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- DocHawk
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Following is the number of seniors for each team who are starters or high level subs (not counting Forte at OSU and Long at ISU who might qualify for medical redshirts. I assume no one in the league leaves early.
KU 2 Ellis and Traylor
BU 3 Gathers, Medford, Prince
ISU 3 McKay, Nader, Niang (maybe Long)
KSU 2 Edwards, Hurt
OU 4 Hield, Spangler, Cousins, Walker
OSU 2 Newberry, Olivier (maybe Forte)
TCU 1 Abron
TU 5 Felix, Lammert, Ibeh, Holland, Ridley
TT 2 Williams, Gotcher
WV 2 Holton, Paige
To put the loses in perspective, here are the % points and rebounds lost
KU 23% of points and 24% of rebounds Both averaged 23.5%
BU 47% of points and 47% of rebounds Both averaged 47%
ISU 54% of points and 56% of rebounds Both averaged 55% (Long not included)
KSU 27% of points and 28% of rebounds Both averaged 27.5%
OU 64% of points and 54% of rebounds Both averaged 59%
OSU 28% of points and 22% of rebounds Both averaged 25% (Forte not included)
TCU 7% of points and 11% of rebounds Both averaged 9%
TU 34% of points and 42% of rebounds Both averaged 38% (Ridley not included)
TT 30% of points and 20% of rebounds Both averaged 25%
WV 29% of points and 28% of rebounds Both averaged 28.5%
Two things stand out. 1. We lose less than anybody (except TCU which had very little to lose) 2. There could be a major changing of the guard next year with perennial also rans like KSU, OSU and Texas Tech perhaps being our major threats along with West Virginia. Everything is changing except the Jayhawks being in position to win #13.
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Don't worry about the mules, just load the wagon!!
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F Perry Ellis (S)
G Evan Manning (W)
C Hunter Mickelson (S)
F Jamari Traylor (S)
NBA EARLY ENTRANTS 2016
None known yet; could include Diallo, Selden
(based on mock draft projections as of 2015-02-20, IMO both will end up telling us "I'll be back!")
RETURNING PLAYERS and AY2016-17 STATUS (Class, Scholarship or Walk-on)
SENIORS
F Brannen Greene (S)
F Landen Lucas* (S)
G Frank Mason III (S)
G Wayne Selden Jr. (S)
G Tyler Self* (W)
JUNIORS
F Dwight Coleby* (S) transfered from Ole Miss 2015, sitting out 2015-16, then tore ACL 2015-09-25**
G Devonté Graham (S)
G Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (S)
F Clay Young* (W)
SOPHOMORES
G Lagerald Vick (S)
F Cheick Diallo (S)
F Carlton Bragg (S)
RECRUITS COMING IN
(the following uses Rivals info)
#27 Udoka Azubuike (C) 5 star
#117 Mitch Lightfoot (PF) 3 star
Plus KU is still in the mix for these recruits (at least 1 "ride" is available; more only if we incur other losses)
#1 Josh Jackson (SG) 5 star
#9 Rawle Alkins (SG) 5 star
#16 Marques Bolden (C) 5 star
#20 Jarrett Allen (F) 5 star
#112 Deshawn Corprew (SG) 4 star
PROJECTED STARTING LINEUP AT START OF SEASON
1 Mason SR
2 Graham JR
3 Selden SR
4 Bragg SO
5 Lucas SR
Losing Perry will hurt, but that's the nice thing about freshmen and sophomores -- they mature into sophomores and juniors!
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I'm going to bet that we're a preseason top 5 team with who we've got.
"When I was a freshman, I remember Coach Naismith telling us how important it was to play good defense." - Mitch Lightfoot
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Hudy will have a field day with those guys. Imagine Diallo as a shot blocker, AND with some beef on him...scary.
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Talk about a roster brimming with upside (and proven experience)!
If Jackson were assured Selden were leaving, you could almost see him moving in there, as a Wiggins-like big wing. (Jackson is 6'8, and generally "tagged" as a SF/wing) Supposedly he's very explosive around the rim, on both ends...but is still very much developing his perimeter game.
Given that, if Selden returned, we snare the kid, and Self decides he's better off playing the "4," the question is what happens between him and Bragg? And the broader question then becomes: would getting Jackson give us too many good players for too few slots?
I could almost hear Self's response as I typed that last question. "You can never have too much talent." As in, this is always a good problem to have.
But I'm just curious. Then again, it's all pure speculation, since we don't yet know who will stay and go. (The depth of our tourney run and the individual performances therein can still influence that question too, I submit--particularly for the likes of Selden)
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Everything rings true to me. I was just accounting for the possibility of a KU championship run in which Selden happens to hit the jackpot and go off. Admittedly, that's not a high-probability scenario to bet the house on, but if it did happen it would constitute some serious exposure that I thought could conceivably move him off the "high 2nd round" line to a "low 1st round line."
Maybe I'm wrong even about that scenario (if it were to come to fruition), but I recall those recent UK and UNC teams where the entire starting 5 (or close to it?) caught the benefit of momentum and League exposure after winning it all. (Not referring to our starting 5, but just the "wind tunnel" effect for a guy like Selden)
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[/i]Would you wager anything on a 20 point and 5 assist game from him tomorrow night?
Definitely not. But it also wouldn't surprise me at all if he did. And therein lies the enigma that is Wayne Selden...
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