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Why do refs let WVU mug the opposition?
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Disgusting.
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konza63 wrote: I don't know myself. But I would hypothesize that's probably the reason why they fare well in the Big 12, but never go to deep in the Dance, where the calls tend to not favor that style of play.
And I would totally agree with you on that point -- which really aggravates me because their flops -- along with our far too many early exits, as well as those of others -- help perpetuate the myth that the conference is really not that tough.
And with the supposed emphasis on making the game run smoother (cleaning up the nasty play), we really should have no reason to be talking about this today -- and yet here we are.
Frustrating!
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I totally agree that they seem to have less success in the tourney. I think this is due to running into teams with good guard play and maybe some officials that call it differently outside of conference play.
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Would someone tell me which one of the three, of which ONES of the three are, in fact, the 'why' in all of this. I've heard every kind of pseudo-explanation, but to this point nobody has actually provided something believable.
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But to be fair, I find something appealing in all three reasons. I like 1 and 3 best because I fear, given the history of the game over the decades, that 2 is probably not off the mark in more cases than we would like to admit. And it only takes one ref on a crew of three to steer the results in a desired direction. And we all know of "that" ref that seems to repeatedly make the darnedest calls -- or no calls, as the case may be.
No matter which one or combination thereof, it's disheartening to contemplate.
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Actually, I remember Self's Illini teams playing much the same way only in the half court. The old Arkansas teams with 40 minutes of hell also come to mind. The Big East used to play this style consistently.
I think having WV play with this style is good for us. It prepares us for teams that we may see come tourney time and makes us man up. Not all games can be pretty, we must be able to win the ugly ones.
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But your response does not address my question, which was why, especially with the renewed emphasis this year on cleaning up the game by calling it properly, are the refs letting them get away with it?
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