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Anything pertaining to basketball: college, pro, HS, recruiting, TV coverage
Anything pertaining to basketball: college, pro, HS, recruiting, TV coverage
1 game to go in the Big 12 season
8 years 9 months ago - 8 years 9 months ago #4391
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT:
KU's MAGIC #: 2 wins guarantees at least a share of its 12th straight Big 12 title
KU can lose 1 of its last 4 games and still have #12 all to itself.
BU, OU and WVU all have a shot at a share of the title should KU lose 2.
Everyone has 4 games left, all 2 home and 2 away.
Regarding the leaders --
KU plays at Baylor on Tuesday, hosts Tech on Saturday, visits Austin on Big Monday Feb 29, and then hosts ISU on Saturday March 5 for the Kansas season finale Senior Night (DAY?) game on ESPN2 (time still TBA).
BU, OU and WVU are now 2 games back.
But BU has to play 3 of its last 4 against OU in Norman and KU and WVU at home, so the odds are against them getting a share.
OU and WVU each have no more head-to-heads with each other (or KU), so their weaker remaining schedules give them the best chance of catching KU.
ISU and tu are 3 games back and practically if not mathematically out of the title race.
REMAINING ROAD GAMES FOR THE TOP 6 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - BU, tu; projected loses: 1 (tu. Hope I am wrong about tu as I was about OU!)
BU - TCU, OU; projected losses: 1 (OU)
OU - tu, TCU; projected losses: 0 (After OU @WVU and BU @tu today, I think OU wins out)
WV - OSU, BU; projected losses: 0
ISU - WV, KU; projected losses: 2
tu - KSU, OSU; projected losses: 1 KSU
REMAINING HOME GAMES FOR THE TOP 6 ENTERING THE WEEK
KU - TT, ISU; projected losses: 0 (where's that fingers crossed icon?
)
BU - KU, WV; projected losses: 2 (KU, WV)
OU - OSU, BU; projected losses: 0
WV - ISU, TT; projected losses: 0 (and OU proved me wrong Saturday, so maybe one of these guys will, too!)
ISU - KSU, OSU; projected losses: 0
tu - KU, OU; projected losses: 2 (what a difference a weekend can make!)
ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK KU!
KU's MAGIC #: 2 wins guarantees at least a share of its 12th straight Big 12 title
KU can lose 1 of its last 4 games and still have #12 all to itself.
BU, OU and WVU all have a shot at a share of the title should KU lose 2.
BIG 12 STANDINGS UPDATED THRU SATURDAY 2016-02-20 10:30 PM CST
BIG 12 OVERALL
AP TEAM W-L GB PCT W-L PCT STRK
Big 12 W-L GB PCT W-L PCT STRK
2 Kansas 11-3 -- .786 23-4 .852 W7
3 Oklahoma 9-5 2 .643 21-5 .808 W1
25 Baylor 9-5 2 .643 20-7 .741 W2
10 W Virginia 9-5 2 .643 20-7 .741 L2
13 Iowa State 8-6 3 .571 19-8 .704 W1
24 Texas 8-6 3 .571 17-10 .630 L1
Texas Tech 7-7 4 .500 17-9 .654 W4
Kansas St 4-10 7 .286 15-12 .556 L1
Oklahoma St 3-11 8 .214 12-15 .444 L2
TCU 2-12 9 .143 11-16 .407 L3Regarding the leaders --
KU plays at Baylor on Tuesday, hosts Tech on Saturday, visits Austin on Big Monday Feb 29, and then hosts ISU on Saturday March 5 for the Kansas season finale Senior Night (DAY?) game on ESPN2 (time still TBA).
BU, OU and WVU are now 2 games back.
But BU has to play 3 of its last 4 against OU in Norman and KU and WVU at home, so the odds are against them getting a share.
OU and WVU each have no more head-to-heads with each other (or KU), so their weaker remaining schedules give them the best chance of catching KU.
ISU and tu are 3 games back and practically if not mathematically out of the title race.
REMAINING ROAD GAMES FOR THE TOP 6 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - BU, tu; projected loses: 1 (tu. Hope I am wrong about tu as I was about OU!)
BU - TCU, OU; projected losses: 1 (OU)
OU - tu, TCU; projected losses: 0 (After OU @WVU and BU @tu today, I think OU wins out)
WV - OSU, BU; projected losses: 0
ISU - WV, KU; projected losses: 2
tu - KSU, OSU; projected losses: 1 KSU
REMAINING HOME GAMES FOR THE TOP 6 ENTERING THE WEEK
KU - TT, ISU; projected losses: 0 (where's that fingers crossed icon?
