the refs to lift the bar higher and higher on what constitutes a foul on their end, while not adjusting the calls in the same way for the foe (in this case, KU).

A great case in point was that lowered shoulder/elbow push-off by Williams on Lucas late in the game that was not called. It takes a lot to send a 6'10, 240-pound behemoth flying backwards onto the floor...and the replays were clear that it was a robust elbow-shoulder push off. Yet no call. And that was just the most blatant. Yet on our end, touch call after touch call.

But you know what the beauty of it is? THIS KU team doesn't care--they'll take any foe, any style, even those that drag them down into the gutter, and still come out on top! My hat is off in spades to our guys--such mental toughness and physical prowess! And yes, I'll take Self over all of those other guys--and any coach in the land--every time, hands down.

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8 years 8 months ago #5900 by HawkErrant

konza63 wrote: Congrats to them on a solid season. But I can't stand their style, either--mainly because it relies on fouling so frequently and in such a high volume that it forces the refs to lift the bar higher and higher on what constitutes a foul on their end, while not adjusting the calls in the same way for the foe (in this case, KU).

A great case in point was that lowered shoulder/elbow push-off by Williams on Lucas late in the game that was not called. It takes a lot to send a 6'10, 240-pound behemoth flying backwards onto the floor...and the replays were clear that it was a robust elbow-shoulder push off. Yet no call. And that was just the most blatant. Yet on our end, touch call after touch call.

But you know what the beauty of it is? THIS KU team doesn't care--they'll take any foe, any style, even those that drag them down into the gutter, and still come out on top! My hat is off in spades to our guys--such mental toughness and physical prowess! And yes, I'll take Self over all of those other guys--and any coach in the land--every time, hands down.


I agree with everything you wrote, but want to especially note the sequence you mentioned in the bolded text. I was literally screaming at that no call, especially as it would have been #4 on Williams, and especially after they turned around and called a foul on Williams' teammate for decking Perry a second later that was nowhere near as egregious. End result was Williams. their most potent offensive weapon in the game, got to stay in that much later... Okay, I took a minute to check it out. It amounted to just another 18 seconds, but late in the game that could have been huge. Thankfully he only got 2 more points before fouling out.

I really, really, really don't like Huggins' style of play.

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8 years 8 months ago #5905 by konza63
Agreed completely, mate. And I was up and screaming too. (I don't have too many of those moments anymore, but that was inexcusable)

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8 years 8 months ago #5923 by Senex68
Huggins coaches to his talent. He's a great coach, but a mediocre recruiter, so you get ugly basketball, albeit winning basketball games. Give him his due. He does what he can with the talent he brings in, and he does it as well as anyone. I, too, hate the style of play, but WVU fans love it, and that's what counts for him, and for WVU.

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