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8 years 9 months ago #4608
by CorpusJayhawk
Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
Game No. ------> 28
Date: 2/23/2016
Opponent: Baylor
Location: Waco (Ferrell Center)
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Rnk Player Min %Min (+/-) Min x-Min x(+/-) x-Min Δ
*** ************ **** **** ****** ******* ***** ******* ******* *******
1 Graham 37.9 95% 9 0.238 2.1 -3 -1.417 1.655
2 Ellis 36.6 92% 8 0.219 3 -2 -0.588 0.807
3 Traylor 10.9 27% 8 0.736 29 -2 -0.069 0.805
4 Selden 31.8 79% 5 0.157 8 1 0.122 0.036
5 Mason 36.8 92% 5 0.136 3 1 0.316 -0.180
6 Mykhailiuk 6.7 17% 1 0.150 33 5 0.150 0.000
7 Lucas 29.0 73% 1 0.034 11 5 0.455 -0.421
8 Self 0.0 0% 0 0.000 40 6 0.150 -0.150
9 Vick 0.0 0% 0 0.000 40 6 0.150 -0.150
10 Young 0.0 0% 0 0.000 40 6 0.150 -0.150
11 Manning 0.0 0% 0 0.000 40 6 0.150 -0.150
12 Mickelson 0.0 0% 0 0.000 40 6 0.150 -0.150
13 Diallo 2.2 6% 0 0.000 38 6 0.159 -0.159
14 Greene 6.8 17% -2 -0.293 33 8 0.241 -0.534
15 Bragg 1.3 3% -5 -3.846 39 11 0.284 -4.130
2016 Season Total
Through 28 Games
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Rnk Player Min %Min (+/-) Min x-Min x(+/-) x-Min Δ
*** ************ **** **** ****** ******* ***** ******* ******* *******
1 Mickelson 175 15% 112 0.640 965 276 0.286 0.354
2 Ellis 856 75% 348 0.407 284 40 0.141 0.266
3 Selden 823 72% 340 0.413 317 48 0.151 0.262
4 Mykhailiuk 327 29% 168 0.514 813 220 0.270 0.244
5 Lucas 430 38% 178 0.414 710 210 0.296 0.118
6 Mason 933 82% 314 0.336 207 74 0.358 -0.022
7 Bragg 257 23% 64 0.249 883 324 0.367 -0.118
8 Greene 303 27% 95 0.314 837 293 0.350 -0.036
9 Diallo 174 15% 37 0.212 966 351 0.363 -0.151
10 Vick 77 7% 10 0.129 1063 378 0.356 -0.226
11 Graham 914 80% 255 0.279 226 133 0.588 -0.309
12 Traylor 362 32% 37 0.102 778 351 0.451 -0.349
13 Manning 26 2% -3 -0.116 1114 391 0.351 -0.467
14 Young 18 2% -7 -0.394 1122 395 0.352 -0.746
15 Self 26 2% -8 -0.307 1114 396 0.355 -0.662Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
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8 years 9 months ago #4650
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interesting Svi was only plus 1. I thought he played well. He made some very nice passes into the post against that zone.
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Svi played very nice minutes both on defense and offense. The +/- is ultimately a team stat that is prblematic on an individual basis over a small dataset. So it must always be taken within the brioader context of other assessments. I was very pleased with Svi's minutes yesterday. I was also pleased with Brannen for the most part although he always seems to make a couple boneheaded plays. I was mostly pelased with Jamari as well although he tends to make ill-advised plays also. Our bench was not our problem yesterday.
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Given the combination of Svi's solid play (including on D--he's most definitely light years ahead of Green there) and Selden's long sleepwalk before he came to life, was I the only one a little surprised that Svi didn't see the court much at all (if any) in the 2nd half?
Not a critique, just a question... In the end, it worked out, but for a long stretch there I was curious why he wasn't getting more minutes, since he performed well in the first half.
Not a critique, just a question... In the end, it worked out, but for a long stretch there I was curious why he wasn't getting more minutes, since he performed well in the first half.
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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Selden woke up a bit in the 2nd half defensively. He would jsut go zombie when he crossed the timeline to the offensive side. Then zombie mode went away with about 5 minutes to go in the game and he played well offensively.