)BU - KU, WV; projected losses: 2 (KU, WV)
OU - OSU, BU; projected losses: 0
WV - ISU, TT; projected losses: 0 (and OU proved me wrong Saturday, so maybe one of these guys will, too!)
ISU - KSU, OSU; projected losses: 0
tu - KU, OU; projected losses: 2 (what a difference a weekend can make!)
ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK KU!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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8 years 9 months ago #4487
by HawkErrant
At 14-3, Baylor has the worst home court record of any still in the chase, and tu is 13-2 in Erwin. And while we may be a little exhausted after the KState game, you can bet the same is true for the Bears after taking down tu in Erwin. Time to eat some bahr!
What am I saying?
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
konza63 wrote:
[/i]NotO wrote:If we win tomorrow, the magic number is 1, and we can clinch at home on Saturday.
Would that be sweet, or what? Taking down TT and being able to already cut down some nets or celebrate the crown with two games yet to go (including Senior Day). In the toughest league in America, no less!
I know Baylor looked great on Saturday, securing the only win that a Big 12 team has achieved on UT's home court this year. And doing it in blowout fashion. I know, too, that we had to invest a lot of mental and physical energy in the K-State game. But for whatever reason, I think we're going to bring a solid game in Waco. Hopefully it will be enough and we'll get that "Saturday prize" scenario. Then we can all relax and start dreaming about the tourney! (Knowing, of course, that we still have a couple games to play and then the Big 12 tourney--which I personally wish we didn't have to play, in some ways...)
At 14-3, Baylor has the worst home court record of any still in the chase, and tu is 13-2 in Erwin. And while we may be a little exhausted after the KState game, you can bet the same is true for the Bears after taking down tu in Erwin. Time to eat some bahr!
What am I saying?
Warning: Spoiler!
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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8 years 9 months ago #4491
by konza63
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
LOL. I'd say we have more than a chance if this is our comparator:
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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8 years 9 months ago #4493
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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8 years 9 months ago #4627
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT:
KU's MAGIC #: 1 win guarantees at least a share of its 12th straight Big 12 title
If KU wins 2, #12 is all theirs!
OU and WVU still have a shot at a share of the title should KU lose 2.
After Wednesday night, everyone will have 3 games left, with WVU and most likely OU tied 2 games back.
At best, KU ends the regular season on a sweep.
At second best for KU, KU wins just 1 more and ends up in a tie with WVU and possibly OU.
At worst, the wheels fall off and KU gets passed by OU or WVU.
Please make all the appropriate sacrifices to the basketball gods that are customary in your household to ensure the worst does not happen.
NEXT UP FOR OUR JAYHAWKS -- The Red Raiders come to Lawrence (11:00 AM CST game) to get lost in the Phog, KU earning a least a share of its 12th straight Big 12 regular season title! Here's to our Jayhawks ensuring that event happens!
KU has one road game left, at tu this coming Monday night, then finishes against ISU on Senior Day at 3:00 PM Saturday, 5 March.
ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK KU!
REMAINING ROAD GAMES FOR THE TOP 5 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - tu; projected losses: 0 Keep on trucking, Jayhawks!
WV - OSU, BU; projected losses: 0
OU - tu, TCU; projected losses: 0 (I've changed my mind about the tu game, OU is back on track)
BU - TCU, OU; projected losses: 1 (OU)
tu - OSU; projected losses: 0
REMAINING HOME GAMES FOR THE TOP 5 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - TT, ISU; projected losses: 0 (guys, please don't prove me wrong!
)
WV - TT; projected losses: 0
OU - BU; projected losses: 0
BU - WV; projected losses: 1
tu - OU, KU; projected losses: 2 (OU and KU are impressing as the season closes out)
KU's MAGIC #: 1 win guarantees at least a share of its 12th straight Big 12 title
If KU wins 2, #12 is all theirs!
OU and WVU still have a shot at a share of the title should KU lose 2.
