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Game No. ------> 27
Date: 2/20/2016
Opponent: Kansas St.
Location: Manhattan (Bramlage Coliseum)
(+/-) x-(+/-)
per per
Rnk Player Min %Min (+/-) Min x-Min x(+/-) x-Min Δ
*** ************ **** **** ****** ******* ***** ******* ******* *******
1 Lucas 14.4 36% 14 0.973 25.6 -5 -0.195 1.169
2 Mykhailiuk 19.2 48% 13 0.678 21 -4 -0.192 0.870
3 Mason 33.8 85% 11 0.325 6 -2 -0.323 0.648
4 Selden 32.8 82% 11 0.335 7 -2 -0.279 0.614
5 Traylor 15.7 39% 7 0.447 24 2 0.082 0.365
6 Ellis 29.7 74% 8 0.270 10 1 0.097 0.173
7 Self 0.0 0% 0 0.000 40 9 0.225 -0.225
8 Vick 0.0 0% 0 0.000 40 9 0.225 -0.225
9 Young 0.0 0% 0 0.000 40 9 0.225 -0.225
10 Manning 0.0 0% 0 0.000 40 9 0.225 -0.225
11 Greene 5.0 13% -2 -0.397 35 11 0.315 -0.712
12 Graham 31.1 78% 2 0.064 9 7 0.789 -0.725
13 Bragg 11.5 29% -9 -0.781 28 18 0.632 -1.413
14 Mickelson 4.8 12% -6 -1.254 35 15 0.426 -1.680
15 Diallo 2.0 5% -4 -1.983 38 13 0.342 -2.326
2016 Season Total
Through 27 Games
(+/-) x-(+/-)
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Rnk Player Min %Min (+/-) Min x-Min x(+/-) x-Min Δ
*** ************ **** **** ****** ******* ***** ******* ******* *******
1 Mickelson 175 16% 112 0.640 925 270 0.292 0.349
2 Ellis 819 74% 340 0.415 281 42 0.149 0.266
3 Selden 791 72% 335 0.424 309 47 0.152 0.272
4 Mykhailiuk 320 29% 167 0.522 780 215 0.276 0.246
5 Lucas 401 36% 177 0.441 699 205 0.293 0.148
6 Mason 897 82% 309 0.345 203 73 0.359 -0.014
7 Bragg 256 23% 69 0.270 844 313 0.371 -0.101
8 Greene 296 27% 97 0.328 804 285 0.354 -0.027
9 Diallo 172 16% 37 0.215 928 345 0.372 -0.157
10 Vick 77 7% 10 0.129 1023 372 0.364 -0.235
11 Graham 876 80% 246 0.281 224 136 0.607 -0.326
12 Traylor 351 32% 29 0.083 749 353 0.471 -0.388
13 Manning 26 2% -3 -0.116 1074 385 0.358 -0.474
14 Young 18 2% -7 -0.394 1082 389 0.359 -0.753
15 Self 26 2% -8 -0.307 1074 390 0.363 -0.670
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For the "+" guys:
* Devonte actually came on late in a big way, such that the "eye test" would bump him up just a bit in terms of his significance to the win. He was just "neutral" for most of the game--not doing anything scoring-wise, but running decent point and playing good D. But then he really came up big late with that key 2-pointer and the free throws.
* Lucas was just huge, and we really suffered when he was out. The guy has become a versatile rebounding machine, and he is now scoring very effectively when near the rim as well. He contributed to a beautiful pick and roll on one point and finished like a man. The kid has clearly turned a corner, and we're all the better for it.
* Svi was the man in the first half with those killer threes...and UNLIKE GREENE, HE CAN PLAY DEFENSE! I watched him like a hawk on the defensive end, and it was textbook man to man. Just outstanding, and 180 different from Brannen. He came up huge, despite the missed shots in the 2nd half, and really was a key cog in this win.
* Ellis going down to injury also really undercut us (no-brainer there). He was having a really nice game.
* Frank was a liability for the opening part of the game (including on defense), but man, did he turn it on. He was Sherron-like and Tyshawn-like for big spurts, and is arguably the toughest little dude to wear a KU uniform. I can't think of any that were tougher. (And that behind the back driving layup in transition was a highlight play for the ages)
* Selden played well. He was missing some threes, but did other important things, which is precisely what we needed him to do. He contributed great energy and made some big plays.
* Jamari played a really, really solid game. Yes, he had a turnover or two, but he really brought it tonight. And that thunderous dunk was a very big play. Who doesn't think that he was thinking about that T-boning fan from last year when he about ripped the rim off?
As for the "-" guys:
* Bragg was a complete train wreck, and single-handedly helped the Grapes get back in it with 3 straight bad moves in successive offensive-defensive possessions. He also got pushed around under the bucket, and took a very ill-advised long 2 shot with only a few seconds off the shot clock when we needed to be running clock.
* Diallo was putrid. Still not getting it. Based on his and Bragg's performance, and coupled with the performance of Lucas (and Traylor), it's patently obvious now that Self has been making the right call all along in going with the seasoned guys for the bulk of minutes. This was a big game that we needed to win, and experienced players were key. And when said experienced players got in foul trouble (or hurt), we suffered big-time with our bench options in the 4/5 spots.
* Mickelson did little to nothing to impact the game in the time he was in. He didn't kill us, but didn't certainly didn't help us. And the fact that he was -6 when in tells you that he probably did more than not help us (in the negative) since we didn't execute well at all when he was out there.
* Greene deserved worse than a -2 with the eye test. He passed up key 3s, turned the ball over on travels and what-not, and played his usual stand-up, poor lateral mobility D. He was single-handedly responsible for at least 3 help D breakdowns caused by him losing his man. I guess the pressure of going to Bramlage after Dunk-gate got to him?
My take on the +/- numbers. Curious if others saw it the same way.
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That stop was crucial, IMHO.
(I hope I didn't confuse Mickelson with Svi--Did I?)
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Pretty strong stuff Konza. HCBS might not agree with you 100%. "Of Mickelson’s play, Self said: “We say it all the time, ‘You can’t fish and miss.’ If he missed it’s a layup or dunk. Fortunately Hunter was able to hit it off him. It may have been the biggest defensive play of the game.”
Stats usually don't lie. But ocassionally they can "say" what you want them to say in order to back up an opinion. I believe in this case the "eye test" might tell a different story than the stat line.
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[/i]Corpus: Mickelson had a really nice defensive play. But overall the Jayhawks were out of sync when he was in the game.
Keegan: The biggest reason that the same K-State team that trailed by 10 points at halftime on the way to losing to Kansas, 72-63, is quite easy to identify. Fourth-year Kansas junior post man Landen Lucas played 10 minutes in the first half and K-State wide bodies D.J. Johnson and Stephen Hurt combined for five points. Lucas played three second-half minutes before fouling out and K-State’s two hulks combined for 19 points.
Translation: it was a pretty big fall-off (on both ends) once Lucas left the floor (regardless of who we were shuffling out there). I know you personally don't buy that, because you still don't believe in Landen, but that's for you to sort out (or not). As for Hunter, I'm glad that he finally got some minutes from Coach Self, though it took LL and JT fouling out (and Ellis getting knocked out) to get him on the floor. At future points Hunter will be needed, as will others. I hope he keeps his head up high and remains ready to contribute at a moment's notice. All hands on deck, as it were...
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