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Oh, I know. I was thinking of the first chunk of the second half, though--curious why Svi wasn't in for some of that, given Selden's continued woes.
I'm glad it all worked out in the end (Selden came up huge, alongside Landen, Frank, and Devonte), but it still made me curious at the time it was unfolding.
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Then zombie mode went away with about 5 minutes to go in the game and he played well offensively.
Oh, I know. I was thinking of the first chunk of the second half, though--curious why Svi wasn't in for some of that, given Selden's continued woes.
I'm glad it all worked out in the end (Selden came up huge, alongside Landen, Frank, and Devonte), but it still made me curious at the time it was unfolding.
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
Talk about an instance where this stat just doesn't tell the story.
The guy who held this team together throughout the game was Frank, yet the #s show him with a negative delta.
Selden tried to throw the game away (at least it seemed like that after his third absolutely terrible turnover) before he finally woke up and jumped into his Superman suit to earn his positive delta.
Devonté wasn't even close to his Buddy Hield guarding best, but there he is atop the list. I'll bet between him and Frank that DG had the least amount of shared court time with bad Selden, bad Lucas (who thankfully woke up at the end) and Greene (who was again a huge question mark at best) and the most with Svi and Traylor, who played well in their few minutes on the court.
And what about Scott Drew?
Glad you asked. Help me out here.
Not to take a single, solitary thing away from our guys last night, but didn't he lose this game for the Bears as much as KU won it?
Using his last timeout with over 5 minutes to go in the game?
But perhaps even more importantly, at the end of the game when Lucas and Selden finally woke up, having Rico Gathers on the bench, and watching Lucas wrap up practically every loose rebound?
Did Gathers even get back into the game at the end? I just remember seeing him sitting and the announcers talking about him being on the bench and seemingly seething, apparently about not being in?
I know he's had limited PT lately due to being sick, but he didn't play like he was sick last night. Did something happen that I missed that got him benched? Did I miss him going back in after that shot of him on the bench? I don't think so. And don't get me wrong, I was glad our guys saw the open door and ran through it, but -- I'm just sitting here baffled and shaking my head about Drew.
The guy who held this team together throughout the game was Frank, yet the #s show him with a negative delta.
Selden tried to throw the game away (at least it seemed like that after his third absolutely terrible turnover) before he finally woke up and jumped into his Superman suit to earn his positive delta.
Devonté wasn't even close to his Buddy Hield guarding best, but there he is atop the list. I'll bet between him and Frank that DG had the least amount of shared court time with bad Selden, bad Lucas (who thankfully woke up at the end) and Greene (who was again a huge question mark at best) and the most with Svi and Traylor, who played well in their few minutes on the court.
And what about Scott Drew?
Glad you asked. Help me out here.
Not to take a single, solitary thing away from our guys last night, but didn't he lose this game for the Bears as much as KU won it?
Using his last timeout with over 5 minutes to go in the game?
But perhaps even more importantly, at the end of the game when Lucas and Selden finally woke up, having Rico Gathers on the bench, and watching Lucas wrap up practically every loose rebound?
Did Gathers even get back into the game at the end? I just remember seeing him sitting and the announcers talking about him being on the bench and seemingly seething, apparently about not being in?
I know he's had limited PT lately due to being sick, but he didn't play like he was sick last night. Did something happen that I missed that got him benched? Did I miss him going back in after that shot of him on the bench? I don't think so. And don't get me wrong, I was glad our guys saw the open door and ran through it, but -- I'm just sitting here baffled and shaking my head about Drew.
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“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
The Gathers thing was indeed baffling. He was really getting after it, and was his usual rebounding machine all night. He was obviously very miffed at being taken out (I think that was it, over the foul call), and it was stunning that he never went back in during our huge run.
KU won the game and forced its will, but good ole Drew (aka Alfred E. Neuman) certainly didn't undercut that nice comeback!
(Oh, how I wish I could quickly photoshop this--inserting "Scott Drew"--but, alas, no such time...)
KU won the game and forced its will, but good ole Drew (aka Alfred E. Neuman) certainly didn't undercut that nice comeback!
(Oh, how I wish I could quickly photoshop this--inserting "Scott Drew"--but, alas, no such time...)
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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