BIG 12 STANDINGS UPDATED THRU TUESDAY 2016-02-23 10:15 PM
AP School Big 12 GB Pct. Overall Pct. Streak COMMENTS
2 Kansas 12-3 -- .800 24-4 .857 W8
14 West Virginia 10-5 2 .667 21-7 .750 W1
3 Oklahoma 9-5 2.5 .643 21-5 .808 W1 host OSU Wednesday
19 Baylor 9-6 3 .600 20-8 .714 L1
25 Texas 9-6 3 .600 18-10 .643 W1
------------- MATHEMATICALLY OUT OF TITLE CONTENTION -------------------------------------
17 Iowa State 8-7 4 .533 19-9 .679 L1
Texas Tech 8-7 4 .533 18-9 .667 W5
Kansas State 4-11 8 .267 15-13 .536 L2
Oklahoma State 3-11 8.5 .214 12-15 .444 L2 @OU Wednesday
TCU 2-13 10 .133 11-17 .393 L4At best, KU ends the regular season on a sweep.
At second best for KU, KU wins just 1 more and ends up in a tie with WVU and possibly OU.
At worst, the wheels fall off and KU gets passed by OU or WVU.
Please make all the appropriate sacrifices to the basketball gods that are customary in your household to ensure the worst does not happen.
NEXT UP FOR OUR JAYHAWKS -- The Red Raiders come to Lawrence (11:00 AM CST game) to get lost in the Phog, KU earning a least a share of its 12th straight Big 12 regular season title! Here's to our Jayhawks ensuring that event happens!
KU has one road game left, at tu this coming Monday night, then finishes against ISU on Senior Day at 3:00 PM Saturday, 5 March.
ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK KU!
REMAINING ROAD GAMES FOR THE TOP 5 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - tu; projected losses: 0 Keep on trucking, Jayhawks!
WV - OSU, BU; projected losses: 0
OU - tu, TCU; projected losses: 0 (I've changed my mind about the tu game, OU is back on track)
BU - TCU, OU; projected losses: 1 (OU)
tu - OSU; projected losses: 0
REMAINING HOME GAMES FOR THE TOP 5 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - TT, ISU; projected losses: 0 (guys, please don't prove me wrong!
)WV - TT; projected losses: 0
OU - BU; projected losses: 0
BU - WV; projected losses: 1
tu - OU, KU; projected losses: 2 (OU and KU are impressing as the season closes out)
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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8 years 9 months ago #4677
by Wheatstate Gal
Agree, Brother Bay!
Or we can save the ceremony until Sr night after the victory over ISU.
A celebration best "had" at home...in OUR house.
Personally, I would find it horribly classless to cut nets in TU's arena after our victory there.
Didn't Billy Tubbs cut nets in "the Allen Fieldhouse" once? Didn't we all go apoplectic?
I don't want KU and HCBS ever mentioned in the same breath as Billy Tubbs.
"miss manners"
Or we can save the ceremony until Sr night after the victory over ISU.
A celebration best "had" at home...in OUR house.
Personally, I would find it horribly classless to cut nets in TU's arena after our victory there.
Didn't Billy Tubbs cut nets in "the Allen Fieldhouse" once? Didn't we all go apoplectic?
I don't want KU and HCBS ever mentioned in the same breath as Billy Tubbs.
"miss manners"
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8 years 9 months ago - 8 years 9 months ago #4684
by konza63
The Scoundrel otherwise known as Billy Tubbs most certainly did. And yes, that was the reaction. 
No one (save for Norm, I submit) loved to jab his stick into the Jayhawk hornet nest more than The Billy... (But Norm did it with a wry semi-dignity, while The Billy was just an uncivil rube)
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
[/i]Didn't Billy Tubbs cut nets in "the Allen Fieldhouse" once? Didn't we all go apoplectic?
The Scoundrel otherwise known as Billy Tubbs most certainly did. And yes, that was the reaction.
No one (save for Norm, I submit) loved to jab his stick into the Jayhawk hornet nest more than The Billy... (But Norm did it with a wry semi-dignity, while The Billy was just an uncivil rube)
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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8 years 9 months ago #4695
by konza63
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
Spot on. He took great pleasure in knowing that we despised him. And I can now look back and semi-laugh at his antics. But man, oh man, did I have unbounded wrath for that guy back in the day--in part because OU was so darn good, so brash, so athletic, and such a thorn in our side.
But ultimately, these cats (the good guys) got the last laugh:
And interestingly enough, you can argue that Tubbs and OU never were quite the same behemoth after that shocker of a game for all the marbles down in the West Bottoms of KC...
But ultimately, these cats (the good guys) got the last laugh:
And interestingly enough, you can argue that Tubbs and OU never were quite the same behemoth after that shocker of a game for all the marbles down in the West Bottoms of KC...
“With kindest regards to Dr. Forrest C. Allen, the father of basketball coaching, from the father of the game.”
1936 inscription on the portrait of Dr. Naismith, displayed above Phog Allen's office desk at KU.
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8 years 9 months ago #4743
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
SATURDAY FEB 27 BIG 12 SCHEDULE
Source: www.big12sports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_...D=13134&SPSID=106112It's too bad that Tech in AFH is the 11:00 AM game and not the 7:00pm game. If that were the case, the guys could go into the game knowing whether they were playing to ensure at least a tie, or playing for all the marbles for themselves.
It would also render this discussion moot, I would think. I know *I* would cut them after a win if we had already backed into at least a tie thanks to the other guys losing earlier in the day.
Source: www.big12sports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_...D=13134&SPSID=106112
DATE HOME VISITOR LOCATION TIME TV
Sat, Feb 27 Kansas Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. 11:00 a.m. ESPN
Sat, Feb 27 Texas Oklahoma Austin, Texas 1:00 p.m. CBS
Sat, Feb 27 Oklahoma St West Virginia Stillwater, Okla. 5:00 p.m. ESPNU
Sat, Feb 27 Iowa State Kansas State Ames, Iowa 5:00 p.m. ESPN2
Sat, Feb 27 TCU Baylor Fort Worth, Texas 7:00 p.m. ESPNUIt would also render this discussion moot, I would think.
I know *I* would cut them after a win if we had already backed into at least a tie thanks to the other guys losing earlier in the day. "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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8 years 8 months ago #4993
by HawkErrant
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT:
KU's MAGIC #: 0, but another win guarantees the12th straight Big 12 title belongs all to KU and no one else!
After Saturday night, everyone has 2 games left, with WVU 2 games back and the only chance to tie KANSAS for the title.
At best, KU ends the regular season all alone in first, either with a sweep of tu and ISU (please! and thank you!) or splitting the last two games.
At worst, the wheels fall off and WVU ties KU for the title. (Can I say "Go Baylor!?!")
Please make all the appropriate sacrifices to the basketball gods that are customary in your household to ensure the worst does not happen.
NEXT UP FOR OUR JAYHAWKS -- KU travels to The Erwin Center! tu has lost there twice this year already, time to cue up L3.
KU finishes against ISU on Senior Day at 3:00 PM Saturday, 5 March.
ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK KU!
REMAINING ROAD GAMES FOR THE TOP 2 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - tu; projected losses: 0 Keep on trucking, Jayhawks!
WV - BU; projected losses: 0
REMAINING HOME GAMES FOR THE TOP 2 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - ISU; projected losses: 0 (guys, please don't prove me wrong! )
WV - TT; projected losses: 0
KU's MAGIC #: 0, but another win guarantees the12th straight Big 12 title belongs all to KU and no one else!
BIG 12 STANDINGS UPDATED THRU TUESDAY 2016-02-23 10:15 PM
AP School Big 12 GB Pct. Overall Pct. Streak COMMENTS
2 Kansas 13-3 -- .813 25-4 .862 W9
14 WVU 11-5 2 .688 22-7 .759 W2
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3 Oklahoma 10-6 3 .625 22-6 .786 L1
19 Baylor 10-6 3 .625 21-8 .724 W1
25 Texas 10-6 3 .625 19-10 .655 W2
17 Iowa State 9-7 4 .563 20-9 .690 W1
Texas Tech 8-8 5 .500 18-10 .643 L1
Kansas St 4-12 9 .250 15-14 .517 L3
Oklahoma St 3-13 10 .188 12-17 .414 L4
TCU 2-14 11 .125 11-18 .379 L5At best, KU ends the regular season all alone in first, either with a sweep of tu and ISU (please! and thank you!) or splitting the last two games.
At worst, the wheels fall off and WVU ties KU for the title. (Can I say "Go Baylor!?!")
Please make all the appropriate sacrifices to the basketball gods that are customary in your household to ensure the worst does not happen.
NEXT UP FOR OUR JAYHAWKS -- KU travels to The Erwin Center! tu has lost there twice this year already, time to cue up L3.
KU finishes against ISU on Senior Day at 3:00 PM Saturday, 5 March.
ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK KU!
REMAINING ROAD GAMES FOR THE TOP 2 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - tu; projected losses: 0 Keep on trucking, Jayhawks!
WV - BU; projected losses: 0
REMAINING HOME GAMES FOR THE TOP 2 ENTERING THE WEEKEND
KU - ISU; projected losses: 0 (guys, please don't prove me wrong!
)WV - TT; projected losses: 0
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain "Innocents Abroad"
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